Rd14: Eels v Bulldogs GAME DAY THREAD @ Accor Stadium 13/6/22

[emjaycee]

So the coach is not accountable? Thought RCG played well. Paulo I agree was off but he’s been off for a while now.

The coach is accountable for every single win and every single loss mate. It comes with the role.
But he isn't solely accountable as some would like to think. I mean afterall, it's a team sport played by 17 grown men on a field 100m x 65m and the one person who everyone wants to blame isn't even allowed in that 650 sqm space while the game is on.

 

[JokerEel]

Can’t wait till we sign Lodge as well.

I wonder if the club think that will save some face after this shitty loss.. Lodge.. Who's great idea is that..

 

[Incorrect]

I can’t even articulate why, but seeing him in a hoodie like that made me angry. I’ve always been a big believer that you dress for success. He looks f**king homeless

*clueless

 

[hineyrulz]

I can’t even articulate why, but seeing him in a hoodie like that made me angry. I’ve always been a big believer that you dress for success. He looks f**king homeless

That's exactly what i said to my housemate, if you can't be a decent head coach at least try and look like one. He's meant to be a leader at the club and the dope sits in the box with a f**king hoodie on lol. It's bad enough when he opens his mouth, i mean he holidays in Bali. Just a dumb Westie Bogan who has won the lotto 9 years in a row.

 

[emjaycee]

Our line speed has been poor all year, even when Brown was starting in the 13. Our marker defence is almost non existent and we are burnt on the edges constantly. But yeah it's just a player issue lol.

Are you saying the players aren't to blame for a loss mate?

 

[crocodile]

We should never play bottom teams on public holidays. Done by the Tigpies on Easter Monday and now the Bullfrogs on the Queen's Birthday holiday.

 

[hineyrulz]

I didn’t watch reserve grade but Mahoney has been shit for most of the year. I don’t particularly like Rein but if Mahoney isn’t going to be held accountable for shit performances we are going to get more of the same until he leaves for the Dogs.

The coach is never held accountable for anything so i doubt the players will.

Remember when Bea dropped Jennings only for him to have a game in reserve grade when we had a bye and he was straight back in. Thats the only time he has really dropped a high profile player and even that was fake.

 

[Gary Gutful]

But yeah it's just a player issue lol.

Whiney: The coach is shit!
Someone else: But the players are shit as well!
Whiney: Pff, yeah its just a player issue lol.

 

[DaveMc]

The coach is accountable for every single win and every single loss mate. It comes with the role.
But he isn't solely accountable as some would like to think. I mean afterall, it's a team sport played by 17 grown men on a field 100m x 65m and the one person who everyone wants to blame isn't even allowed in that 650 sqm space while the game is on.

Do you think there’s something wrong with the coaching given it seems there’s such issues in getting the team up on a consistent basis? I can’t fathom how we can match Penrith and Melbourne, but crumble on days like today and Easter Monday. (And that’s not at all a loaded question or having a crack at you, I’m genuinely interested in your take on it because I think your contributions are always level-headed and incisive).

 

[Gary Gutful]

The coach is never held accountable for anything so i doubt the players will.

Remember when Bea dropped Jennings only for him to have a game in reserve grade when we had a bye and he was straight back in. Thats the only time he has really dropped a high profile player and even that was fake.

Should have dropped Drown for Jakey today. Drown was bog average

 

[Gary Gutful]

The coach is accountable for every single win and every single loss mate. It comes with the role.
But he isn't solely accountable as some would like to think. I mean afterall, it's a team sport played by 17 grown men on a field 100m x 65m and the one person who everyone wants to blame isn't even allowed in that 650 sqm space while the game is on.

I'm more interested in who is responsible rather than who is accountable.

Less interested in who should be consulted or informed.

 

[hineyrulz]

Are you saying the players aren't to blame for a loss mate?

Not at all, your whole post was about the players and everything they did wrong which is fair enough but nothing about Cornholio in the box. As usual. You talked up Browns supposed line speed i queried that and said our line speed has been poor all year. Let alone our non existent marker defence and how easily teams burn us on the edges. Point out where i was wrong???

As for the players they were lazy,soft and disgraceful. It was not good enough but it shouldn't be happening for a club with our roster with a coach in his 9th season with a team apparently challenging for a title. Surely it's time to go in another direction because we are winning a thing with this coach in charge.

 

[hineyrulz]

Should have dropped Drown for Jakey today. Drown was bog average

Brown did come into the game under an injury cloud, and he seemed to hurt his ankle when TPJ squashed him. He was poor but he did save 2 tries t]in defence which is more than i can say for most of his team mates.

 

[hineyrulz]

Whiney: The coach is shit!
Someone else: But the players are shit as well!
Whiney: Pff, yeah its just a player issue lol.

Everyone is f**king plop!!! You happy??? I know Pou is he gets a massive boner when Parra are this mediocre. It's when he comes alive. Defend defend defend!!!

 

[Jake the snake]

The coach is accountable for every single win and every single loss mate. It comes with the role.
But he isn't solely accountable as some would like to think. I mean afterall, it's a team sport played by 17 grown men on a field 100m x 65m and the one person who everyone wants to blame isn't even allowed in that 650 sqm space while the game is on.

But there’s a pattern right? It happens to often to this coach where he isn’t able to motivate them for games that a wins every day of the week. The well coached teams, even if they have a shit game still win that game by 30. Do you think he’s been given a fair shot 9 years ? They still beat the likes of the Tigers, Dogs etc. well coached teams do that. You can’t defend that shit. You can’t defend his coaching. Mick potter out coached him.

A well coached team would have worked their way back into that game and found a way to win against the team coming last. Instead what did we do ? We predictably folded, choked, we panicked, we went side to side making errors. We’ve seen this again and again under his coach.

9 years and counting of the same shit. He needs to go.

 

[hineyrulz]

The coach is accountable for every single win and every single loss mate. It comes with the role.
But he isn't solely accountable as some would like to think. I mean afterall, it's a team sport played by 17 grown men on a field 100m x 65m and the one person who everyone wants to blame isn't even allowed in that 650 sqm space while the game is on.

When has the coach ever been held accountable for anything at the club??? He wasn't after a spoon, he wasn't after a 60 point loss he was extended.

He wasn't last season even though he was told he needed to improve on 2020, instead we win less games and finish 6th and are yet again bundled out in the week 2. Once again he is extended for two more years. I ask again held accountable for what??? Does he even have KPI's in his contract???? You'd have to seriously doubt it after he was extended yet again after delivering very little. 2 finals wins in 9 years is not being held accountable for anything.......

 

[emjaycee]

Not at all, your whole post was about the players and everything they did wrong which is fair enough but nothing about Cornholio in the box. As usual. You talked up Browns supposed line speed i queried that and said our line speed has been poor all year. Let alone our non existent marker defence and how easily teams burn us on the edges. Point out where i was wrong???

As for the players they were lazy,soft and disgraceful. It was not good enough but it shouldn't be happening for a club with our roster with a coach in his 9th season with a team apparently challenging for a title. Surely it's time to go in another direction because we are winning a thing with this coach in charge.

I dont often post much about the coaches impact on a game (win or lose) because to be honest, I dont think week to week preparation changes much, except where relevant to specific teams we are playing. So for me, wins and losses are actually more as a the result of the performance put in by the players who are executing on the day.

Take Lane for example. Only he decided to be lazy on the days when he is. And not on the days when he isnt. He isnt coached to do that. Same goes for Moses deciding to put the ball down one-handed. That was his choice.

So if the coach has good enough preparation methods to get us up for wins against the top teams, then those methods should be good enough against the weaker teams. When you lose a game like we did today, it wasnt about a lucky or unlucky bounce, or about a bad ref call, or a freaky intercept play, it was about individual players who are supposedly professional, deciding for whatever reason that they dont want to do their best today. That is on them and that is why my posts tend to focus on where I think players have let us down.

And yes, I do think we should look at some new coaching staff to freshen up the environment, as long as the decision is taken in a controlled (i.e non-reactive) process.

Sorry for my Ram like rant.

TLDR: f**k the players and the coach.

 

[strider]

Speaking of the great cornholio………..

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I pissed myself laughing at this during the game ... the face was perfect

 

[Gazzamatta]

I am putting that game and that performance down to lack of on-field leadership from the opening whistle by our forward leaders in Junior and RCG. They should have put their effen heads down and forced us into our power game with straight hard runs and no early off-load attempts. Forced the Dogs into the grind and we control the game. Instead we thought we'd be lazy and once we were down 4-0 we went into catch-up mode courtesy of Mahoney making some really dumb decisions. Although (as most of you know) I know him, I would happily drive him to Belmore in time for tomorrow's TLT announcement.

RCG (-1 pt)
Junior (-2 pts)
Rheed (-3 pts)

Oh and although everyone on here spills their wad over Papali'l and how much better he is than Nrown (you know, the one you all call the Plodder), Nrown at least give us some defensive line speed and we aren't sitting back waiting for them to come to us, which has been the case since Nrown was shifted to the bench.

I actually thought RCG aimed up in his first stint. Paulo on the other hand was poor and has been for a number of weeks. That long pass out of dummy half by Rheed is such a poor tactic against a rushing defence. As usual our tactics were poor and a complete inability to adjust. Very disappointing but Ill be there Saturday night.

 

[emjaycee]

Do you think there’s something wrong with the coaching given it seems there’s such issues in getting the team up on a consistent basis? I can’t fathom how we can match Penrith and Melbourne, but crumble on days like today and Easter Monday. (And that’s not at all a loaded question or having a crack at you, I’m genuinely interested in your take on it because I think your contributions are always level-headed and incisive).

I think there is a leadership problem both on and off the field.