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Prometheus

legend

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He was also in 28 weeks later, in a similar sort of role. He was the army colonel in charge of London.
 

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I liked it a lot and I hope there is a sequel to tie into Alien.

I thought the use of Guy Pearce was a waste. Why couldn't they get Lance Henriksen to play Weyland and get David to do the knife trick from Aliens. ;-)

Why did they cast Guy in this role? He was so heavily made up to make him look ancient and never once showed him youthful. Surely they could just have gotten an older actor for the part and saved on the SE make up
 

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I agree with you Firey, but I couldn't ignore all the scientists being such idiots for the sake of cinema. I was expecting this to be a smart film, but in the end turned out to be just an action film asking some questions which it neglected to answer.

I can accept the fact that they were stupid simply because they were all essentially guns for hire, with no clue of what they were actually on the ship for (except for the ideological zealots). You don't exactly get the cream of the crop when putting people in stasis for a few years and not telling them what for.

Still, absolutely no biologist would remove their helmet ever when simply getting a reading that the air is breathable. I was probably a bit generous in my rating, the flaws outweigh the good.

However, the opening scene indicates to me that the whole thing could have been deliberate to create some 'master race' (the space jockeys were incapable of handling the virus), thus the ending with a combination of two diverging biological species and the hybrid parasite. Unfortunately it was incredibly convoluted by the end that getting a good answer as to what was actually happening was pretty difficult.

As I said, some of the writing was actually pretty good, then other scenes were downright cringeworthy... ie "I wonder what it's like to create life"... "Why would you say that? You know I can't have a baby" etc etc

Everyone should have died on the planet. Michael Fassbender and the captain were pretty much the only convincing characters.
 

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Just saw it for a 2nd time, in 3D this time (didn't add anything, save your money) and it was a lot more satisfying knowing you wouldn't get straight out ALIEN tie in and answers. Very good movie.

Best reasoning I can come up with for the lack of definite tie in was because of the complaints (and probable problems) that came up with X-men 1st Class. People complained that it all felt too convenient in the end that it seemed forced to have everyone where we knew they would be (in 20 years time) and makes the sequel have to backstep on some of those decisions. I think they really want to make 1 or 2 more Prometheus films and needed to leave somewhere to go.
 
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The other thing I didn't understand was how/why that dude came back to life with superhuman strength and wanting to kill everyone? I liked the exorcist like effect with him looking like a crab but thats about it. But yeah What was with that and how did it tie in with anything? Was he being controlled by those worms? If that black goop stuff made worms mutate, why does it make humans die?
 

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The other thing I didn't understand was how/why that dude came back to life with superhuman strength and wanting to kill everyone? I liked the exorcist like effect with him looking like a crab but thats about it. But yeah What was with that and how did it tie in with anything? Was he being controlled by those worms? If that black goop stuff made worms mutate, why does it make humans die?

Here is something that I read in the IMDB forums

With Fifield, he also got burned with acid blood and melted glass as well as a bit of goo, but probably not a lot of it.

But all the symptoms exhibit xenomorphic tendencies, so they were consistent in that way.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/board/thread/200340346?d=200341449&p=1#200341449
 

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Just saw it for a 2nd time, in 3D this time (didn't add anything, save your money) and it was a lot more satisfying knowing you wouldn't get straight out ALIEN tie in and answers. Very good movie.

Best reasoning I can come up with for the lack of definite tie in was because of the complaints (and probable problems) that came up with X-men 1st Class. People complained that it all felt too convenient in the end that it seemed forced to have everyone where we knew they would be (in 20 years time) and makes the sequel have to backstep on some of those decisions. I think they really want to make 1 or 2 more Prometheus films and needed to leave somewhere to go.

Or they shouldn't have bothered with the Alien tie-in period. IMO this was the worst flaw in the movie, the final scene was terrible.

X-Men first class reached a conclusion, Prometheus had a weak cameo that really had no relevance to the previous 2.5 hours.
 

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Why did they cast Guy in this role? He was so heavily made up to make him look ancient and never once showed him youthful. Surely they could just have gotten an older actor for the part and saved on the SE make up

Yeah i dont get it either, unless or course in the next movies we see a young Weyland..
 
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It's funny how they advertise the movie by showing the ending.

predators was contrived shit dumbing down a potentially good concept into a z grade film with crap actors, a bunch of characters you want to be killed in the first 5 minutes, that ridiculous dude in the spaceship who's been smoking too much of something and geniused predators.

I actually think it was worse than AVP2 and that was pure shit. I hate hollywood for what they've done to potentially good movies

You realise you've just described the original Predator.
Don't get me wrong, Predator was awesome but let's not make it out to be something better than it actually is.
It was a war movie that turned into a b-grade monster movie.
Predators was the same but without the war part.
 

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It's funny how they advertise the movie by showing the ending.

Kinda, but there ain't that many people left when the ship crashes.
I think all the tv ads gave it away too, the whole "there won't be any home left to go home to" line was played in pretty much all of them
 

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I can accept the fact that they were stupid simply because they were all essentially guns for hire, with no clue of what they were actually on the ship for (except for the ideological zealots). You don't exactly get the cream of the crop when putting people in stasis for a few years and not telling them what for.

Still, absolutely no biologist would remove their helmet ever when simply getting a reading that the air is breathable. I was probably a bit generous in my rating, the flaws outweigh the good.

However, the opening scene indicates to me that the whole thing could have been deliberate to create some 'master race' (the space jockeys were incapable of handling the virus), thus the ending with a combination of two diverging biological species and the hybrid parasite. Unfortunately it was incredibly convoluted by the end that getting a good answer as to what was actually happening was pretty difficult.

As I said, some of the writing was actually pretty good, then other scenes were downright cringeworthy... ie "I wonder what it's like to create life"... "Why would you say that? You know I can't have a baby" etc etc

Everyone should have died on the planet. Michael Fassbender and the captain were pretty much the only convincing characters.

That would be understandable if Shaw and Holloway weren't among the stupidest ones. And I guess the others are expected to be stupid considering they signed up for a 5 year long trip to an isolated planet without even knowing the basic job description. For all they know the place could be inhabited by monsters that will kill them all...
Some of the characters actions reminded me of a teen slasher film, they were that dumb. 'There's a big storm coming that could fry your suit, we're closing the doors in 15 minutes' 'oh ok but I need some more time here' 'STORM, NO SUIT, DEAD, what more do you need to understand?'

Not to mention the space jockey fellow running across the desert to kill Shaw instead of taking one of the other three ships to destroy Earth like he wanted to before.
 

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It would've been 100 times better if they hadn't tried to tie it into the Alien mythos and just had it as a standalone movie. Would've been so much better.

The Alien stuff felt really tacked on/created plotholes/ruined some of the Alien mystery wrt the Space Jockey's.

In saying that, it's the best old fashioned sci fi movie I've seen in ages.




Where was this announced? I was under the impression that a sequel was up in the air depending on success but that was it. And tbh a sequel isn't needed.


http://www.digitalspy.com.au/movies...uld-be-called-paradise-says-ridley-scott.html
 

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Interesting movie with some awesome visuals and atmosphere, but the connection to the original Alien film was so weak. That final scene was the most tacked on thing ive ever seen and it virtually rendered the rest of the film pointless and unless they are going to make another Prometheus then it was a very pointless film. Despite that I enjoyed it.
 

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when i saw prometheus i was so dazzled by the special effects i didnt really have time to sit down and think about it until the next day then i realised there was very little explanation
(you can tell it was written by someone from Lost because just like an episode of that show you get 1 answer and have 23 new questions)

e.g. i still have no idea who the engineers are, what they want, why they were storing the containers of black goo, why they were coming to earth, why the revived engineer attacked the crew etc etc
now before you all come down on me with explanations i would ask is this your own theory or what is shown in the film?

i hate the current hollywood trend of dumbing down movies and explaining everything to the audience like they were a five year old but you still need some idea of what's going on
 

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