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Realistic team for 2011

League_God

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1.Aku Uate
2.Pete Matutai/James Mcmanus
3.Junior Sau
4.Kurt Gidley
5.Cooper Vuna
6.Jarred Mullen
7.Brett Kimmorley
8.Kade Snowden
9.Isaac De Gois
10.Ben Cross
11.Zeb Taia
12.Corey Patterson
13.Mark Taufua

14.Evarn Tuimavave
15.Steve Simpson (to be used strictly as an impact Prop)
16.Ethan Cook
17.Richie Faaso

chase kimmorley HARD!! he should be priority number 1.
keep simpson if he is willing to take a paycut.
Cross is priority equal 2 along with Snowy/Toleman.

everyone fit and firing, that team could well win you a comp.
 

perverse

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lol... Uate... fullback... no...

i don't think Snowden is off contract until 2012.

wtf does gidley offer in the centres? blistering pace? sublime ball skills? a good offload? skillful footwork?

no.
 

Yosh

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Kimmorley will be 35 next year.......... Have to admit the thought doesn't fill me with joy him signing here.

Thought he was 83. He is too old to be chasing so hard. I would have loved to have him back 2 years ago but we lost out to the Doggies. Not that we were chasing I don't think!
 

League_God

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lol... Uate... fullback... no...

i don't think Snowden is off contract until 2012.

wtf does gidley offer in the centres? blistering pace? sublime ball skills? a good offload? skillful footwork?

no.
you are completely wrong about uate.

  • his defence is improving steadily
  • he is the fastest player in the nrl
  • he gets the ball more at fullback in broken play i.e teams sh*t themselves
  • he is improving under the high ball
anyone with half an idea about rugby league will tell you he is way to big a talent to waste away on the wing.

as for gidley in the centres...
do you not watch Aus play at all?
he has covered there a few times and set up some good trys at centre, and has very rarely missed a tackle. gidley and vuna have the potential to be a great combination.
 
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League_God

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kimmorley is exactly what this team needs.
he is experienced, very competitive, respected, won big games, great passing/kicking game and most of all a f**king genuine halfback.
while henry would be great and i would be stoked if we got him, we need a grumpy old man leading the boys around, not a 19 yr old that is going to be in the slightest bit intimidated by some of the players.
 
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kimmorley is exactly what this team needs.
he is experienced, very competitive, respected, won big games, great passing/kicking game and most of all a f**king genuine halfback.
while henry would be great and i would be stoked if we got him, we need a grumpy old man leading the boys around, not a 19 yr old that is going to be in the slightest bit intimidated by some of the players.

His 35.
 

perverse

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you are completely wrong about uate.

  • his defence is improving steadily
  • he is the fastest player in the nrl
  • he gets the ball more at fullback in broken play i.e teams sh*t themselves
  • he is improving under the high ball
anyone with half an idea about rugby league will tell you he is way to big a talent to waste away on the wing.

as for gidley in the centres...
do you not watch Aus play at all?
he has covered there a few times and set up some good trys at centre, and has very rarely missed a tackle. gidley and vuna have the potential to be a great combination.
uate still gets caught out in defence massively on a regular basis, and i'd hate to see him going 1v1 or 2v1 on any linebreak. if by improving under the high ball you mean he has actually learned to catch low chips to the wing with zero pressure on him then sure, i agree. put a few bodies in motion around him, or 2 or 3 opposition players charging him down on a spiral bomb and it's a different matter altogether.

uate is an absolute star on the wing, and gidley is a star at fullback. i'm not a believer in fitting players into positions just because they are playing well... and weakening areas of our game to strengthen other areas. there is nothign wrong with our attack at the moment whatsoever, there are plenty of points in the team... and moving aku to fullback could only be seen as a move to improve our attack by weakening our defence game. uate gets tonnes and tonnes of ball returns from the wing against broken defensive lines as it is. there is no reason to change any of this, as it is already damaging in it's current form.

gidley filled in ONCE at national level in the centres, and set up a single good try with a lucky kick. his effort was admirable in that game and impressed me a lot, however once again there's a massive difference between filling in for half a game and playing there week to week. gidley has very few of the attributes required of a top line centre.

anybody with half an idea about rugby league would tell you that specialist wingers are a valuable commodity... and that fulbacks need ballplaying ability in this day and age. aku is a specialist winger and is improving in that position... not at fullback. aku has zero ballplaying skills and zero rugby league vision. can you honestly picture aku chiming in on backline movements, putting in deft long and short passes to centres? i certainly can't. can you see him taking the right option when a line break is made? can you see him catching a spiral bomb mid field, with 2 or 3 opposition players either bearing down on him, or competing with him for the ball?

there's just way too many problems with all of this to be worth considering. it's changing something that is tried, true and effective and putting question marks all over the place in return.
 
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League_God

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you make many valid points, in saying that, the fullback in today's game has a lot more attacking opportunities than wingers. i think it would worth it this year, if gids gets injured or moved into the halves, to throw uate in at fullback just to see how he goes. im confident he could be an absolute star there, given some time. btw aku can pass, he threw a nice ball back into gidley in the tits game AND i could swear ive seen him pass a few times in other games, but i dont really have an sources to back that up so meh
 

perverse

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You reckon? I think he'd be pretty good
i don't really think gids would be terrible as a centre, but i don't think he'd be a star either. i think it weakens the parts of his game that are strong, his workrate, fitness, enthusiasm. i just really feel that brian smith nailed gids in the fulback position... and that the only place you could get similar value from him might be hooker.

to give an (admittedly exaggerated) analogy, playing gids in the centres would be like taking your ferrari out on a rally course.
 

Yosh

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I'm with Pers about the Kids to centre.

Uate will be an awesome fullback and you know it Pers!
 

League_God

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i don't really think gids would be terrible as a centre, but i don't think he'd be a star either. i think it weakens the parts of his game that are strong, his workrate, fitness, enthusiasm. i just really feel that brian smith nailed gids in the fulback position... and that the only place you could get similar value from him might be hooker.

to give an (admittedly exaggerated) analogy, playing gids in the centres would be like taking your ferrari out on a rally course.

to be honest, i agree with most of what your saying, only i think gidley would be a very good centre.

there are 3 positions that would suit gidley the best, and centre isnt one of them, i think centre for gidley suits the TEAM the best, not his personal game or career.

lock, gidley will make 3000000 tackles every game, with very few missed, and would run great angles, and better hitups then what hilder has to offer. can chime in like he does atm, at dummyhalf, first and second receiver.

Hooker (similar to what he would do at lock)

and obviously fullback
 

Johns Magic

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i don't really think gids would be terrible as a centre, but i don't think he'd be a star either. i think it weakens the parts of his game that are strong, his workrate, fitness, enthusiasm. i just really feel that brian smith nailed gids in the fulback position... and that the only place you could get similar value from him might be hooker.

to give an (admittedly exaggerated) analogy, playing gids in the centres would be like taking your ferrari out on a rally course.

I dunno, I think he has good feet, good defence, would talk well to his winger and playmakers inside him, the ability to set up his outside man, and good instincts of when to pin his ears back and go for the line.

Not to say it would be the right move for team balance but I think he could be a good first-grade centre if he was moulded into one.

I was about to say I remembered him doing really well at centre when he first hit first-grade years ago. Looking it up, in 2003 he had 5 games in the centres, 3 tries, 5 linebreaks and 2 try-assists. We'd kill for a centre like that at the moment.

Again, not saying it's the right move for the team but I think Gidley has the talent to play at centre.
 

Pika

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you are completely wrong about uate.

  • his defence is improving steadily
  • he is the fastest player in the nrl
  • he gets the ball more at fullback in broken play i.e teams sh*t themselves
  • he is improving under the high ball
anyone with half an idea about rugby league will tell you he is way to big a talent to waste away on the wing.

as for gidley in the centres...
do you not watch Aus play at all?
he has covered there a few times and set up some good trys at centre, and has very rarely missed a tackle. gidley and vuna have the potential to be a great combination.

So we all thought.

He has been ran down twice in the last two weeks with open space in front of him.
 

Johns Magic

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Yeah I get the impression stacking on a whole lot of muscle has slowed Uate down somewhat. Still very fast but not the fastest in the competition.

Pika since you may actually know...any update on Taia's injury status?
 

League_God

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ball slows you down, and ive looked at the two times he has been ran down and it has been two very fast players, kemp and gordon. and the kemp run down he didnt pin his ears back he was thinking of the fullback. and the gordon run down, aku had a player holding on to his jersey while gordon had started running to catch him
 

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