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potential ladder change in 2010?

brokendigit

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It's not the best idea I've heard, but it's far from the worst.

My main issue with it would be: the NRL can't even schedule an even Home & Away season.

For those bagging the idea - in a small (but crucial) way, it's already in place - for those teams who finish equal at the end of the regular season, it might mean the difference between playing a knockout Semi away, or a second chance semi at home...
 
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i see where some of you are coming from but i just dont see how you can believe its a stupid idea. maybe not everyone fully gets it, it is quite complex compared to the current system. maybe once its fully understood i think more people woudl fully come on board with it.

From those you mention, everyone fully understands. Everyone completely disagrees. It destroys consistent teams and will cause more reason for argument. You want it for the excitement factor, but there is absolutely nothing exciting about this. Takes away the full glory of hanging on, putting the body on the line to grab a memorable win. It's not complex at all either, we're not stupid.
 

Loudstrat

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So teams don't have to win games anymore? :lol:

How do you run the semis? Brisbane beat Melbourne by 3 points in the GF but lose because Melbourne has a better aggregate? :lol:

I have a better idea for the premiership ladder. F*ck off.
 

Firey_Dragon

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i see where some of you are coming from but i just dont see how you can believe its a stupid idea. maybe not everyone fully gets it, it is quite complex compared to the current system. maybe once its fully understood i think more people woudl fully come on board with it.
Yes you're right, having a premiership ladder that relies solely (take note, that is how you spell it) on points differential is far more complex than a competition that has points for a win and a draw, relies on points differential in the case of a draw, and utilises points for, then against in the event of a tie on PD.

This is an idiotic idea, I really hope this is just a trolling post or the logical thought of some people in society really is a major concern.
 

madunit

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i think one of the more discussed problems with the nrl at present is the way the ladder system operates. to isolate ourselves, and make ourselves more globally marketable, i think the nrl should demolish the 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw system.

i came up with this idea, that the ladder souly be done on For and against (F/A). so for example if the rabbitohs won there first two games by 26 and 32, then lost there third game by 10, there points on the ladder would be 50. i think this would make the game faster, more exciting, and reward the great attacking players like benji marshall, matt bowen, james mcmanus and brett stewart.

however what makes this system so exciting is, one week you could be 20 points on the ladder, and then the next week you could be -10 points on the ladder. so literally one week you are on positive points, and then the next weeks you are negative
The major issue with you dopey f**king idea is that the for and against on a ladder rarely differs from ladder points anyway.

You may as well say, Instead of 2 points for a win, a team should get 4 points.

Your idea rewards points scored, not wins.

Take your idea on bord, if a team with 10 4 point wins would be lower on the ladder than a team with 5 50 points wins and 5 40 points losses.

Do you think thats fair?

No, it's completely f**king demented.

Go shove you dumb f**king head back up your arse you dumb merkin.
 

GB!

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i like the S14 ladder system

4 points for a win
2 for a draw.
1 bonus point awarded for scoring 4 or more tries or by losing by less than 7 points.

could work with league, just have to make a few changes.

rewards you for flogging a team and for losing close matches.
 

madunit

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i like the S14 ladder system

4 points for a win
2 for a draw.
1 bonus point awarded for scoring 4 or more tries or by losing by less than 7 points.

could work with league, just have to make a few changes.

rewards you for flogging a team and for losing close matches.
For and Away rewards you for consistency and for those big wins and close losses.

Giving a team extra points, again is stupid.

You could end up with a situation where a team makes it into the top 8 with 1-2 wins less than a team that misses out.

You people need to realise that winning is the name of the game, not scoring a sh*tload of points. If you want to scores of 100 plus, go and watch AFL you dickheads.

The ladder works fine, the system is perfect, it is fair for everyone, it has never been contentious or caused any controversy. Why change it?

This is dopiest thread filled with the most thoughtless braindead concepts since Moffo's Big Financial News thread.
 

GB!

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Giving a team extra points, again is stupid.

You could end up with a situation where a team makes it into the top 8 with 1-2 wins less than a team that misses out.

why, teams losing by only 2-6 points each week deserve something for putting in a good effort each week

and who cares about the second point.

at least we have input to the thread instead of calling people names cause you think their idea is dumb
 

madunit

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It IS dumb.

Would you be happy to see your team miss the finals even though it had more wins than the two teams above it?

It's f**king spastic.

You get rewarded for winning. If you lose and keep it close, then you get rewarded by minimal effect to your for and against.

Why must a perfectly good and simple system need to be f**ked with.

No one has had any issues with for 102 years. All of a sudden you want to complicate it and change it which would lead to much controversy and many pissed off fans.

The current ladder is fair for all teams.

These ideas you rugby league novices are pumping out here are f**king moronic.
 

madunit

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genius?

What is wrong with the current ladder format?

Why should inconsistent teams be rewarded more than the consistent sides?

Why should bonus points be introduced, thus taking the fairness out of the ladder?

Why should points scored be more important than victories?

The person who made these suggestions and deemed them 'improvements', along with the simpletons who agree, are the geniuss.
 

GB!

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just stooping to your level.

i didn't agree with what you said, so i done what you did...
revert to name calling:roll:
 
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why, teams losing by only 2-6 points each week deserve something for putting in a good effort each week

and who cares about the second point.

at least we have input to the thread instead of calling people names cause you think their idea is dumb

No they don't.
If they can't get up in an arm wrestle then they can't walk away with points.
 

RufusRex

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f**ked idea ...

venues become a huge issue as well with respect to rain frequency etc ...

2 for a win, 1 for a draw, 0 for a loss and piss off golden point ...

sometimes the simple things in life are the best.
 

dragon_around

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The only thing I would change with the current ladder, is giving teams 2 points for having a bye. They shouldn't get any points, the ladder would then reflect where teams really stand and you no longer have to calculate byes yourself.

That a team cannot play and still advance ahead the same way another team who plays and wins a game does, is crazy.
 
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i'm afraid no ladder system can help the rorters.....:lol:

Wow, cuts deep, now f*ck off.

The only thing I would change with the current ladder, is giving teams 2 points for having a bye. They shouldn't get any points, the ladder would then reflect where teams really stand and you no longer have to calculate byes yourself.

That a team cannot play and still advance ahead the same way another team who plays and wins a game does, is crazy.

Mate, I assume it's all tradition now the two points for the bye. At the end it's all the same.

f**ked idea ...

venues become a huge issue as well with respect to rain frequency etc ...

2 for a win, 1 for a draw, 0 for a loss and piss off golden point ...

sometimes the simple things in life are the best.

Exactly right. Truer words about this issue cannot be spoken.
 

madunit

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just stooping to your level.
No you're not. I'm answering questions put forward. You're just being a dickhead.

i didn't agree with what you said, so i done what you did...
revert to name calling:roll:
So that's all you read.

The one line out of several at the end rightfully calling these ideas for what they are.

You clearly have no argument.
 

GB!

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No you're not. I'm answering questions put forward. You're just being a dickhead.

So that's all you read.

The one line out of several at the end rightfully calling these ideas for what they are.

You clearly have no argument.

lol, you already answered my argument....:crazy:

but i don't have one:lol:
 

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