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Rd23 2024: 8pm Eels v Panthers GAME DAY THREAD @ Commbank Stadium Aug 9th

Poupou Escobar

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Andy Samberg Flip Flops GIF


But what if the PO (supposedly) reduced the cost of the contract (as you seem to always claim) that we're wasting on the declined benchwarmer?
The risk of the PO increases with the likelihood of the player activating it.
 
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The risk of the PO increases with the likelihood of the player activating it.
And (obs) if you don't give a PO, the risk of it can never increase.

As discussed by many above and previously, there is no benefit to the club through a PO - with the high likelihood that the player would have signed for the offered amount anyway.
 

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And (obs) if you don't give a PO, the risk of it can never increase.
If you don't give the player the PO he won't give the club a discount on his required salary. Ths is how commercial transactions work.
As discussed by many above and previously, there is no benefit to the club through a PO - with the high likelihood that the player would have signed for the offered amount anyway.
High likelihood is it? We should probably give them less money as well. I reckon there's a high likelihood that he would've signed anyway ffs
 
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If you don't give the player the PO he won't give the club a discount on his required salary. Ths is how commercial transactions work.
Lol. This is how poor commercial transactions work. See the clip Pazza posted above.
High likelihood is it? We should probably give them less money as well. I reckon there's a high likelihood that he would've signed anyway ffs
Just offer them what we're offering them, but without the player option. If they walk away because some other weak club offers them a player option so be it, and move onto the next one. At least then we will have decided that we won't stay a weak club into the future.
 

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ill only talk about the situation at parra

desperation
Desperate clubs also pay overs. You’ll note most of our players don’t have contract options. Why do some have them? You think we were only desperate to keep those ones? We could’ve just paid them more.
 

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Desperate clubs also pay overs. You’ll note most of our players don’t have contract options. Why do some have them? You think we were only desperate to keep those ones? We could’ve just paid them more.

We could very well be paying overs and offering POs.

I would say that the PO heavy contracts (Brown, Moses, Matto, Penisini, Talagi) have all come after Mahoney, Niukore, Papalli, Kaufusi, Stone etc left the club. Players like RCG, Paulo etc don't have POs cause they re signed 2021 prior all those guys leaving.

I think the club panicked (understandability), and decided they needed to do what ever it took to get the deals done. The Brown and Talagi contracts are just odd and look like the player having all the power at the negotiating table.

If the PO offered the kind of salary cap efficiency you claim it does you'd see it more frequently in the league. The Panthers for example, their roster is being torn apart by the Dogs and Tigers atm, yet they don't have a single contract with a PO.

The Lomax contract has no clauses in it even though they asked for a head coach clause. I've also read the club will be moving away from these clauses so it will be interesting to see the simonson contract.
 

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We're coming second last.

We've had a shocking year.

We're missing 7 regular First Graders.

Many people, myself included, predicted we'd get 40 put on us.

I'm sorry, but I can't understand why people thought this team should have defended their lead against the best team of the NRL era...


Maybe the 2022, or 2017 side, sure.

But not this team.
 
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hindy111

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We're coming second last.

We've had a shocking year.

We're missing 7 regular First Graders.

Many people, myself included, predicted we'd get 40 put on us.

I'm sorry, but I can't understand why people though this team should have defended their lead against the best team of the NRL era...


Maybe the 2022, or 2017 side, sure.

But not this team.

14 points up at home with 7.30min to go full set on their line attacking.
I reckon 99% of sides hold on in this situation. Maybe even a full NSW cup side.
 

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Dan Kier 3 games in.

Is he worth a 1 year deal in top 30 next year.

I haven't noticed him which could be a good thing he hasn't made any major mistakes.

But maybe he is just a workman like that doesn't offer much but just does the basics.
He's also fast. Has played centre and 5/8 in the 2s. Definitely a handy backup.
 

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We can blame our injuries, but I think the reason we have lost most games is from utter stupidity for example sivos forearm to the head on the manly player. We are the stupidest team in the nrl.
We've also not had a defensive structure or mindset for 11 plus years. Ryles will work hard on this. It will make a massive difference. Finally someone who has a f'n clue. Bring it on.
 

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I mentioned this earlier. Parra had 11 guys missing but how many of those 11 are in the best 17?
I'd say 4 -5 difference makers where missing. Still thou it was a great effort and if Asi doesn't kick on *3rd Parra may of scored later thst set and won 40-20.
*4th
 

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