Rd11: Eels v Manly GAME DAY THREAD @ Commbank 20/5/22

[hindy111]

Both teams are down low on the table 14th and 15th and it was 4 tries each. We only kicked one goal.

That’s poor trolling. Do better.

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I stated facts. Beaten? Yes. By a poor side? Yes

 

[IFR33K]

I watched the Ch9 replay this arvo and it wasn’t as bad a game as I thought at the ground. It was a low error throw everything at each other battle and both teams scrambled really well in defence.

It’s that scramble and the switch plays and offloads that beat Storm and Penrith and we executed that style OK last night.

Gee that Moses sin bin was iffy. Yes Moses put his hand on Turbo’s shoulder, but Turbo got a flat pass from the hooker. If Turbo wasn’t “interfered with” or held back he would have been in front of the ball carrier.

Good game.

Hate to say it, but I enjoyed Joey, Camillions and Slater’s commentary.

What I found laughable about the Moses binning is that yes he touches him but didn’t effect him at all.

when penisini kicked the ball in the second half, he was clearly tackled late. Not blocked but tackled. Yet all we got was a penalty

 

[Gronk]

What I found laughable about the Moses binning is that yes he touches him but didn’t effect him at all.

when penisini kicked the ball in the second half, he was clearly tackled late. Not blocked but tackled. Yet all we got was a penalty

You can throw in the whack in Reg’s jaw not long after Perham nearly lost his head.

 

[Gazzamatta]

You can throw in the whack in Reg’s jaw not long after Perham nearly lost his head.

No charge either by the MRC. The 2 on report both fines only. Laughable really.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

That's what I don't get. Kicking really isn't that hard. Everyone on a soccer team can do it.

But how many of them can also defend at 85% effectiveness in the NRL?

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

But how many of them can also defend at 85% effectiveness in the NRL?

Viduka would have gone alright.

But I wonder if kicking gets a little too compartmentalized as you go through the system and even at NRL level. Plenty of athletic guys 95+ kilos should be able to do general field kicking and defend, and there's lots of them in NRL teams.

 

[hineyrulz]

There’s a serious shortage of merkins who can kick and tackle. If you can do both you’ll always have a place in the NRL. But yes, getting to 100 games could still take a bit of luck.

He just needs his dad to last another 5 or 6 years………..

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Viduka would have gone alright.

But I wonder if kicking gets a little too compartmentalized as you go through the system and even at NRL level. Plenty of athletic guys 95+ kilos should be able to do general field kicking and defend, and there's lots of them in NRL teams.

Sure but then there’s the requirement for the halves (and fullback) to cover great distances over 80 minutes. It’s a list of requirements that starts to exclude most merkins with size and power.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

How Jake is the only back up half in our top 30 is absolutely laughable.

Haha yeah the good clubs all have quality backup halves. Look how good the Storm’s backups are going! The salary cap means that some merkins who “should be nowhere near first grade” might have to end up playing some first grade.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Sure but then there’s the requirement for the halves (and fullback) to cover great distances over 80 minutes. It’s a list of requirements that starts to exclude most merkins with size and power.

Does the general kicking need to be done by a half?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Does the general kicking need to be done by a half?

That's pretty much what makes them a half. It's a specialist skill that takes a lot of work, and for blokes who aren't required to do it, all that work is a waste of time. There's other shit they need to spend their time on. Plus by the time they reach first grade the kickers (halves) have already been identified and recruited. Trying to develop the kicking game of some bloke who didn't come through the lower grades as a general play kicker is too little too late.

 

[hindy111]

Haha yeah the good clubs all have quality backup halves. Look how good the Storm’s backups are going! The salary cap means that some merkins who “should be nowhere near first grade” might have to end up playing some first grade.

Weaker sides seem to have the better back ups.
Roosters do have Hutchinson. Penrith have SoS.

 

[Eelementary]

Hutchinson is bog ordinary, tbh...

 

[hindy111]

Hutchinson is bog ordinary, tbh...

Yeah.
Well in NSW CUP JA ran for 164 mtra, had 3 LBAs and 1 TAs. He maybe ordinary but that's good stats

 

[Eelementary]

Yeah.
Well in NSW CUP JA ran for 164 mtra, had 3 LBAs and 1 TAs. He maybe ordinary but that's good stats

I am one of the few people that actually sees a footballer in Jake Arthur - he's got a good footy brain, he defends well, and his kicking game is generally good.

He also has decent pace - not outstanding, but good enough to be a problem for opposition defences.

His main area of improvement is the speed at which he makes decisions, and this will come with more competitive experience.

 

[TheParraboy]

I think JA could develop into a Tim Smith type halfback, but a better defender

Probably needs to gain half a yard of pace in all facets of his game, not just running the ball

 

[yy_cheng]

Yeah.
Well in NSW CUP JA ran for 164 mtra, had 3 LBAs and 1 TAs. He maybe ordinary but that's good stats

How long did it take him to run so far

 

[yy_cheng]

I am one of the few people that actually sees a footballer in Jake Arthur - he's got a good footy brain, he defends well, and his kicking game is generally good.

He also has decent pace - not outstanding, but good enough to be a problem for opposition defences.

His main area of improvement is the speed at which he makes decisions, and this will come with more competitive experience.

I think he's too slow in every thing he does

He should follow mattos route.

Hit the gym and Bulk up. Learn to run hard with his bulk

Then he can play in the middle like a lock and be able to become a middle forward.

Our team lacks pace, a slow half doesn't help

And I really don't like his slow movements in other aspects of his game.

Look at the young ones in the comp who are doing well. They are confident and even somewhat arrogant cos they are use to a winning culture or they back their own abilities mentally.

I just don't see that in JA.

He's like he just wants to please daddy and scared of being himself.

 

[yy_cheng]

I think JA could develop into a Tim Smith type halfback, but a better defender

Probably needs to gain half a yard of pace in all facets of his game, not just running the ball

Tim Smith was quick between the ears and he oozed confidence. Defense was shit and his psychological issues led to his lack of success

 

[hineyrulz]

Tim Smith had more talent in his little pinky than Jakey has in his entire body.