Rd24: Parra v Broncos LIVE GAME DAY thread 30/8/19

[I bleed blue & gold]

Our forwards made good meters last night, we had the platform set. I want to see Mitch take the line on a bit more, it's like he has gone into his shell abit.

 

[hindy111]

Shitting the bed = not getting back to 16 all.

Brisbane had one good set in golden point and jagged a field goal. Golden point is plop. Give both teams a point for the draw.

The defense in that last set consdering we had all the ball for the last 10 mins AMD just had a 5min break in game was a disgrace. Sickening.
Our bench isn't effective. I'd honestly look at Gower, Alvaro and Terepo.
Gower can be effective but might need a rest and back for finals. Terepo isn't getting a chance at all. And Alvaro is a plodded.
Brown takes one spot and I would still consider Mannah for Danny's. Also would monitor Stones game this week for Wenty. I like the idea of some energy and quick forwards coming off bench.

 

[Gronk]

Our forwards made good meters last night, we had the platform set. I want to see Mitch take the line on a bit more, it's like he has gone into his shell abit.

That’s were the immaturity of Brown works against us. How good when we have both Mitch and Brown playing at their potential?

In the meantime Gutho needs to do more and offer variation. Moses just can’t be the only tackle 5. Too easy to pick him off.

 

[I bleed blue & gold]

One other thing that has annoyed the f*** out of me the last few weeks is we RARELY ever pressure the kicker. Happens to us, but we don't do it ourselves. It's those little 1%ers that can turn a game.

 

[hindy111]

Moses can only play in the space that his forwards provide him. Harsh.

Agree that we need two forwards. How can we compete with the broncos who seem to be re-signing everyone under their sombrero?

We have a few coming through. Hopefully Stefano, Kaufusi, and those tall timber props from flegg have great off seasons.

RCG would be good.

Undecided on RCG. I'd rather Jai Arrow.
Bird would be a cheeky pick up. Id rather we let MJ go and blood Parry or Salmon in centers. It would free up 150k. I'd then be having a talk to Frizzel ,Crighton or Tariq Sims. See if any want a change.

 

[Noise]

One other thing that has annoyed the f*** out of me the last few weeks is we RARELY ever pressure the kicker. Happens to us, but we don't do it ourselves. It's those little 1%ers that can turn a game.

Yep I’ve noticed that too in the last few weeks. It’s completely an attitude thing.
Attitude has always been an issue with our club.

 

[crocodile]

What if he wears crocs? Look out!

Gutho: Played solid and offered good left side opportunities.
Sivo: did not let us down. Did everything we asked of him.
Jennings: struggled without space and clean ball.
Blake: struggled without space and clean ball.
Fergo: great game but below his standards. Was unlucky not to be given the last try.
Brown: is still learning his trade. Good defender etc but needs to step up.
Moses: busy and energetic. Line speed crowded him and madehim panic. We would have won had he not had an off night with the boot.
Alvaro: not a lock. Best suited for a 17 benchie. Played fair.
Manu: had to go looking for the ball in the middle to cause any trouble.
Lane: had to do a lot of Nathan Brown work up the middle which zapped his energy. Great game otherwise.
Jnr: played long minutes and was our enforcer today
Evans: same as jnr. Did not take a backwards step.
Reedy: was busy but seems to be taking on too much. Seems to have the Nathan Hindmarsh gene and thinks he needs to do everything. Relax and trust the guy next to you.

Marata: strong runs up the middle. Hits hard.
Terapo: did not cone of the back fence. Quiet game this week
Gower: did not like the fast line speed. It disrupted his late footwork. Madehim ineffective.
Taka: i liked his fresh legs contributions in the last 20. Hwas the reason why we started to throw the ball around.

Gower didn't like the fast line speed all right. Unfortunately we aren't that well prepared to counter it either. Someone with a good short kicking game would soon have the defenders thinking twice about rushing up. Nobody seems willing to try this.

 

[hineyrulz]

Moses can only play in the space that his forwards provide him. Harsh.

Agree that we need two forwards. How can we compete with the broncos who seem to be re-signing everyone under their sombrero?

We have a few coming through. Hopefully Stefano, Kaufusi, and those tall timber props from flegg have great off seasons.

RCG would be good.

I thought our forwards did a decent job and the last 20 mins were winning the battle, Moses just didn't seem to want to take control and grab the game by the scruff of the neck. How many time did we go the blind side on the 4th to end up in a poor spot only for Moses to be 20m away from the ball and waiting for a shitty pass to put in a rushed kick??? Was that that play go the blind side in the last because we couldn't have Brown to hog it???

 

[84 Baby]

IIRC we won a game a few weeks ago when they had a floater called forward.

At least that one floated forward. Guthos pass was backwards the entire time

 

[hineyrulz]

Our forwards made good meters last night, we had the platform set. I want to see Mitch take the line on a bit more, it's like he has gone into his shell abit.

This. It's his team now so he needs to step up and prove it.

 

[hineyrulz]

He needs another option to give clean ball to when rushed at by defence on 5th.

I think its time for Dyl to get more involved, it seems he has been given a role and he has to stick to it but Mitch has too much to do as the real only attacking kicking option on the last.

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

There are some things we need to improve on for 2020:

• Bench rotation - With Taka going back to the bench and the recruitment of another quality prop, this will improve. If we can figure out what we're going to do regarding a hooking replacement, we'll be fine.

• Centre: To be blunt, Jennings has lost his speed and, I believe, is now past it. Yes, he can defend, but he no longer creates opportunities. Most of Sivo's tries come from long balls or him having space to make his own opportunities. I think we need to let Jennings go and replace him.

Brown will mature and get better, and Moses just needs time to learn what to do with a good team. I think our spine is fine, so if we get a prop and a centre we'll be pushing to be a genuine Top 4 team.

 

[Gary Gutful]

I actually think we're a pretty good team.

Yes, we lack some discipline. But, I think, equally importantly, we are also over enthusiastic sometimes, and we need to learn to control that. Yes, that's discipline, but an important facet of it that needs its own attention.

Alright, let's f**king smash them! Penalty.
Alright, let's throw this f**king ball around! Drop it.

And we get in that crazy mindset and just lose composure. But I'm ok with that. We f**king came last in 2018. LAST!!!

We're making good metres, we've got good outside backs, we can throw some damned fine offloads and Moses has a good kicking game - when we don't get over-enthusiastic.

400+ more metres, more offloads, 3 tries to 2. We lost because Moses had an uncharacteristically poor night kicking goals. That's it.

We'll probably end up playing the Broncos in Rd. 1 of the Finals and we'll f**king smash them at home. Hopefully, we then face the Bunnies, because we'll f**king smash them, too. All we'll need to do, then, is pull one good game out of our arses and we'll be in the GF. Hell, even if we lose that game, we were still in the final four.

So, in summary - take your pessimism and cram it up your ringhole. We're a pretty good team, and if we nab a front rower for next year that's worth anything then we'll be even better and maybe a genuine Top 4 team.

f**king great post.

 

[TheParraboy]

Glaring thing for me, and a couple of people have mentioned it

Is another field kicker

The better sides are just gonna gun for Moses on the 5th tackle knowing there is no one else, especially when we are in our own 40 and not getting a roll on. He is pressured too much a lot of the time.

We really need to address / mix this part of our game up, especially if we manage to get through week 1 of the finals

 

[Gazzamatta]

Glaring thing for me, and a couple of people have mentioned it

Is another field kicker

The better sides are just gonna gun for Moses on the 5th tackle knowing there is no one else, especially when we are in our own 40 and not getting a roll on. He is pressured too much a lot of the time.

We really need to address / mix this part of our game up, especially if we manage to get through week 1 of the finals

Drown is a great kicker. Im sure its the game plan preventing him from greater involvment or Moses overplaying his role. Definitely dont need another Moses V Normy scenario.

 

[Matty Bhoy]

I’d break the bank to get Fifita. He would completely revitalise our pack. The kid has superstar written all over him.

I regards to Jenko, he’s coming back from a knee injury isn’t he? He’s lost some pace but that could be also to do with the injury. If we sign him on the right deal, I don’t have an issue. Curtis Scott would be ideal however.

I seem to be in the minority who thought Alvaro was decent last night. BA got it right starting him.

 

[TheRam]

We got back to 16 all and had all the momentum, and as usual we shit the bed in a pressure situation.

We didn't shit the bed at all. The NRL shit the comp.

This has been a bugbear of mine for years. How the hell does the NRL justify golden point the way they have it now. So two teams play equally well. Not a point between them at full time and so we get extra time. Sweet all good so far. Then one team receives the ball first and for whatever reason just like both teams often did in regular game time, team one roll down the field and are in field goal distance and indeed kick it. Game f**king over!!!?

WHAT!!!?

So team two doesn't even get to touch the freaking ball other then to kick it to them so they can go rolling down the field and kick the winning point? Oh yeah, what a great freakin rule!

As always, NRL officialdom are a bunch of dim witted bloody fools, that will just view the excitement and heartache and huge ratings at the end of the game as a great advertisement for the wonderful sport of Rugby League, without even for a moment comprehending what an angry and empty feeling it has left in the pits of every single losing Parra player and supporter at the time for not ever allowing them the right of reply. Not even for a damn second.

Yeah what a great rule as it stands. Golden point is a potential joke as we all saw and experienced last night that has probably robed Parramatta and the NRL(bite its nose to spite its f**king dumb face comes to mind) of a sellout home Semi final.

Yeah geniuses run the NRL. Woo bloody hoo!!!

 

[TheParraboy]

Drown is a great kicker. Im sure its the game plan preventing him from greater involvment or Moses overplaying his role. Definitely dont need another Moses V Normy scenario.

Cant say I have seen DBrown kick from within our own 40m for distance

Inside the opposition 20, sure has a nice touch.

 

[Kornstar]

Just a quick look, they had 3 forwards made 100 plus metre:

Hass - 234
Fifita - 141
Lodge - 153
Next best was Gillet at 93 then Carrigan at 71.

We had 5 players made 100 plus metres

Evans - 173
Paulo - 148
Marata - 110
Lane - 181
Alvaro - 117

Next best was Manu with 96.

Tackle busts was 36 to 24, a fair difference but not massively.

Not a big difference except for the fact that it ultimately won them the game.

We need to learn to tackle, we don’t like the collision enough as a team.

 

[TheRam]

Our forwards made good meters last night, we had the platform set. I want to see Mitch take the line on a bit more, it's like he has gone into his shell abit.

The problem is to many pundits have been raping him the last few weeks and his kicking too. It has gone to his head a little and he has lost focus. He needs to block out all the noise and refocus again. We will see if he can get it back or not these next few games. If he does it would show great strength of character, growth and maturity.

If not, we're cactus.