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Rd11: 735pm EELS v Raiders GAME DAY THREAD @ GIO Stadium 13/5/23

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Jake the snake said:
People blaming the ref. Yeah sure he’s crap. But really? Have the refs been the problem for the whole season?
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No just yesterday, which is why yesterday was the only time we complained about him.

Refereeing decisions normally come out in the wash, but yesterday was a terribly biased set of decisions.
 
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Poupou Escobar said:
Andrew Johns said the Knights knew they would beat us in ‘01 because they treated it like any other game while we didn’t. The fact is if you lose you can pretend you knew why in advance. Gould predicted we would beat the Cowboys (despite being underdogs) and lose to the Panthers (as underdogs). He didn’t say it had anything to do with our preparation (which was good enough to win a massive game in North Queensland). It was easy to predict the grand final result. We were paying over $3 ffs. You don’t need to think up things we should have done differently. No matter what we did we were relying on Penrith f**king up for us to win it.
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Andrew Johns has come out and debunked that story as a myth. He said he’s being going along with it but it’s not true. Also it’s nonsense to suggest we needed to rely on Penrith to stuff up for us to win last season. We could have played the game of our lives but we didn’t even turn up.
 
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On reflection last years GF was over in he first 15 minutes, we were overpowered and crushed by Moses Leota dominating our pack almost on his own. Never recovered until late in the game, maybe our forwards were knackered after the effort in the heat of Townsville , it was game over.
 
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Poupou Escobar said:
Andrew Johns said the Knights knew they would beat us in ‘01 because they treated it like any other game while we didn’t. The fact is if you lose you can pretend you knew why in advance. Gould predicted we would beat the Cowboys (despite being underdogs) and lose to the Panthers (as underdogs). He didn’t say it had anything to do with our preparation (which was good enough to win a massive game in North Queensland). It was easy to predict the grand final result. We were paying over $3 ffs. You don’t need to think up things we should have done differently. No matter what we did we were relying on Penrith f**king up for us to win it.
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Ok then circular boy, we beat the merkins twice during the regular season last year and have beat them again this year. We know how to beat them so what the f**k happened in the GF? It’s obviously preparation especially at a mental level. Personally I think BA doesn’t have the intelligence to get them up for big games and even at a consistent level during any season during his decade long tenure.

You need to get this once and for all. He can’t stay here forever. I get your loyalty, it’s honourable. But if everyone had your attitude Stephen Kearney would still be here. You consistently defended that hack too with your circular logic/shit stirring/trolling whatever you want to call it.

I reckon you make great contributions here. I really do, but your devils advocate approach for every f**king topic on these forums is starting to get on people’s nerves.

It’s predicable and as boring as BA’s tactics and interchanges.
 
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Chipmunk said:
The NRL hasn't been enforcing a lot of rules for a long time, this is one of them, which is probably the issue.

You can't just obstruct a defender from getting to the ball unless you're also competing for the ball. 99% of the time the player goes around the player who is obstructing them. I'm surprised more players don't do what Wighton did to be honest.
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The defender isn't expected to disappear, and can stand his ground, he can't move into the path of the chase to obstruct them, but neither does he have to get out of their way, so absolutely a player can get in the way of the chase.

He just has to get there early enough so as not to be deemed as moving into the path of the opposition player.

For example, two players from the defence can be going for the ball, one player calls the other out of the play, so he is no longer going for the ball, your interpretation there would mean he is then obliged to move out of the way of the opposition players attacking the kick, which clearly is not the case.

In the case of JA's penalty, whether it's a legitimate penalty or not relies on whether he's deemed to have deliberately moved into the path of the Wighton, not whether where he happens to be is in Wightons way.

Obviously at some point he ( JA ) moves into that position where he ends up in the way, penalty or not is decided upon how early he gets into that position, because that's how they judge his intent.
 
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Avenger said:
Ok then circular boy, we beat the merkins twice during the regular season last year and have beat them again this year. We know how to beat them so what the f**k happened in the GF? It’s obviously preparation especially at a mental level.
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Well I agree it’s about mental preparation. Simply put, the Panthers aren’t up every week, no different to any other team. During the season they take us lightly but in the finals they don’t.

If our mental preparation was shit how did we belt the Raiders and beat the Cowboys in Townsville? You’re acting like the grand final was the only big game we played that month.
 
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Poupou Escobar said:
Well I agree it’s about mental preparation. Simply put, the Panthers aren’t up every week, no different to any other team. During the season they take us lightly but in the finals they don’t.

If our mental preparation was shit how did we belt the Raiders and beat the Cowboys in Townsville? You’re acting like the grand final was the only big game we played that month.
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We beat the Raiders at home and it was expected. We beat the Cowboys because we had Tom Brady playing for us.
 
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Avenger said:
You need to get this once and for all. He can’t stay here forever. I get your loyalty, it’s honourable. But if everyone had your attitude Stephen Kearney would still be here. You consistently defended that hack too with your circular logic/shit stirring/trolling whatever you want to call it.

I reckon you make great contributions here. I really do, but your devils advocate approach for every f**king topic on these forums is starting to get on people’s nerves.

It’s predicable and as boring as BA’s tactics and interchanges.
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I have never said he needs to stay forever. I have consistently tried to get you merkins thinking about resourcing. Until we improve that you are barking up the wrong tree blaming everything on the coach. However this ‘popular opinion’ certainly makes it easier for the club to blame the coach and avoid making the required changes to resourcing.

Do you get it? You think it’s enough to blame the coach, and when I point out we need to be bigger as a club, you accuse me of playing devils advocate. Here’s a hint. The bloke you see talking at the pressers doesn’t run the club. There’s plenty of people above him, a mere employee, who have far more influence on the long term strength of the NRL team and the success of the coach.
 
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Poupou Escobar said:
I have never said he needs to stay forever. I have consistently tried to get you merkins thinking about resourcing. Until we improve that you are barking up the wrong tree blaming everything on the coach. However this ‘popular opinion’ certainly makes it easier for the club to blame the coach and avoid making the required changes to resourcing.

Do you get it? You think it’s enough to blame the coach, and when I point out we need to be bigger as a club, you accuse me of playing devils advocate. Here’s a hint. The bloke you see talking at the pressers doesn’t run the club. There’s plenty of people above him, a mere employee, who have far more influence on the long term strength of the NRL team and the success of the coach.
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Chipmunk said:
For mine, this had "one of those seasons" written all over it the moment Matterson decided to keep $4k in his own pocket than play the first three rounds.

From there, we didn't start training until January, Lane broke his jaw, Junior got suspended, RCG got injured, Moses got knocked out.

This, coupled with our complete and utter blaze approach from all concerned to just about everything we do on the field meant we were never any hope this year.
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Imagine how the Storm must feel missing their million dollar fullback. Munster missing games,Olam, Big Nelson.....
Seriously we've had a fairly light injury toll. Nearly every side has injuries. Have we played a side who wasnt missing atleast 2 guys from their best 17?
 
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Delboy said:
Dylan became involved when Hodgson departed as Hands is quicker to the ruck, passes off the ground quicker and provides space by doing it. Unfortunately Hodgson is a handbrake given his slow service and arm grabbing and lack of speed. Imagine what the Simmonson try would have been if Hodgson had to back up the big line break, wouldn’t have happened. Playing him for more than 25 minutes doesn’t seem to work.
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We are going around in circles. Hodgsons f**ked. Time to drop him.
What do you know about Meni Luke?
 
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