Rd10 2024: 8pm Eels v Broncos GAME DAY THREAD @ Commbank 10th May

[Suitman]

Gutho to No 9?
I just don't get that idea at all.
Honestly.

 

[JokerEel]

Gutho to No 9?
I just don't get that idea at all.
Honestly.

Me either he will go from making bugger all tackles a game to having to make 30-40 plus lead the line speed...

I get he can attack that's great but there are other elements.

 

[hindy111]

Your telling me the bunker missed the fact Mam changed his line after he passed the ball to Walsh to prevent simmonson the opportunity to run down Walsh.

He shifted 100% on purpose but it was just enough to put Simmo out of stride and not enough to penalise.
Simmonson gets bagged. He has a huge heart. Chased down plenty of guys this season. He busted 11 tackles last night. He should be signed up.

 

[emjaycee]

Gutho to No 9?
I just don't get that idea at all.
Honestly.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think its his best position but I think his days as a #1 are pretty close to being over as he has already lost speed and this latest injury isnt going to make him quicker.
Where else would he be suited to?
Too slow for centre, too small for lock, and not worth shifting Dylan for.
Besides, he would have to be a better option than Lussick right?

 

[emjaycee]

He shifted 100% on purpose but it was just enough to put Simmo out of stride and not enough to penalise.
Simmonson gets bagged. He has a huge heart. Chased down plenty of guys this season. He busted 11 tackles last night. He should be signed up.

I liked how we was developing into a centre last year, but to be honest I prefer him on the wing which is where he has played 80% of his first grade football.

 

[Suitman]

Don't get me wrong, I don't think its his best position but I think his days as a #1 are pretty close to being over as he has already lost speed and this latest injury isnt going to make him quicker.
Where else would he be suited to?
Too slow for centre, too small for lock, and not worth shifting Dylan for.
Besides, he would have to be a better option than Lussick right?

Retirement and a coaching role.
It is time for change.
Serious change.
How would a washed up aging injury prone fullback improve our squad being converted to a 9 which requires 2 x the work rate improve our squad?
It's no wonder we haven't won a comp for almost 40 years with thoughts like that.

 

[emjaycee]

Retirement and a coaching role.
It is time for change.
Serious change.

Unless its a medical retirement I cant see him at least not finishing his current contract.
So where do we put him?
Supersub at 14?

 

[Suitman]

Unless its a medical retirement I cant see him at least not finishing his current contract.
So where do we put him?
Supersub at 14?

I edited my post while you were replying.
Sorry mate.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Sivo and Gutherson in particular pick out a player to run at from kick returns. Never run between defenders. I dare say they are always chasing the collision.

Since there's rarely any real pass threat to draw defenders away, I'd say those sorts of runs are about winning the play-the-ball, or at least not losing it too badly.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

When we announced the Lorax signing

 

[emjaycee]

Retirement and a coaching role.
It is time for change.
Serious change.
How would a washed up aging injury prone fullback improve our squad being converted to a 9 which requires 2 x the work rate improve our squad?
It's no wonder we haven't won a comp for almost 40 years with thoughts like that.

Is he really injury prone though?
He has a bad knee sure, but this is his biggest injury out since 2018 I think.
And he is the most dedicated Eels player since Price, so not sure the work rate would be an issue.

 

[Noise]

Since there's rarely any real pass threat to draw defenders away, I'd say those sorts of runs are about winning the play-the-ball, or at least not losing it too badly.

Maybe, but they are definitely chasing the collision on those kick returns. They use no footwork. I reckon they would each win the play the ball more (or not lose it too badly) if they evaded / ran between 2 defenders. Gutho isn;t powerful enough to run over merkins and Sivo returns it at a snails pace into defenders so he doesn;t get quick play the balls either

 

[Parra Pride]

Sivo and Gutherson in particular pick out a player to run at from kick returns. Never run between defenders. I dare say they are always chasing the collision.

Sivo is more of a brisk power walk at a defender.

 

[Parra Pride]

I liked how we was developing into a centre last year, but to be honest I prefer him on the wing which is where he has played 80% of his first grade football.

I don’t mind him in either spot, he’s just always going to be that extra guy. If we are persisting with Blaine at fullback he’s not beating either Lomax or The Penis for a centre spot, which leaves a wing and both of those should be open for contention. Ideally Sivo is sent to the glue factory, Simmonson and Russell on the wings isn’t the worst thing outside Lomax and The Penis. We just need Lomax to break the tradition of hyped signings coming here and playing shit…

 

[TheCrowe]

The possitive was we played expansive and took the game to them. Execution was poor

Lussick and Lane need a spell in reserves. We joke about little Boods but if he is physically ready thrown him in otherwise Hands. Lussick is to slow.

They did lose their hooker early keep in mind. And at 20mins we had so much ball and nothing to show.

Smoothy is a better hooker then Walters.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Maybe, but they are definitely chasing the collision on those kick returns. They use no footwork. I reckon they would each win the play the ball more (or not lose it too badly) if they evaded / ran between 2 defenders. Gutho isn;t powerful enough to run over merkins and Sivo returns it at a snails pace into defenders so he doesn;t get quick play the balls either

Without late footwork they're going to be running straight at defenders because the defenders (multiple of them) are getting their bodies in front. Trying to run around them just open them up to contact from the side which will lead to being tackled facing the sideline at best, and his own tryline at worst.

 

[Suitman]

Is he really injury prone though?
He has a bad knee sure, but this is his biggest injury out since 2018 I think.
And he is the most dedicated Eels player since Price, so not sure the work rate would be an issue.

True.
Look, I love Gutho and his passion.
He's just seemingly getting to a stage of his career where he is not a game changer for our club.

 

[Noise]

Without late footwork they're going to be running straight at defenders

Yea so use some late footwork.

. Trying to run around them just open them up to contact from the side which will lead to being tackled facing the sideline at best, and his own tryline at worst.

Sivo faces his own tryline often. He backs into the defender a lot.
And I don’t want them running sideways , just aim between two defenders instead of at one defenders torso.

 

[emjaycee]

True.
Look, I love Gutho and his passion.
He's just seemingly getting to a stage of his career where he is not a game changer for our club.

Not at fullback for sure, although his defence has saved more than 1 game for us.

 

[hindy111]

Unless its a medical retirement I cant see him at least not finishing his current contract.
So where do we put him?
Supersub at 14?

No 14. Utility. Can fill 1,3,6,7 and if can play a little hooker perfect.