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soc123_au

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Speaking of wankers what about this drivel, Mr Crawley you have excelled your self

NRL Tackle: Ivan Cleary’s hypocrisy on show in explosive fallout to JWH-Spencer Leniu fight​

Ivan Cleary thinks Jared Waerea-Hargreaves was ‘looking for trouble’ in the explosive Roosters-Panthers showdown, but he might need to look a little closer to home, writes Paul Crawley.



NRL: Jared Waerea-Hargreaves and Spencer Leniu have almost come to blows in a huge fiery exchange which resulted in both props heading to the sin bin.
It was a bit rich of Ivan Cleary throwing Jared Waerea-Hargreaves under the bus when accusing the Roosters enforcer of “looking for trouble” in the explosive aftermath to the Panthers’ thumping 30-6 win over the Roosters.

While it is understandable an NRL coach will want to look after his own players, Cleary might want to remember he doesn’t coach a team of choir boys.
And he has one player in particular in Jarome Luai who goes out every single week with what appears a clear intention of looking for trouble, albeit in a very different way to what Cleary was accusing Waerea-Hargreaves of here.
Jared Waerea-Hargreaves and Spencer Leniu come together in a flashpoint at the end of the match. NRL Imagery

Jared Waerea-Hargreaves and Spencer Leniu come together in a flashpoint at the end of the match. NRL Imagery
But in the big prop’s defence, it was outrageous of Cleary to suggest intentional foul play had anything to do with the two ugly incidents involving Liam Martin and Moses Leota.
While Cleary’s comments about Waerea-Hargreaves’ apparent intention to start the trouble were just as ludicrous, with the claim “the balance of probability was that Jared was probably the one initiating it” complete and utter nonsense.
In the incident involving Martin it was the Panthers backrower who came in from the side and hit his head on Waerea-Hargreaves’ hip.
A total accident, which was proven by the fact the NRL did not charge JWH for what happened.
While in respect to Leota, as Trent Robinson said, Waerea-Hargreaves was simply running with his bumpers up like every prop does, and the replays certainly did not indicate to me that he raised his elbow in an act of illegal play. Again, the NRL match review committee agreed.
Penrith coach Ivan Cleary had some choice words to say about Roosters enforcer Jared Waerea-Hargreaves. Picture: Getty

Penrith coach Ivan Cleary had some choice words to say about Roosters enforcer Jared Waerea-Hargreaves. Picture: Getty
You see multiple incidents very similar in most games, just go back to Thursday night when Tino Fa’asuamaleaui broke Api Koroisau’s jaw.
Yet when asked if he had an issue with this one, Cleary didn’t hold back.
“If I’m truthful, I did,” Cleary added. “I think it was very questionable. The way he looked. Where he saw him. The way it (the elbow) was cocked.”
There was a time when rival coaches would steer clear of commenting on incidents likely to go before the NRL match review committee out of respect, especially when the evidence was as unclear as this was.
No doubt, Waerea-Hargreaves over reacted when squirting Spencer Leniu with water before hurling the bottle at him.
Waerea-Hargreaves has a reputation as one of the game’s most fiery forwards. Picture: Getty

Waerea-Hargreaves has a reputation as one of the game’s most fiery forwards. Picture: Getty
But again, Cleary’s inability to see fault in his own players was highlighted by the fact he was confused why Leniu was even sent to the sin bin.
How about the fact Leniu was carrying on like a lunatic and couldn’t be calmed down, not even by his own captain Isaah Yeo.
Even when Lenui was walking from the field he still couldn’t control his anger as he started doing lewd gestures to the crowd and appearing to offer to fight anyone out in the car park.
You want talk about out of control, that was the rugby league definition of it.
Crawley is such a whiney little bitch. Ivan must have brushed him for an autograph at some point in the past.
 
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I guess it’s par for the course on here for posters to dunk on Kenny after every game but I thought, besides that one horrible pass along the ground, that he had a great game. He put on some enormous hits and was rock solid in defence. He’s also being asked to play big minutes every week because IC, perhaps justifiably, doesn’t trust Luke.
Also, if Api did the move Kenny did for Yeo’s try then posters in her would be drooling about his guile; engaged the markers and the A-defender.
 

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Smith is now our 4th best prop, now that Sorensen has moved to an edge. Hosking is our 3rd best edge forward. They should both be in our 17.

Except we are playing Salmon and Luke in the 17. It only allows 2 genuine forwards on the bench
 

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Except we are playing Salmon and Luke in the 17. It only allows 2 genuine forwards on the bench

Yeo plays 80
Marto can play 80
Soro can play 80
Kenny can play 80
Fish can play 65ish
Hosking can play 80
Lindsay Smith is a high minute player

We can carry salmon and Luke...

Whether that's the best option I'm not sure.. but salmon has been really good this year..

He's better than geyer and others..

I think if we eventually go with marto and soro starting on an edge and they can play 80 than there's no point having hosking or Garner on the bench for a 15/20 minute stint.

Neither are impact players and offer nothing off the bench.

Salmon is a solid enough 2nd row option and he covers the half's at a pinch so you get more coverage with him off the bench.

Personally I think its worth trying Kenny at 9 for 80.

Salmon can cover 9 at a pinch... Kenny is super durable and barely never gets injured so for the 5% chance he goes down I'm happy with salmon taking that role. He can share with luai.

Backs pick themselves..

Forwards I think our best is

Leota
Kenny
Fish
Soro (left)
Marto (right)
Yeo

Salmon
Spencer
Smith
....Luke, hosking, eiso,

I think the last spot should be a week to week dependent decision on who we are versing
 

Iamback

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Yeo plays 80
Marto can play 80
Soro can play 80
Kenny can play 80
Fish can play 65ish
Hosking can play 80
Lindsay Smith is a high minute player

We can carry salmon and Luke...

Whether that's the best option I'm not sure.. but salmon has been really good this year..

He's better than geyer and others..

I think if we eventually go with marto and soro starting on an edge and they can play 80 than there's no point having hosking or Garner on the bench for a 15/20 minute stint.

Neither are impact players and offer nothing off the bench.

Salmon is a solid enough 2nd row option and he covers the half's at a pinch so you get more coverage with him off the bench.

Personally I think its worth trying Kenny at 9 for 80.

Salmon can cover 9 at a pinch... Kenny is super durable and barely never gets injured so for the 5% chance he goes down I'm happy with salmon taking that role. He can share with luai.

Backs pick themselves..

Forwards I think our best is

Leota
Kenny
Fish
Soro (left)
Marto (right)
Yeo

Salmon
Spencer
Smith
....Luke, hosking, eiso,

I think the last spot should be a week to week dependent decision on who we are versing

So exactly what I said, Smith or Hosking make the side not both
 

Girds89

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So exactly what I said, Smith or Hosking make the side not both
No I think Smith is a permanent in.

Hosking makes the side dependent on who we are verging.

Teams with big forward packs that tire than Luke on the bench. Smaller quicker teams hosking.

Horses for courses.. the last bloke will most likely get limited mins anyway so doesn't effect team dynamics
 

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