Ramifications of the Kalyn Ponga deal

[Frederick]

When did this happen?

All signs point to it. The Knights haven't confirmed anything. Pongas camp haven't said anything. But Paul Green has already come out and said Ponga has signed. And the QLD papers have been the ones throwing dollar amounts about.

 

[Desert Qlder]

The articles all say how much better off he is staying at the Cowboys under Thurston's tutelage. The Colman article talks about how ripped off the Cowboys have been.

That is all hard to dispute.

One of their players has tried to sign with another club while still under contract to North Queensland. Any club would be a little indignant in those circumstances.

The current environment at the Cowboys is far more conducive to player development than in Newcastle.

There seems to be a strong persecution complex at work here.

, the Cowboys leaking the salary details to the media.

That is still conjecture on your part, which fits with your current state of paranoia.

 

[elyod138]

All signs point to it. The Knights haven't confirmed anything. Pongas camp haven't said anything. But Paul Green has already come out and said Ponga has signed. And the QLD papers have been the ones throwing dollar amounts about.

I guess you guys aren't familiar with his Dad and manager. Both are pros at bragging and leaking things to the media in an unprofessional manner, mainly to the detriment of KP.

 

[Desert Qlder]

Chris Garry has been embedded with the manager and family, producing a slew of reports for Channel Seven in Brisbane. He was the first to publish the deal.

 

[Desert Qlder]

Cowboys fans on LU are doing a great job at biting their tongues and/or being good sports for the most part, although it's clear and obvious there is salt. A quick glance at the recruitment thread on the Cowboys Stampede reveals the true feelings up north, though. The butthurt is very intense. Props to butch for being a voice of reason over there. Many of your compatriots willing to throw the kid under the bus or just bitch about our club in frustration.

To be honest I have no love for the Cowboys, the way they have cried and whinged in the past about things like the Snowden "shoulder charge" and NSW conspiracies makes it hard for me to feel anything other than schadenfreude.

The main gripe fo Cowboys fans has been the pressure from Ponga's management and family for the Cowboys to release him next year. Most feel that he should honour his contract with our club.

Perfectly reasonable.

Otherwise they have wished him well in getting such a huge deal.

 

[some11]

Wayne has offered adoption, its all over Knights fans.

Bunking with Darius is hard to turn down.

 

[butchmcdick]

All signs point to it. The Knights haven't confirmed anything. Pongas camp haven't said anything. But Paul Green has already come out and said Ponga has signed. And the QLD papers have been the ones throwing dollar amounts about.

Sigh

One qld paper based a few thousand km away which owns a fair chunk or a team that was chasing ponga pretty hard

Say you're right, what possible advantage do we get from making his new salary public if we want to keep him ?

Ponga: guys I've signed with the Knights for 3.5 million

Cowboys let the courier mail know

Ponga: oh gee, now you've made my salary public I better reconsider things and stay here. I wasn't going to but everything has changed now. I'm happy to stay with a club that's made things uncomfortable for me and my family. I have no other options, no other clubs want me

 

[perverse]

I thought there were rules around this that Pongas only options once a contract was signed would be to backflip for his current club or to honor the new contract. Not sure where I got this impression, maybe the rules have been amended or this applies to a different set of circumstances... but I thought it came up during the DCE saga.

If that is the case, then it would take Brisbane out of the equation entirely. If someone could correct me if I'm wrong, or give me an idea of why I think this, it'd be appreciated. I feel like we've been here before and the aforementioned rule was the result to try and stop the circus. I'm surprised no-one has mentioned anything to this effect yet, makes me think I dreamed it up entirely. Entirely possible. Maybe the cooling off period replaced that rule? Bleh I'm fuzzy on it at best, but had been operating under the assumption that it was down to Cowboys or Knights now.

Edit - nevermind it's starting to come to me now. The above was when we had the stupid June 30 shit going on. Carry on people.

 

[davi]

Excellent article on some of the young players who fell through the cracks with their teams in the NRL. To be fair though some of them did not get a massive offer like Ponga, but instead moved to a different club for a better opportunity in terms of playing first grade football which their club would live to regret.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...b/news-story/2c3ca2e33488c5f6e9ab6403f62b0c2f

 

[MilkShark]

The Ponga deal is a direct result of lack of talent within the competition due to:

A) no reserve grade competition
B) too many interchanges keeping the younger and / or smaller more talented players out of the teams

 

[Canard]

The Ponga deal is a direct result of lack of talent within the competition due to:

A) no reserve grade competition
B) too many interchanges keeping the younger and / or smaller more talented players out of the teams

That bow is drawn very long.

 

[Fufu Andronez]

Word is he's about to reneg and re-sign with cowboys just sorting out the final details

Lol well played

 

[Canard]

For those not aware the CMs motto when created in 1880 is 'All things Broncos, All the time"

For example, the day after 911 they ran a 4 page spread on how various Broncos reserve graders were reacting. The section on Sid Domic was especially moving.

The remainder of paper was about how it might affect their salary cap.

The Cowboys were first mentioned in a 3 line paragraph the day of the 2005 GF, as "that team off the TV that once played the Broncos".

 

[Spot On]

You would hope an NRL first grade fullback would standout a little more than part time footballers.

The Ponga deal is a direct result of lack of talent within the competition due to:

A) no reserve grade competition
B) too many interchanges keeping the younger and / or smaller more talented players out of the teams

I do believe there is some truth to this.

 

[Noname36]

Although I'm a Knights fan there is some Skeepe-level paranoia in here.

If anyone leaked contract details it was probably the kids manager in hopes of making the likes of the Cowboys and Brisbane throw even more money at him.

Hey if it suddenly makes the Cowboys find an extra few hundred thousand and punt Coote so Ponga can play fullback then cool, we'll sign Coote.

The kid seems to like the Knights though beyond the money - if an angry Qld media smear campaign is enough to wipe all those factors away then he wasn't that committed to the deal to begin with. I don't think people are giving him enough credit to see it - and even if he can't I'm sure he's got parents and a manager that will tell him he's an idiot if he renigs on more money and a chance to play fullback at a club he liked just because of some mean articles by some gutter journo.

 

[AJB1102]

Ponga is what? 18? Unless the Courier Mail is on his social media timeline I doubt he's flicking through the paper over brekky to give a shit what they write.

 

[Eion]

Who names their son Kayln?

 

[davi]

Kalyn Ponga is he worth it? You be the judge. These are highlights in Holden Cup though, where bruising defense is not exactly the norm.

 

[butchmcdick]

Kalyn Ponga is he worth it? You be the judge. These are highlights in Holden Cup though, where bruising defense is not exactly the norm.

Mate if Holden cup form translated into NRL form every player that ever played for the Warriors would be immortals

 

[I Bleed Maroon]

Ten bucks says Brisbane will offer Ponga a ten year deal on beer money and he'll take it over the Knights.

:lol: And where are we gonna play him, genius