Raiders lose again

[Anonymous]

When did we not believe the judicary would make the right decision? You make no sense.

This makes no sense. I'm amused at the fact you believe you are justified by the judiciary. You didn't think the same when Wiki got suspended.

 

[I Bleed Green]

When did we not believe the judicary would make the right decision? You make no sense.

This makes no sense. I'm amused at the fact you believe you are justified by the judiciary. You didn't think the same when Wiki got suspended.

So every tackle is the same, is it?

I think you'll find that every Canberra supporter said that Ruben should've been suspended, just not for 5 weeks. Most non-Canberra supporters said the same thing.

Every case has different merits.

 

[Raider Azz]

When did we not believe the judicary would make the right decision? You make no sense.

This makes no sense. I'm amused at the fact you believe you are justified by the judiciary. You didn't think the same when Wiki got suspended.

Please quote me. Because I can't seem to remember saying that.......maybe because I didn't! I NEVER said anything about the judicary when Wiki got suspended. So why don't you "amuse" yourself some other way, unless you care to back up your arguments with PROOF.

 

[Anonymous]

Please quote me. Because I can't seem to remember saying that.......maybe because I didn't! I NEVER said anything about the judicary when Wiki got suspended. So why don't you "amuse" yourself some other way, unless you care to back up your arguments with PROOF.

So........you have faith in the NRL judiciary, and believe that their decisions are invariably correct??

If your answer is yes, you are rather odd.

If your answer is no, then the judiciary's decision does not validate your opinion.

 

[greeneyed]

The referee was a joke. I never use him as an excuse, but Steve Lyons was awful.

In the first half there were several high tackles against us, and he warned Monty Betham that next time he'd send someone off. So there was a next time, but Seu Seu a repeat offender, did another high tackle... and took no action. Grow some balls son.

The Seu Seu tackle on Davico was 10 x worse than the one that Hodges was sent off for.

And then with 7 minutes to go, he did cost us the game. Gafa was playing the ball, the Warriors bloke was all over him and pushed him back, and the referee ruled a knock on (the ball never went forward, it was just a sloppy play the ball which the Warriors caused). From the ensuing scrum, the Warriors scored the match winning try.

I think the Warriors had the game plan to come out and try and rattle us by going high, apparently it worked.

Meli, Faumuina and Seu Seu will find themselves on the sidelines for quite a while, if there's any consistency.

Still, we could've won it much earlier. No excuses I suppose.

Whinge moan, whinge moan. Accept it, you got beaten by a side with more hunger and spirit today.
WTF are you on about with the Seu Seu hit on Davico? Jerry dropped the shoulder and Davico fell into it. There was NOTHING in that tackle, it was unlucky to even cop a penalty. Seu Seu won't have a case to answer at the judiciary, it was an unfortunate accident for Davico, that's all.

So how come he is on THREE charges, and is up for 5-6 weeks JUST for the high tackle? How did he stay on the field?

Plus there are two others up for 4 weeks for a lifting tackle.....

I simply don't understand how a player who behaved like Seu Seu yesterday remained on the field.

 

[greeneyed]

I'm not seeing the tackle with one eye. The tackle was disgusting. During the after match report with Laurie Daley and Warren Smith Daley said he was apalled that SeuSeu wasn't sent off for the shot on Davico. The one-eyed reactions are coming from everyone else who were saying "it was just a good hit".

Everyone else is biased, but former Canberra Raider, Laurie Daley isn't?

The look on his face was priceless. He probably thought the game was over 10 from the end too.

Daley is no Raiders supporter these days. He is biased AGAINST us in his commentary now, and biased in favour of St George.

 

[Raider Ultra]

If Lyons had done his job and sent the players, Woolford wouldn't have to have done the revenge shot.

 

[greeneyed]

The referee was a joke. I never use him as an excuse, but Steve Lyons was awful.

In the first half there were several high tackles against us, and he warned Monty Betham that next time he'd send someone off. So there was a next time, but Seu Seu a repeat offender, did another high tackle... and took no action. Grow some balls son.

The Seu Seu tackle on Davico was 10 x worse than the one that Hodges was sent off for.

And then with 7 minutes to go, he did cost us the game. Gafa was playing the ball, the Warriors bloke was all over him and pushed him back, and the referee ruled a knock on (the ball never went forward, it was just a sloppy play the ball which the Warriors caused). From the ensuing scrum, the Warriors scored the match winning try.

I think the Warriors had the game plan to come out and try and rattle us by going high, apparently it worked.

Meli, Faumuina and Seu Seu will find themselves on the sidelines for quite a while, if there's any consistency.

Still, we could've won it much earlier. No excuses I suppose.

HAHAHAHAHA!!
Clown.

How about the knock on call against the Warriors which almost cost us the game late in the piece?? Francis Meli off-loaded the ball directly backwards, Croker trys to pick it up and drops it, knock-on Warriors. From the ensuing scrum, Bulgarelli knocks the ball on TWICE trying to catch it- play on.

As for the tackles, the only reason SeuSeu even got penalised was because of the video ref, the first one might get him a week if he's unlucky, the second was the softest high tackle penalised so far this year- send him off?? HAHAHAHA.

Meli and Faumuina?? For what? There was absolutely nothing doing in that "lifting tackle" either. Monaghan wouldn't go to ground, the referee refused to call held (as Monty Betham quite rightly pointed out) so Faumuina grabbed him by the legs in an attempt to tip him up. Monaghan went down awkwardly because Meli, who had no intention of lifting him, had his hands between Monaghan legs trying to hold him.

This is hilarious. You are NOT ALLOWED to put hands between the legs. This is the critical factor in assessments of any lifting tackle. He was then certainly tipped well over the horizontal, which is the other critical factor. Simple.

 

[greeneyed]

Thierry is actually one of the more objective posters here.

Meli started to tip Monoghan up, then stopped and let the others finish the tackle off and Monoghan landed on his back. How is that a spear?

Seu Seu's hit on Davico was NOTHING. I can't believe he was on report. LAUGHABLE.

In addition Schifcofske got hit high by Seu Seu, and took a dive. As soon as he knew he was getting the penalty he got up and was fine about it.

You can't send someone off for a lot of high tackles, just for one particularly bad one. Nor can you use that as an excuse for losing. "We lost because one of their players wasn't sent off." What the f**k?

Actually, the ref CAN send off a player for repeated high tackles.

And when were Balmain supporters last "objective" about the Raiders?

 

[greeneyed]

haha thanks BB. To be honest I'd want to see the Faumuina/Meli tackle again before I passed final judgment. I certainly struggle to see how Meli could be suspended, as it was certainly Faumuina who caused Monaghan to be lifted, and as I saw it (this is more subjective though) he had no intention of lifting Monaghan, but rather he was trying to grab him by the legs and either tip him over or drive him back. As it happened, because Meli had Monaghan between the legs, Monaghan went up in the air as soon as Faumuina grabbed his legs- but if a player is standing in the tackle and the referee isn't calling held, why wouldn't you grab his legs??

As for the SeuSeu tackle, the second one (which our friend IBG believes was a send-off offence) was an absolute piss-take on the part of the video ref, a slap on the face if it was above the shoulders at all, and Schifcofske took a timely dive to give Chris Ward, who seemed to delight in tormenting the Warriors all day, a chance to find a penalty. The first one was a much more solid contact although appeared to strike the jaw on the way to the chest, as opposed to a deliberate smack in the mush. Might deserve a suspension though.

Another question- when the Warriors first try was disallowed, why were the Raiders given a 20 metre restart even though McLinden blatantly knocked the ball on?

It was because McLinden knocked it BACK and the Warriors knocked it ON... :roll: :roll:

 

[greeneyed]

The ref actually said he would sit someone down if there were any more infringements in the play the ball. Not for high tackles. I don't think that's even legal.

Yes it is. The ref can send someone off for repeated infringements of the rules. He can send them off or send them to the bin.

 

[greeneyed]

I'd say the be all and end all of bad calls is a try on the 7th tackle hrundi. That was the call of the match my friend. You guys have nothing to complain about.

And I just can't cop this notion of a two man spear tackle. How can you suspend two guys for one tackle?? Did they plan it before the match? Did they miraculously formulate the intent to commit a lifting tackle at exactly the same time?? Surely a lifting tackle is the result of one guys initial lifting (in this case Faumuina).

There is absolutely no evidence it was scored on the 7th tackle.

 

[greeneyed]

I'd say the be all and end all of bad calls is a try on the 7th tackle hrundi. That was the call of the match my friend. You guys have nothing to complain about.

And I just can't cop this notion of a two man spear tackle. How can you suspend two guys for one tackle?? Did they plan it before the match? Did they miraculously formulate the intent to commit a lifting tackle at exactly the same time?? Surely a lifting tackle is the result of one guys initial lifting (in this case Faumuina).

And as I recall, the Raiders had 2 players suspended for a single lifting tackle in a semi final against Penrith at Canberra Stadium not too long ago....

 

[AuckMel]

Daley is no Raiders supporter these days. He is biased AGAINST us in his commentary now, and biased in favour of St George.

In his commentary eh?

He was clearly pissed off that his team had lost the game, and his raving on about the Seuseu tackle bordered on ridiculous.

I certainly don't recall him going on about the Ruben Wiki tackle a few weeks earlier and calling for his send off in that match.

 

[Iafeta]

When did we not believe the judicary would make the right decision? You make no sense.

For the above - :iwstupid:

Lets see, all the times we had to listen to Canberra Raider fans during the Lomax/Pongia days...... :roll:

 

[Anonymous]

There is absolutely no evidence it was scored on the 7th tackle.

haha yes there is. What evidence do you need?? Anyone can count to six. It's a fact, it was scored on the 7th.

It was because McLinden knocked it BACK and the Warriors knocked it ON...

Very dubious, roll your eyes all you like.

haha thanks BB. To be honest I'd want to see the Faumuina/Meli tackle again before I passed final judgment.

Having seen it again, from two different angles, I could handle a Faumuina suspension. Meli, well I'm a little miffed by that.

BTW, how many weeks suspension did Ben Hornby get for an absolute text book beyond the horizontal tackle against the Warriors earlier this year?

 

[Iafeta]

Yes I remember that one. He should have been ordered from the field, no questions asked. Webb was tackled, he picked him up between the legs, and dropped him on his head.

I'd fight all the judiciaries charges. They'd never win, but they need to show its a joke:-

Compare Seu Seu's tackle to jumping jack flash Woolford and Crocker, and Watmough earlier in the year and their low/no gradings; compare Seu Seu's "knee lift" to about 6,000 hit ups this year; compare Meli and Faumuina's lift with the Ben Hornby tackle.

So far the major suspensions for head highs have been Wiki, Seu Seu and Betham. Hmmmmm - are we noticing a trend here? Lets see who can pick it. Well done impartial judiciary.

 

[hrundi99]

When did we not believe the judicary would make the right decision? You make no sense.

For the above - :iwstupid:

Lets see, all the times we had to listen to Canberra Raider fans during the Lomax/Pongia days...... :roll:

I can't remember posting on this forum 10 years ago.

 

[Anonymous]

I also can't fathom for the life of me how SeuSeu's second, complete non-event tackle on Schifcofske was worse than Woolford's tackle.

 

[greeneyed]

There is absolutely no evidence it was scored on the 7th tackle.

haha yes there is. What evidence do you need?? Anyone can count to six. It's a fact, it was scored on the 7th.

It was because McLinden knocked it BACK and the Warriors knocked it ON...

Very dubious, roll your eyes all you like.

haha thanks BB. To be honest I'd want to see the Faumuina/Meli tackle again before I passed final judgment.

Having seen it again, from two different angles, I could handle a Faumuina suspension. Meli, well I'm a little miffed by that.

BTW, how many weeks suspension did Ben Hornby get for an absolute text book beyond the horizontal tackle against the Warriors earlier this year?

The Warriors fans keep saying it is 7, and that we should look at NRL stats to see how it was.... well, the NRL stats show it was scored on the last.