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carcharias

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I think 28 is a best case scenario for them.
They wont make it .
Once the bullshit wears off they'll start losing.
 

Card Shark

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With their positive for & against, they'd get there with that.

Should've put them on 0 for/against.

Actually they should've put them on -16 points.

If it takes 28 to get to the finals, take that many of them. This has gone on for 5 of the last years & got progressively more sinister..

They have got off lightly the more I think about it.
 

Card Shark

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I think 28 is a best case scenario for them.
They wont make it .
Once the bullshit wears off they'll start losing.

Yeh, they'll win a few on emotion & lose heaps on exhaustion.

The Roosters are on 4 & getting players back but are only marginal chance of making it. They have a big headstart on the Eels.
 

carcharias

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With their positive for & against, they'd get there with that.

Should've put them on 0 for/against.

Actually they should've put them on -16 points.

If it takes 28 to get to the finals, take that many of them. This has gone on for 5 of the last years & got progressively more sinister..

They have got off lightly the more I think about it.

exactly.
we copped the same fine for 4 weeks of peptides with players being banned ...and they didn't even know they'd taken it.
The media demolished us for 12 months....more.
4 weeks only.
 

Special K

Coach
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I think they should have had their F/A taken away to 0 as the points they came up with were illegal or they should have had it sent to the worst in the league at -192. If they finish on 28 with another team and make it on FA that would be f**ked
 

RUBIKS

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Yup, they got off light.

Teams have got into the 8 with a 50% season all the time. It's not hard to imagine they'll make it. It all comes down to what players they might lose and when Foran comes back.

Someone in the NRL forum mentioned it but shouldn't they be -4?

Lose all their points and then lose 4 points for that 4 point threat they could lose for not implementing changes recommended by the NRL and owning up to any potential cap breaches?
 

Special K

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Below is a really good break down of how f**ked Parra are

Parramatta may be forced to release Corey Norman or another big-name star as part of a fire sale to get under the salary cap before their next match on May 13 in a move likely to spark a merry-go-round of mid-season player transfers.
This is going to cost them a big name

A rival NRL club CEO
With the NRL telling the Eels they must shed $570,000 of talent before the team can start accruing premiership points again, rival clubs are reviewing their own rosters with an eye to snaring Parramatta players at a bargain-basement price.
First cab off the rank? Corey Norman is one of several Eels stars who may be shown the door as the embattled club ...
First cab off the rank? Corey Norman is one of several Eels stars who may be shown the door as the embattled club attempts to get back under the salary cap. Photo: Mark Nolan
A decision on the playing future of Anthony Watmough will be crucial to the Eels' hopes of getting under the salary cap but even if he agrees to retire and the NRL accepts that he has a career-ending injury, Parramatta will have to shed other players.
Watmough's contract is understood to be worth $700,000 per season plus third-party agreements valued at $200,000 under the salary cap because they were guaranteed by Parramatta. However, the former Test back rower has already earned six months' pay, so the most the Eels could save is $450,000 if the NRL immediately approved the terms of his retirement.
Further, Parramatta would need to replace him in their top-25-man squad with a player on at least $42,500, which is half the minimum wage for the season. The same applies for any other player they release.
Therefore, the most the Eels are likely to save if Watmough retires is $407,500 and they will still need to release a player on $400,000 per season or more to cover the remainder of their salary cap excess as $200,000 of his contract money would have already been paid and any replacement would be valued at $42,500 or more.

Rival clubs will also seek to sign Parramatta players at below-market value by getting the Eels to subsidise the contracts of players they release.
Parramatta coach Brad Arthur will be determined not to lose Norman when he meets with club officials on Wednesday to discuss how they can immediately get under the salary cap but his $400,000-per-year contract expires at the end of this season and and the star playmaker is reportedly seeking $600,000 for 2017 and beyond.
Fullback Michael Gordon is also off contract at the end of the season but his deal is believed to be worth less than $200,000, meaning that the Eels would only save about $60,000 after adding another player on minimum wage to their top-25-man squad in his place.
As a result, Parramatta would need to release at least three players on similar deals to Gordon to save the additional $170,000 needed to become cap compliant and rely on Watmough retiring due to a chronic knee injury.

Should he decide to do so, the NRL would need reliable medical evidence that Watmough has a career-ending injury and any attempt by him to make a comeback after receiving an insurance payout would be strongly resisted.
There was confusion among Parramatta officials and at other clubs about what players the Eels would need to let go but the only players on big money deals who could help solve their woes are Watmough, Norman, Kieran Foran, Michael Jennings and Beau Scott.
"They are probably going to have to release three or four high-profile players to get under the cap and I don't think they will be able to do it," one rival NRL club boss said.
Another club CEO said: "This is going to cost them a big name."

The Sydney Roosters, Gold Coast and Newcastle all have room under the salary cap to accommodate players released by Parramatta but other clubs told Fairfax Media they would prepare to adjust their rosters if necessary should a player of the calibre of Norman or Jennings become available.
Negotiations with Norman have been on hold while the Eels waited for the NRL to hand down their findings from the three-month salary-cap investigation and his agent Paul Sutton has admitted the in-form playmaker could be forced out of the club.
Until the Eels shed $570,000 from their salary cap, they will be playing without the ability to earn competition points and it is estimated the club has four weeks to do so before it will become impossible to make the NRL finals, even if they win all their remaining games.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...cap-ruling-20160503-gol288.html#ixzz47ejbsite
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Eion

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I think they should have had their F/A taken away to 0 as the points they came up with were illegal or they should have had it sent to the worst in the league at -192. If they finish on 28 with another team and make it on FA that would be f**ked

That won't matter. If they win 12 they'll be so far in the positive. If they are now coming last they should have adopted the nights differential at least.
 

Special K

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That won't matter. If they win 12 they'll be so far in the positive. If they are now coming last they should have adopted the nights differential at least.

They have the 5th best F/A in the comp. There have been many years where the 8th position is decided by FA. It is unfair for them to have a positive FA when resetting their points.
 
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Maybe the easiest way to deal with them is to take the signing that took them over the cap for the season,
Jennings?
 

webShark

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That won't matter. If they win 12 they'll be so far in the positive. If they are now coming last they should have adopted the nights differential at least.

Basically , have to win 12 from 13. Hard to imagine.
 

Vin Fizz

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Yup, they got off light.?

I thought Greenberg was pretty magnanimous about the decision to be honest. He spoke at length on the BSB. He made it clear that he wanted the window washers to have some hope for the sake of the fans and the club. Yeah, I s'pose. But reading between the lines he fell short of saying that the punishment handed down to the Cheaters and the Hounds was too harsh which everyone is comparing the action against. Anyway my mail is whilst he may be a first class risole as some on the good forum have experienced he is very well respected among the NRL and RLC staff and management. I think he has handled it pretty well.
 

Eion

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Basically , have to win 12 from 13. Hard to imagine.

Thought they're saying 12 from 15. But yeah, pretty much impossible. They have a pretty easy draw from here, but still have Broncs, Raiders and Sharks away. As well as Storm and Manly at home. They'll rally for a few weeks but will run out of puff.
 

Card Shark

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That won't matter. If they win 12 they'll be so far in the positive. If they are now coming last they should have adopted the nights differential at least.

Good point!

In the end, they should've taken a heap more points off them.

Or not announce it in a bye week, so they at least play 1 week for no points.
 

webShark

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Thought they're saying 12 from 15. But yeah, pretty much impossible. They have a pretty easy draw from here, but still have Broncs, Raiders and Sharks away. As well as Storm and Manly at home. They'll rally for a few weeks but will run out of puff.

Media crap. 12 from 15 wins but have 2 byes. Means 12 from 13. In reality. They will not get close to finals with 24 points. That is what confused me.
 

Jaegerex

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Media crap. 12 from 15 wins but have 2 byes. Means 12 from 13. In reality. They will not get close to finals with 24 points. That is what confused me.

The byes were already acount for. 17 rounds to go, 15 games each.
 

sandshark

Bench
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goodluck to Parra, certainly need all the luck they can get.
finally get a good year for them but suddenly it falls down.
 

bluefox1968

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goodluck to Parra, certainly need all the luck they can get.
finally get a good year for them but suddenly it falls down.

Yes, one of my good mates is a Parra supporter - they have NOT had a good run...

All downhill since 1986...

IMO< they should NOT get rid of Norman.

I would offload Jennings.
 

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