Rd14: Eels v Bulldogs GAME DAY THREAD @ Accor Stadium 13/6/22

[hindy111]

I think he was still playing Matts this year but there are some huge wraps on him coming through from what I hear.

Will be interesting. We've yet to debut anyone this season. Would be good to see atleast 1 or 2 guys coming in each season. Hopefully a talented hooker on the books!

 

[King-Gutho94]

Will be interesting. We've yet to debut anyone this season. Would be good to see atleast 1 or 2 guys coming in each season. Hopefully a talented hooker on the books!

BA recruiting plodders like Makatoa and Ogden which blocks the pathway for these younger front rowers isn't helping.

 

[Eelogical]

Who was lead commentator for Fox League yesterday it wasn't vossy was it as he was in Redcliffe yesterday morning.

Our record when Vossy calls a Parra game this year is 7 wins 0 Losses
And when he isn't calling we are 1 win 5 Losses.

He may not be everyone's cup of tea but he seems like our good luck on Fox League.

Yeah.....nah.

 

[King-Gutho94]

Just heard Gutho on the radio. Same sh!t excuses. Mentioned chasing me collision. He is not interested. Talks the talk can’t walk the walk.

I hate to say it but Gutho is starting to sound more like Timmy Mannah every time he talks in the media these days.

 

[eel01s]

What gets me is that we cannot do the basics well (even when we win games)
We do not put the tackled player on their back
We rarely pressure the kicker
We always seem to have our tacklers left on the ground at the ruck
We do not have set plays
We rarely run decoys successfully
We can't create overlaps

That is on the coaching staff. I don't believe we train as hard as other teams do.

 

[hineyrulz]

Lol @ Pou, he really goes full Retread after a loss.

 

[hineyrulz]

Just heard Gutho on the radio. Same sh!t excuses. Mentioned chasing me collision. He is not interested. Talks the talk can’t walk the walk.

He’s got his big contract why should he care?? We should of told him to shit in his boot and eat it when his manager started f**king us around again.

 

[Chipmunk]

And that's the problem. They are that much better than us of course they underperformed when they played us. But we beat them and suddenly we're equals? Get your hand off it. No doubt there are Bulldogs fans now thinking they should be top six like we are. Based on one f**king game.

We've beaten the Storm the last three times (possibly 4) that we've played them, and there has been a penalty goal or conversation in the last two games we've played the Panthers. For whatever reason, I suspect because we have the power game to be able to get in the grind with them.

Have the Storm and Panthers "under performed" against us for the same reasons that we've under performed against the lower teams? I suspect not.

 

[Angry_eel]

Next week:
Drop Mahoney and bring in Rein.
Drop Lane to the bench (or reserve grade).
Papalii back to the edge.
Nrown to start at 13.
Hire Shane Flanagan as coach.

Remember that ad:

"Yeahhh... As If"

 

[Joshuatheeel]

BA recruiting plodders like Makatoa and Ogden which blocks the pathway for these younger front rowers isn't helping.

Na, if they are good enough their path won’t be blocked….

BA recruited that plodder Opacic last year and it didn’t block our young centre Penisini……

 

[Gary Gutful]

I haven’t had the displeasure of watching the game yet and maybe you can tell by my posting style that I don’t usually throw the baby out with the bath water following a loss. I will say this though… results like today’s often sound the death knell for coaches and we’ve had two of them this season alone.

I think he’s gone at the end of the season. 9 years a long time.

 

[Chipmunk]

It’s exactly the same in most industries. The supervisory board is there for governance and the CEO (which in this case is the coach) and their leadership team have the corporate knowledge.
The difference here is, in most circumstances, the supervisory board would punt the CEO after 1 underperforming year.

The Head Coach is not the CEO though, he answers to the CEO, and in some instances there is someone in the hierarchical structure in between them to. In reality, at Parra (and most professional sports teams in fairness), the leadership team of the corporate entity (CEO, CFO, other Heads of areas, etc) has zero corporate knowledge of the core business of the organisation.

In most industries there is at least someone on the board who has a background in that particular industry of the core business that they are on the board for. Other NRL teams, including the Panthers (Greg Alexander), Roosters (Luke Ricketson) and Broncos (Darren Lockyer), have at least one person on the board who at least has a very good understanding of the core business of the organisation/industry.

There is no corporate knowledge/industry background in anyone on the board or management of the club. They're bankers and accountants and my original point is that bankers and accountants won't sack the only person with corporate knowledge of the core business of the organisation with 2 1/2 years to go on his contract who is still inside the Top 8.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Lol @ Pou, he really goes full Retread after a loss.

Well someone has to set us straight ffs. More power to ya Poo.

 

[Gazzamatta]

He’s got his big contract why should he care?? We should of told him to shit in his boot and eat it when bud manager started f**king us around again.

I get the impression Gutho is the only player he talks to. Check out every half time in the sheds.

 

[Chipmunk]

I'm not so sure about this.

What justification would the board have to sack a coach who's team is inside the Top 8?

 

[Joshuatheeel]

The Head Coach is not the CEO though, he answers to the CEO, and in some instances there is someone in the hierarchical structure in between them to. In reality, at Parra (and most professional sports teams in fairness), the leadership team of the corporate entity (CEO, CFO, other Heads of areas, etc) has zero corporate knowledge of the core business of the organisation.

In most industries there is at least someone on the board who has a background in that particular industry of the core business that they are on the board for. Other NRL teams, including the Panthers (Greg Alexander), Roosters (Luke Ricketson) and Broncos (Darren Lockyer), have at least one person on the board who at least has a very good understanding of the core business of the organisation/industry.

There is no corporate knowledge/industry background in anyone on the board or management of the club. They're bankers and accountants and my original point is that bankers and accountants won't sack the only person with corporate knowledge of the core business of the organisation with 2 1/2 years to go on his contract who is still inside the Top 8.

Melbourne Storm don’t…..

 

[Chipmunk]

We have 2 or 3 forwards that are 18 months away from FG which is probably why names like Davey get thrown around. Davey is someone who we know can do a job (and we know the job he will do) but more importantly, he wont stand in the way of some of the juniors like Brazel, Tuivaiti and Larry Muagututia who are all close.

I've heard all of this about juniors before. We have a history of significantly more misses than hits from our juniors in the past. What makes these ones different?

 

[hineyrulz]

I think he was still playing Matts this year but there are some huge wraps on him coming through from what I hear.

From same people that wrapped Arthur, Hollis, Hughes and Schneider???

 

[Chipmunk]

Melbourne Storm don’t…..

True, but how much are they doing to ensure that the main person with the corporate knowledge of the core business is not going to go anywhere anytime soon?

The original comment was about the current boards willingness to sack the coach. The Melbourne Storm want to do the complete opposite.

My argument is that the Head Coach really has all the influence over the board, things don't appear to be too much different at the Storm.

 

[TheParraboy]

Stats from the game, couresy of nrl.com

Possession: Parra 52%
Completion: Parra 72%, Dogs 80%
Offloads: Parra 18-14
Line Breaks: Parra 4-3
Tackles made: Dogs 364-362
Missed tackles: Dogs 22-21
Ineffective tackles: 24-24
Errors: Parra 13-9 (Why does it feel we should be a lot more?)
Penaties awarded: Parra 11-4
Ruck infrigement: Dogs 2-0
Forced Drop out: Parra 3-0