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Cliffhanger

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I took a mass gainer for about 10 weeks to try and add some muscle then do a cut. I ended gaining about 10kg, about 6kg of that would have been fat I reckon. I got up to about 88kg on that stuff. Starting a cutting phase and dropped down to around 73kg. Lost all the fat and all the muscle I had gained. Pointless really..
That's because you're a nub and have no idea what you're doing.
 

Mark Rudd

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Lol at the guys who buy brand name protein. And even bigger lol at the guys who think WPI is that much better then WPC.


Here's your sign...
 
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Wow you must have been biding your time for awhile to post that video.

Somebody asked a question and you answered it incorrectly. Some things are more effective than others, simple doesn't mean there's only one approach to everything.

Not really mate, I could've done the same thing a month ago in this thread. Just didn't like your tone with "Wrong!".
 

Cliffhanger

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You claimed there was no difference, I just pointed out that you were wrong, and that offends you? My God you must of either been a fat kid or a dweeb in high school who got picked on a lot and now compensates for their miserable childhood building superficial muscles and lifting heavy weights.

Congratulations on that, congratulations on spending so much time building the type of muscles that have so little benefit outside of lifting heavy weights, the type that don't really make you that much fitter or any more capable in a majority of physical activities. I'm sure you really showed those mean boys.:clap:
 

Cliffhanger

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Lol jealous. I'm a climber, big muscles is the last thing I want, in fact I had to take lifting heavy weights completely out of my workout routines, but when I was doing heavy weights, it only took me a few weeks to be benching above my body weight, it's not that hard if you put the effort in (a lack of discipline is why not everyone can do it.) Everybody has different priorities with their training, I put the most effort into body weight workouts because they assist with my climbing, like pull ups, one handed pull ups, campus board training, plank, etc and stuff that works your core and more subtle muscles.

I'm also a girl, so no I'm not jealous of a guy being able to dead lift more than me, wouldn't be jealous if a girl could either.

Maybe I went a little overboard with my response, just thought posting that video was a little bit lame.
 
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Lol jealous. I'm a climber, big muscles is the last thing I want, in fact I had to take lifting heavy weights completely out of my workout routines, but when I was doing heavy weights, it only took me a few weeks to be benching above my body weight, it's not that hard if you put the effort in (a lack of discipline is why not everyone can do it.) Everybody has different priorities with their training, I put the most effort into body weight workouts because they assist with my climbing, like pull ups, one handed pull ups, campus board training, plank, etc and stuff that works your core and more subtle muscles.

I'm also a girl, so no I'm not jealous of a guy being able to dead lift more than me, wouldn't be jealous if a girl could either.

Maybe I went a little overboard with my response, just thought posting that video was a little bit lame.

Yeah posting the video was a bit lame, but I was just trying to put a bit ov legitimacy behind my words. This is a forum and anyone can say what they want and point people in the wrong direction. Especially since as this is a sub-section ov a league forum so anyone that has absolutely know clue what they are talkign about can wander in and put people on the wrong track - nothing to distinguish between an experienced trainer and a guy who heard some bro-science from his mate's cousin.

Ok fair enough, you ain't jelly. But this did sound like a man with a hurt ego eating a PB & jelly sammich:

Congratulations on that, congratulations on spending so much time building the type of muscles that have so little benefit outside of lifting heavy weights, the type that don't really make you that much fitter or any more capable in a majority of physical activities. I'm sure you really showed those mean boys.:clap:

Anyway, (as a massive simplification) strength outside the gym = strength inside the gym + general co-ordination. Your muscles don't suddenly gain some extra contractile ability once you step into a gym.

And thanks for worrying but my fitness is pretty good as well ;-)
 

Mark Rudd

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Mark Rudd: Protein Elitist

Welcome!

We'll, you did say this :

WPC is fine, but I don't see much point in lessening the quality of protein to save a few bucks. I like WPI becuase of the higher protein content, and zero carbs/fats involved, and because your body can absorb it much quicker


So what did all those champions BEFORE WPI came along use?


Either way, just take some EAA's after then a big meal an hour later. Too many concerned with magic supps rather then hard work and good nutrition.
 

dogslife

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We'll, you did say this :




So what did all those champions BEFORE WPI came along use?


Either way, just take some EAA's after then a big meal an hour later. Too many concerned with magic supps rather then hard work and good nutrition.

Or you could just use WPI. I realise in your opinion there's the Mark Rudd way and the wrong way, but I'm not the only one out there that agrees WPI is superior to WPC. But hell, if you don't want to spend a few extra $ on WPI, use WPC, f**k I don't care. I never said it was a magical supp, nor do I use it as my only source of nutrition, at most I have 1, maybe 2 shakes a day. But you know what, you're right, everybody else is wrong...:crazy:
 

Cliffhanger

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Protein Powder is convenient and absorbed faster than a majority of other protein sources.

If you wanted you could just buy a 200 gram can of tuna in spring water for 1 buck each and get about the same protein as in a serving WPI, fat and carb count is the same too, not the same level of amino acids though. But tuna is going to take longer to consume and absorb.

For me I add WPC to my smoothies in the morning after my run and before my workout and have WPI after my climbing session, because it's absorbed so fast and within that recovery window it stops me from feeling like I've been hit by a truck the next morning.
 

Hooch

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I reckon you bros have no f**kin clue what you're on about and if we replaced your shakes with water and gave you a larger piece of steak (or cottage cheese and steamed chicken... yummo :eek:) for tea your 'gains' would remain the same.

But hey if you want to keep chuffing down overpriced melamine bulked garbage out of the finest factories China has to offer, knock yourself out.
 
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aqua_duck

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I reckon you bros have no f**kin clue what you're on about and if we replaced your shakes with water and gave you a larger piece of steak (or cottage cheese and steamed chicken... yummo :eek:) for tea your 'gains' would remain the same.

But hey if you want to keep chuffing down overpriced melamine bulked garbage out of the finest factories China has to offer, knock yourself out.

So all these sports teams, pro athletes, etc are all wrong and you're right....
 

Cliffhanger

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I reckon you bros have no f**kin clue what you're on about and if we replaced your shakes with water and gave you a larger piece of steak (or cottage cheese and steamed chicken... yummo :eek:) for tea your 'gains' would remain the same.

But hey if you want to keep chuffing down overpriced melamine bulked garbage out of the finest factories China has to offer, knock yourself out.

WPI is absorbed a lot quicker than those sources of protein you nub, not only that it's a lot more convenient to consume post workout, what part of that is so difficult to understand? You'd have to eat a whole cup of cottage cheese, great idea to take that with you to the gym, I mean cottage cheese keeps so well in the sun.
 

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