rank the nrl fullbacks

[Loudstrat]

Anyway, this might cheer you up

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Bob Cooper at his best. :lol:

 

[Big Pete]

Except Hodgeson was incumbent blues fullback and was playing with the premiers :roll:

Last time I checked the ANZAC Test occurred before Origin. However, playing for the Blues certainly cemented that Hodgson was ahead of B. Stewart in the pecking order. Again, proving your point wrong.

That's ignoring all the cutie v Bowen traffic on LU at the time :lol:

I didn't know Mal read LU.

Besides, that occurred in 2007.

Phil really didn't take that selection well.

That mickey mouse side but 58 on a side which won the f*cking World Cup when they picked an allegedly serious side, with Slater in it?

NZ were taught a lesson and they well and truly aced the exam.

Bringing in Bennett was the smartest thing they did.

Since when have test selectors NOT picked what they thought was the best available? Just because Slater wasnt there doesnt mean everyone gave up and picked the side out of a hat!!!

Since 2006 apparently when Hunt was selected. >_> <_<

And the 4 or so million that watched 40-0. FFS Melbourne played Cronulla the week before - who has Luke Covell in it ffs. Must have been a mickey mouse semi final :crazy:

One game.

Slater completely outplayed Stewart in the 07 GF. Didn't earn him an Australian jersey either.

But yes, the Dally M proves Slater was the best. The same Dally M that awards the rookie of the year to two season 'veterans', and the top position awards to players who didnt get the most points in that position. :lol:

Isn't their fault you don't know the rules about rookies.

But again, if it was clear, then why did Slater earn these awards? Why did he make so many team of 2008 over Stewart? Is it because, it wasn't as clear as you claim?

Slater was hardly a world beater in that finals series, unlike the previous two.

Billy is the reason they made the Grand Final, otherwise they would have bid farewell in Week 2.

 

[typicalfan]

Billy choked in a world cup just like Darren Lockyer. I guess Billy is only as good as Darren and neither are as good as GI right. But Billy and Darren have won their respective teams more games than GI with ease and maybe more than he ever will. They play in the crucial spine positions. It is the good work of guys like Billy and Darren that allow players like Inglis to shine.

Billy has been at the peak of his powers since the start of 2008 with a few crucial errors in between. Comparing two players in different positions is difficult. How can you compare a centre to a fullback based on the amount of games he has played or times he has been dropped. Billy plays the crucial position of fullback where only one can be selected. He got over the top of guys like Hunt, Bowen, Stewart etc based on what he did on the field. Inglis didn't have those guys to contend with. Inglis has been schooled before at rep level as well, definitely not perfect.

 

[ANTiLAG]

No the Australian squad was weaker because it was mostly second string. Hell, they were so desperate they rushed Gaz back in and he didn't do s**t in 2007. Dallas Johnson, Bird @ five eigth, 18 year old Folau the list goes on for that mickey mouse test.

What you smoking? Second String? JT and Lockyer out don't make it automatically second string.

1. Brett Stewart GF
2. Israel Folau GF
3. Mark Gasnier
4. Greg Inglis GF
5. Jarryd Hayne
6. Greg Bird
7. Cooper Cronk GF
8. Steve Price
9. Cameron Smith GF
10. Petero Civoniceva
11. Nathan Hindmarsh
12. Ryan Hoffman GF
13. Dallas Johnson GF
Subs:
14. Brent Kite GF
15. Kurt Gidley
16. Willie Mason
17. Michael Crocker GF

Bird was the incumbent NSW five/8 or you forget his MOTM in origin 3? Who'd you want at 5/8? Inglis? Anasta? I mean really. Bird at 5/8 proves nothing.

Israel Folau was the rookie of the year and the seasons top try scorer.

Storm dominated selection thus DJ and Hoffmann as Grand Final winners do for post season play.

Pretty clear Stewart was chosen over Slater if Slater was not injured.

It was however, an awful NZ line up. Jeremy Smith and Ben Roberts as the halves.
I admit that the game was over before it started.

 

[Big Pete]

Neither Hunt, Hodges, King, Tate, Lockyer, Thurston, Bailey or Berrigan were available. Plenty of incumbents missing to lay such a claim.

Gallen also pulled out late.

Unsure if Slater pulled out due to injury or not. Think he was snubbed because Stuart made a point about selecting rookies & rewarding Origin.

And it's not so much I have a problem with Bird. It just illustrates JT & Lockyer were missing.

 

[ANTiLAG]

Neither Hunt, Hodges, King, Tate, Lockyer, Thurston, Bailey or Berrigan were available. Plenty of incumbents missing to lay such a claim.

Gallen also pulled out late.

Unsure if Slater pulled out due to injury or not. Think he was snubbed because Stuart made a point about selecting rookies & rewarding Origin.

And it's not so much I have a problem with Bird. It just illustrates JT & Lockyer were missing.

King and Berrigan were England bound. ARL seem to have a policy of non-selection on that stuff. Bailey would've been on the bench at best! Tate and Hunt were a long time injured, but really, you think Folau and Gas make a team second string? C'mon Pete. I personally wouldn't insult the player that played in that game by saying they were second string at the time. Especially Gas and Folau.

 

[Big Pete]

I'm aware of why they were unavailable I'm just proving that Stewart wasn't selected in the strongest Australian side.

Gasnier @ full strength is one of the most talented players of all time. Gasnier who barely played a quarter of the season...not so much. Aussie selectors were desperate there. But hey, he proved a good target. Rendered NZ to 12.

With all that said, the Big League article is very telling.

 

[Loudstrat]

Last time I checked the ANZAC Test occurred before Origin. However, playing for the Blues certainly cemented that Hodgson was ahead of B. Stewart in the pecking order. Again, proving your point wrong.

Was the Centenary Test a nothing test as well?

I didn't know Mal read LU.

I doubt if he could read at all!

NZ were taught a lesson and they well and truly aced the exam.

Bringing in Bennett was the smartest thing they did.

Yet Bennet never gave them the victory. Slater did :lol:

One game.

No, one finals series remember.

Slater completely outplayed Stewart in the 07 GF. Didn't earn him an Australian jersey either.

No. Slater and Crocker outBASHED Stewart in the final. When the game was in the balance. If they didnt launch their act of thuggery, they dont win by the same margin -if at all. Simple.

Isn't their fault you don't know the rules about rookies.

So, by their rules, is Nathan Hindmarsh a rookie ffs?

What about the counting thing?

But again, if it was clear, then why did Slater earn these awards?

Duh - already explained.

Why did he make so many team of 2008 over Stewart? Is it because, it wasn't as clear as you claim?

Stewart was so far ahead of everyone in the back end of 08 it wasnt funny. If Slater was fuch a genius, how come he let by a GF equalling record number of tries? Langlands in 75 couldnt feel his legs. Slater, according to you, was in peak form. Peak for a f*cking turnstile maybe!

Billy is the reason they made the Grand Final, otherwise they would have bid farewell in Week 2.

That's an admission. All you lot have been doing is blaming Ashton Simms! Actually, two things got Melbourne to the GF. Sika Manu's big hit leading to GI's try, and the worst Cronulla performance in their semi final history a week later.

Great period for Slater - Billy the turnstile and Billy the Kiwi playmaker :lol:

 

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Loudstrat i might be remembering incorrectly but at the end of 2008 Stewart was selected as the number 1 Aus fullback and Slater stepped in due to injury?

If i am correct then perhaps you could say Aus fielded a second string team who went on to lose the World Cup final hahaha nah but in all seriousness its a tough call to say Slater completely outplayed Stewart in the 07 grand final....i mean before Brett got knocked out he did get to play 41 odd minutes and the score was a lot more respectable at 10-4 :lol:

 

[typicalfan]

It is a shame about B Stewart, he is no where near where he was in 2008, he is still getting his confidence back despite already winning a premiership. But he has it in patches. That great piece of play to put Oldfield in for his third try last night was sublime. He always seems to save his pace for slipping into the backline on set plays to create the extra man.

 

[Big Pete]

Was the Centenary Test a nothing test as well?

While I don't think highly of the ANZAC Test match, it holds more merit than that Trans Tasman test match as more players are available and made available by their clubs.

So, by their rules, is Nathan Hindmarsh a rookie ffs?

No, educate yourself.

All you lot have been doing is blaming Ashton Simms!

Maybe those with anti NSW Broncos agendas maybe.

Slater scored with a player in the bin and then denied a try. Game changers both plays.

The only thing that's clear is that you were wrong about Stewart being 'clearly' being better than Slater. Plenty of others disagree.

But continue your attempts at being 'funny'. Some member out there must appreciate it.

 

[ANTiLAG]

Billy choked in a world cup just like Darren Lockyer.

You say this cos of the video I posted, right?

No - see Nine don't focus that Heather Lockyer play on replay, but what they do show on replay got Darren MOTM. Yes-despite a performance like that, you watched the vid right, on a losing side to boot, he got MOTM. Sums up D Lockyer's career at 5/8th for mine.

How he could accept the award is just beyond me.

 

[ANTiLAG]

I'm aware of why they were unavailable I'm just proving that Stewart wasn't selected in the strongest Australian side.

Gasnier @ full strength is one of the most talented players of all time. Gasnier who barely played a quarter of the season...not so much. Aussie selectors were desperate there. But hey, he proved a good target. Rendered NZ to 12.

With all that said, the Big League article is very telling.

I have not read any Big League artcile and you're definitely not proving that the side selected WAS NOT the strongest side from players available.

 

[Aragorn]

what?

 

[Loudstrat]

I'm aware of why they were unavailable I'm just proving that Stewart wasn't selected in the strongest Australian side.

Bullsh*t. You reckoned the selectors treated it as a mickey mouse test - and used the selection of Gasnier and Folau to back it up.. Hipocrite!

Gasnier @ full strength is one of the most talented players of all time. Gasnier who barely played a quarter of the season...not so much. Aussie selectors were desperate there. But hey, he proved a good target. Rendered NZ to 12.

They still selected the best available you brainless gimp!

Loudstrat i might be remembering incorrectly but at the end of 2008 Stewart was selected as the number 1 Aus fullback and Slater stepped in due to injury?

Of course you remember correctly. Snake was unstoppable in that finals series. Manly were always going to win - no one came within a bulls roar of them. Including Pete's all time great Billy and his cheating salary cap advantaged club, who'se roster was at least $1 million more valuable than Manly's.

To think that Matt f*cking Orford orchestrated 8 players to whizz past Slater in the GF, including a pensioner, a prop, a hooker, a winger with a stupid face and a bloke whose favorite passtine is to pretend that his dick is a helicopter - THREE TIMES :lol:

If i am correct then perhaps you could say Aus fielded a second string team who went on to lose the World Cup final hahaha nah but in all seriousness its a tough call to say Slater completely outplayed Stewart in the 07 grand final....i mean before Brett got knocked out he did get to play 41 odd minutes and the score was a lot more respectable at 10-4 :lol:

Poor old Pete has had a few head knocks.............

Slaters best GF display by far was in 06.

 

[Michael Bishop]

1. Slater
2. Inglis
3. Hayne
4. Stewart
5. Barba
6. Dugan
7. Bowen
8. Morris
9. Hoffman
10. Boyd
11. Locke
12. Coote
13. Minichello
14. Moltzen
15. Gardner
16. Zillman

 

[Loudstrat]

While I don't think highly of the ANZAC Test match, it holds more merit than that Trans Tasman test match as more players are available and made available by their clubs.

Yeah? When ever has a club stopped a player from playing for Australia you f*cking dingbat?

 

[Big Pete]

You say this cos of the video I posted, right?

No - see Nine don't focus that Heather Lockyer play on replay, but what they do show on replay got Darren MOTM. Yes-despite a performance like that, you watched the vid right, on a losing side to boot, he got MOTM. Sums up D Lockyer's career at 5/8th for mine.

How he could accept the award is just beyond me.

You'll find Lockyer's autobiography interesting then.

I have not read any Big League artcile and you're definitely not proving that the side selected WAS NOT the strongest side from players available.

I'm referring to my line about Sticky wanting Origin players. It came courtesy of Big League's 07 Review.

And I didn't say anything about availability. Just period.

Bullsh*t. You reckoned the selectors treated it as a mickey mouse test - and used the selection of Gasnier and Folau to back it up.. Hipocrite!

They used it as an opportunity to blood rookies, which Ricky stressed.

They still selected the best available you brainless gimp!

Just like when Hunt made his debut.

Including Pete's all time great Billy

You don't know me at all.

Loudstrat i might be remembering incorrectly but at the end of 2008 Stewart was selected as the number 1 Aus fullback and Slater stepped in due to injury?

He made the squad but was never announced in any sides.

I'm aware Stewart was knocked out. But Slater still clearly was the better player on the night.

Strat, I actually agree Slater's best GF performance was 06. That doesn't have anything to do with him having a better showing than B. Stewart.

Strat, you obviously don't pay attention to the mass amount of players who pull out of every post season Test. You'd be naive to think clubs don't have a say.

 

[ANTiLAG]

You'll find Lockyer's autobiography interesting then.

Why?

I'm referring to my line about Sticky wanting Origin players. It came courtesy of Big League's 07 Review.

Because Australia typically selects non-origin players for its test matches. Of course he wanted origin players and he got origin players. Who on that team hadn't played origin? The new superstar Folau?! Or the two time grand finalist, including one win Cooper Cronk!?

And I didn't say anything about availability. Just period.

This is crap and you know it. Ooh 2 players injured, its not the A team, its a team of second stringers. If its the best team available, its the best team. Injuries do not make it second string, resting all your first picks, like on a tour, would make it second string.

They used it as an opportunity to blood rookies, which Ricky stressed.

Thought he wanted origin players? You mean test rookies who were origin hardened and/or grand final winners? Oooh such noobies. Big gamble there.

 

[Big Pete]

Why?



Because Australia typically selects non-origin players for its test matches. Of course he wanted origin players and he got origin players. Who on that team hadn't played origin? The new superstar Folau?! Or the two time grand finalist, including one win Cooper Cronk!?

This is crap and you know it. Ooh 2 players injured, its not the A team, its a team of second stringers.



Thought he wanted origin players? You mean test rookies who were origin hardened and/or grand final winners? Oooh such noobies. Big gamble there.

He has some interesting insight on the World Cup final. You'll appreciate it.

It's not about who was on the side, but who wasn't. Who are the two players we're talking about here Lag?

2 players? You've been hanging with Loudy too long. 8 players I listed and when you throw in Bowen & Gallen it becomes 10. I doubt it ends there.

He wanted both.

New Kangaroos who all had fair claims.

But no promises of commitment.

A lot like Gibsons 89 Origin approach.