rank the nrl fullbacks

[ANTiLAG]

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Just a taste of what he could do...

3.42 makes Jack his bit*h

 

[Loudstrat]

Without injury and in his 04-05 form, he'd be probably incumbent till maybe sometime in the last 2 years, and looked on as one of the all time greats.

Mini's injury opened the door for Brett Stewart (and cutie - who was never in the ballpark for this discussion anyway). If Snake never got injured, he would be incumbent, and looked on as probably the greatest. He'd be up around 190 FG games, and if he maintained his try scoring rate of 80% - would eclipse Irvine's record at around 270 games.

Injuries to Mini and Snake, and the exodus of cutie, opened the door for Slater.


Still, to claim GI is the 2nd best fullback after what, 4 games in the last 8 years - is lunacy. Give him a season at least - and see him wear a 1 rep jumper - before that call is made.

EDIT: I'd put Stater as the best fullback I have seen from QLD. Slater is up there with the best I have seen - being Eadie, Jack, Belcher, Mini and Snake. Its still a massive call to put him in the Langlands/Churchill class. Both created epic decisive plays in grand finals and captained Australia to epic Ashes wins. Read about Langlands gathering a kick over the touchline and seting up a GF winning try - a lot different to running of crisp passes from Cronk/JT/Heather.

 

[Mr Fourex]

Still, to claim GI is the 2nd best fullback after what, 4 games in the last 8 years - is lunacy. Give him a season at least - and see him wear a 1 rep jumper - before that call is made.

You might need to get out of the hospital more, he has been playing there since R3

.......and played more than a handful at fullback for the Storm.

He's actually pretty used to playing fullback tbh.

 

[Loudstrat]

Yeah had a look....couple of decent posts from you.....good call on McGrady.....absolute freak and let's not foget he won a Rothmans.

On the fullback subject, I was surprised Lockyer wasn't in more sides....as much as I love Mini, Lockyer is the best I have seen at the back....no one really mentioned Gary Jack as the top defensive FB either....again, I've never seen better as a defender at the back.

Jack was a supreme defender - best defensive fullback at test level.

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Just a taste of what he could do...

3.42 makes Jack his bit*h

And that means Jack was crap?

What do you make of this?

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[ANTiLAG]

Jack was a supreme defender - best defensive fullback at test level.


And that means Jack was crap?

What do you make of this?

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No - you're not following the posts accurately. It means McGrady could play!

Read my post for all time greats. Jack makes my list for fullbacks.

What I make of that is that it is Billy Slater's most famous WTF?! moment for the green and gold. Try to take on 4 Kiwi defenders on the outside on the touchline?! WTF?! Throw a pass when there is 4 Kiwis there WTF?!That is how you lose the world cup but still get player of the tournament and golden boot. WTF?! As opposed to GI's most famous WTF?! moment for Australia where Gasnier scores. Slater is NOT on my list for greatest fullbacks.

Inglis so much greater than Slater at rep level albeit in different positions. You'd never consider dropping Inglis from rep teams. Slater - well he's given way for Bowen and Hunt over the years, just off the top of my head!

 

[Loudstrat]

You might need to get out of the hospital more, he has been playing there since R3

.......and played more than a handful at fullback for the Storm.

He's actually pretty used to playing fullback tbh.

Yeah? 16 games at fullback for Melbourne, and only one since August 2006?

So experienced! Yes, you are right - round 3 for Souths - and he took his time to find his feet there too. Been great in the last few games though.

If that puts him ahead of Slater than A half decent performance by Dugan at pivot would have him in front of Heather and Wally, right?

 

[typicalfan]

I love the imagine if Slater/Smith/Cronk didn't play for Melbourne arguments. So baseless and so stupid.

And because GI has played a few good games for Souths at fullback he is now better than Slater. That is hyperbole at its best. That is worse than Rabs saying Slater is better than Chang and the Little Master combined. at least Slater has the runs on the board.

 

[ANTiLAG]

It doesn't take a lot to get past Heather at 5/8th in my view

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3.30 of Lockyer gold.

 

[ANTiLAG]

I love the imagine if Slater/Smith/Cronk didn't play for Melbourne arguments. So baseless and so stupid.

And because GI has played a few good games for Souths at fullback he is now better than Slater. That is hyperbole at its best. That is worse than Rabs saying Slater is better than Chang and the Little Master combined. at least Slater has the runs on the board.

To be clear - I'm not suggesting GI is BETTER than Slater at FB yet.

I am suggesting, contrary to Cliffhanger and some other poster, that Slater IS NOT ALL THAT AND A BAG OF CHIPS and that GI has had a much better career at rep level.

 

[typicalfan]

I think people talk down Slater far too easily. It is probably a response to certain commentators talking him up so regularly.

Slater has had a pretty red hot rep career apart from a few gaffes which are his downside no doubt, without them he would just about be the perfect fullback. His influence in the green and gold is as high as it gets. But his strength no doubt is his consistency he plays great games probably 90-95% of the time, there are fullbacks that play as good as him maybe once a month or two like Bowen and Barba, others will get on a run but then fall into periods where they are less effective like Hayne.

Inglis has had a few average rep games, but in general he is difficult to contain. He doesn't have the week in week out consistency but that is to be expected. He has to prove that first IMO

 

[Big Pete]

Mini's injury opened the door for Brett Stewart (and cutie - who was never in the ballpark for this discussion anyway). If Snake never got injured, he would be incumbent, and looked on as probably the greatest. He'd be up around 190 FG games, and if he maintained his try scoring rate of 80% - would eclipse Irvine's record at around 270 games.

That's genuine revisionist history.

If Hunt wasn't in the frame, then Stewart was a complete non-thought & only the most ardent Manly supporter would say otherwise. No, Hunt's true competition was between the two recent grand finalists: Brett Hodgson & Matt Bowen. Both had form concerns and didn't have a magic combination with 6. D Lockyer. Mind you, the selection definitely came as a surprise. At the time, I thought it was just a political decision designed to shut the Broncos up as they were upset with the snubbing of Hodges. Regardless, it proved to be the right call & Hunt never disappointed at the back at rep.

B. Stewart's one and only Test match came in 2007 when both Bowen & Hunt were unavailable. He was lucky to be there over the (then) premiership winning fullback but it was a harmless one off test. Christ, even Covell played that Test! Billy took the jersey straight back in 2008 on the wave of some incredible form & apart from getting his revenge in a Grand Final, Stewart was never superior than him.

 

[Mr Fourex]

If that puts him ahead of Slater than A half decent performance by Dugan at pivot would have him in front of Heather and Wally, right?

No-one...or at least I never said he was better than Slater.

You were dribbling on about Inglis only having played 4 games at fullback

which was wrong.

 

[Loudstrat]

4 extra games does not change anything. He is far from being near Slater, whether he has played 5 games in the last 5 years or 9 you f*cking mental nuffy.

Besides, his last minute at fullback was hardly better than Zillman at his most average!

 

[Loudstrat]

That's genuine revisionist history.

If Hunt wasn't in the frame, then Stewart was a complete non-thought & only the most ardent Manly supporter would say otherwise. No, Hunt's true competition was between the two recent grand finalists: Brett Hodgson & Matt Bowen. Both had form concerns and didn't have a magic combination with 6. D Lockyer. Mind you, the selection definitely came as a surprise. At the time, I thought it was just a political decision designed to shut the Broncos up as they were upset with the snubbing of Hodges. Regardless, it proved to be the right call & Hunt never disappointed at the back at rep.

You are right that cutie was selected to shut Brisbane up, because no way was he the best fullback at that time. Bowen was never going to be picked because he was too small, and mainly because of the Hunt fan club that saw him wear the Maroon jumper ahead of Bowen. We all remember the whinging of Maroon fans south of the tropics about Bowen. Hodgeson was never in the test frame anyway

B. Stewart's one and only Test match came in 2007 when both Bowen & Hunt were unavailable. He was lucky to be there over the (then) premiership winning fullback but it was a harmless one off test. Christ, even Covell played that Test!

A harmless test? Was it billed that way you muppet? Was the Kangaroos squad weaker because the Kiwis picked Covell? Or maybe the 58-0 scoreline reflected a difference in the squads strengths you reckon?

Billy took the jersey straight back in 2008 on the wave of some incredible form & apart from getting his revenge in a Grand Final, Stewart was never superior than him.

Stewart was clearly the form fullback of 2008, and was selected for the national squad before he withdrew from injury. There was no way Slater was going to wear the 1 jumper with Snake fully fit on that tour.

You are basically saying Slater was superior to Snake in the 2008 finals. :lol: Snake was the face of the game for the 2009 season launch, not Billy. And we saw how brilliant Billy was compared to Snake v NZ. 58-0 to setting up the match winner for Benji - all due to a change of fullback.

Anyway, we will never know, because that was the start of Snake's horror few years. And Slater was knee deep in benefiting from playing with an illegally assembled squad.

 

[DC_fan]

I am suggesting, contrary to Cliffhanger and some other poster, that Slater IS NOT ALL THAT AND A BAG OF CHIPS and that GI has had a much better career at rep level.

Inglis has had a much better career at rep level, you say.

Let's see now.

At test level Inglis has played three more tests, 21 to Slaters 18. Inglis has scored 19 tries compared to Slaters 18.

In Origin, Inglis has played 16 games and scored 12 tries. Slater has played 18 games and scored 11 tries. Both players have been named man of the match once in an origin game.

Both players have won the Golden Boot Award.

Yes I can see why you would say Inlis has had the much better rep career.

 

[H.H]

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Just a taste of what he could do...

3.42 makes Jack his bit*h

Wow.....seriously, a freak talent.

Brought back some memories actually....I remeber her had a great combination with Lamb.....and also with Jonathan Davies that year (1991 I think).....and another thing that didn't show apart from some glimpes was that he could really ball play too....hence the combo with Davies.

Didn't like tackling much though, but so good to watch.

 

[ANTiLAG]

Inglis has had a much better career at rep level, you say.

Let's see now.

At test level Inglis has played three more tests, 21 to Slaters 18. Inglis has scored 19 tries compared to Slaters 18.

In Origin, Inglis has played 16 games and scored 12 tries. Slater has played 18 games and scored 11 tries. Both players have been named man of the match once in an origin game.

Both players have won the Golden Boot Award.

Yes I can see why you would say Inlis has had the much better rep career.

Inglis has never been dropped by Queensland. Billy has. Inglis has never been benched. Billy has.

Inglis played for Australia, in only his second year of playing, took Billy 6 years to crack that and with some luck regards injuries.

Billy choked in the World Cup. Golden Boot? Pffft.

How many tries has Inglis gifted Boyd at origin?

GI > Billy.

 

[Big Pete]

Bowen was never going to be picked because he was too small, and mainly because of the Hunt fan club that saw him wear the Maroon jumper ahead of Bowen. We all remember the whinging of Maroon fans south of the tropics about Bowen. Hodgeson was never in the test frame anyway

Which again, says more than what you can say about B. Stewart at the time.

Matt Bowen didn't make it because Sticky exposed him in a club game prior. Mal thought bull s**t until he saw it himself first hand in Game 1. He brings Hunt in for Game 2 & voila Queensland start playing their best footy since the 80s.

A harmless test? Was it billed that way you muppet? Was the Kangaroos squad weaker because the Kiwis picked Covell? Or maybe the 58-0 scoreline reflected a difference in the squads strengths you reckon?

A one off test with nothing up for grabs. Sounds pretty harmless to me.

No the Australian squad was weaker because it was mostly second string. Hell, they were so desperate they rushed Gaz back in and he didn't do s**t in 2007. Dallas Johnson, Bird @ five eigth, 18 year old Folau the list goes on for that mickey mouse test.

Stewart was clearly the form fullback of 2008, and was selected for the national squad before he withdrew from injury. There was no way Slater was going to wear the 1 jumper with Snake fully fit on that tour.

Who was it clear to? You, Manly supporters and a few NSWRL fanboys?

Dally M & Golden Boot judges certainly thought differently & they're not alone either. Slater was the superstar of Melbourne in '08 & while he needed his hand held in Origin that year (Stewart did too) he proved the difference in that arena, unlike Stewart.

Shoulda, woulda, coulda.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Gee Hayne has some haters out there look at the stats and his games this year. The guy is the second best behind slater !!!

 

[Loudstrat]

Which again, says more than what you can say about B. Stewart at the time.

Except Hodgeson was incumbent blues fullback and was playing with the premiers :roll:

Matt Bowen didn't make it because Sticky exposed him in a club game prior. Mal thought bull s**t until he saw it himself first hand in Game 1. He brings Hunt in for Game 2 & voila Queensland start playing their best footy since the 80s.

That's ignoring all the cutie v Bowen traffic on LU at the time :lol:

A one off test with nothing up for grabs. Sounds pretty harmless to me.

Which the selectors purposely chose the worst players for - righto. :roll:

That mickey mouse side but 58 on a side which won the f*cking World Cup when they picked an allegedly serious side, with Slater in it?

No the Australian squad was weaker because it was mostly second string. Hell, they were so desperate they rushed Gaz back in and he didn't do s**t in 2007. Dallas Johnson, Bird @ five eigth, 18 year old Folau the list goes on for that mickey mouse test.

Since when have test selectors NOT picked what they thought was the best available? Just because Slater wasnt there doesnt mean everyone gave up and picked the side out of a hat!!!

Who was it clear to? You, Manly supporters and a few NSWRL fanboys?

And the 4 or so million that watched 40-0. FFS Melbourne played Cronulla the week before - who has Luke Covell in it ffs. Must have been a mickey mouse semi final :crazy:

But yes, the Dally M proves Slater was the best. The same Dally M that awards the rookie of the year to two season 'veterans', and the top position awards to players who didnt get the most points in that position. :lol:

Slater was hardly a world beater in that finals series, unlike the previous two.