Gary Gutful
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Lets call everyone a superstar. I hate it when someone misses out.
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Lets call everyone a superstar. I hate it when someone misses out.
Even worse, they put shit on Brown until the coach decides to give him the arse and then suddenly he's a great player. They're f**king hypocrites.
Whether or not we were favourites is irrelevant. Do you think the Cowboys were sitting around crying about having no Thurston when they made the 2017 grand final? Do you think the Rabbitohs threw in the towel last season when they lost Latrell? Sometimes you’re going to have to face adversity and play above yourself to go far. We haven’t done that yet.
Brown is still a better option than at least two of the players in last night's 17.
No, let’s just say our players simply aren’t good enough compared to the top teams even though they’ve consistently demonstrated they’re amongst the best in their positions. If Koroisau was in our team then the fans would say how he’s no Damien Cook. He’s just not good enough.
Well sure, but then we won the spoon thrice in the last decade, under three different coaches. Maybe we need to stop blaming coaches and realise there is something deeper lacking at our club. That thing is resources.
OMG that's what I was just saying!
Maybe reaching week two of the finals is our lucky turn? It's pretty good for a club that wins so many wooden spoons.
Of course whether we are favourites is relevant. What a stupid thing to say.
I think Dylan Brown and Junior Paulo are close. Three of the others are eligible for Origin and they have half a dozen appearances between them.
After losing both wingers the week before. Of all the rotten luck
It doesn't matter. We want him off the books, and he won't leave if he thinks he'll play first grade right up until he's free to negotiate his next contract.
Another issue thats been done to death - including a detailed comparison of origin, international and finals experience amongst the better squads.
Koroisau isn't close to being as good as Cook at his best. He doesn't have the work rate.
I bet he's really wishing he switched Cook and Koroisau around in his example!
I don’t think what happened in 2012/13 has much to do with what transpired in 2018.
Why should the underdogs even show up if they shouldn’t be expected to win during finals matches?
Mitchell Pearce has 19 origin appearances. He must be an all time great halfback! It’s like raw data doesn’t always tell the full story.
I think that is making a large mistake.
He’s the current starting NSW hooker. If you were going to be using an example of Penrith being elite by having so many origin players would you hand wave him away and say he doesn’t count like you did with our players eg Brown and Gutherson?
Mate it is the same club, with the same advantages and disadvantages in recruitment/retention of players. Winning five or six games in a season happens due to something lacking in a club. Once could be blamed on an injury toll, but when it occurs three times in seven years you need to accept you're dealing with a club at a disadvantage in the player (and probably coaching) market.
Well no because if they're not doing it consistently it is probably due to a stroke of good luck.
How many other clubs have won three wooden spoons since 2012?
We’re having two different conversations then. My definition of superstar is a player who is amongst the best in their position. For example Tapine isn’t a household name but he is amongst the best players in his position. If you have a player like him in your side then he would be a large contributor to any potential finals success. I think we have a few players like that in our side who I listed.
