Redcliffe put their hand up

[Perth Red]

93,000 on top of whoever else is watching in NSW and QLD is good though. If it was 2 sydney teams would there be as many people watching? it's the total national ratings that are important, not ratings per city and certainly not per capita. You would rather have 1% of china than 30% of Siberia.

only time nrl beats afl in metro ratings is when storm are on main channel in Melbourne.

 

[Perth Red]

In 1995 11 of 20 teams averaged more than 10,000.

Broncos 35,902
Warriors 26,450
Cowboys 21,670
Knights 21,215
Crushers 21,029
Raiders 15,683
Sea Eagles 14,722
Reds 13,390
Sharks 11,901
Bears 11,514
Bulldogs 11,341

https://afltables.com/rl/crowds/1995.html

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Haha

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

only time nrl beats afl in metro ratings is when storm are on main channel in Melbourne.

How many times have the Storm been on main channel?

Last year the highest drawing game in Melbourne only drew 68,000 for their Rd 1 game against Brisbane. AwFuL wouldn't have been playing that night.

I'd imagine the only time Ch9 put the Storm on the main channel in Melbourne is when there's no AwFuL on Ch7.

 

[Perth Red]

93,000 in Melbourne on the main channel is BAD! Ch9 could have gotten triple that by running a 1980s movie. The advertising rate for those 93,000 viewers would have been tiny.

Per capita does count as it shows what percentage of the population are watching. Advertisers want to know that their product is reaching a significant portion of the population.

https://tvblackbox.com.au/page/2019/10/08/2019-10-8-2019-nrl-season-by-the-numbers/

what absolute tosh! Advertisers care how many people are seeing their product not what the per head % is

the value is in the package. As a national company would I rather have my product seen by 350k in Sydney and Brisbane or 440k in Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne? I can tell you which one it is!

most tv shows barring the news and big ones wouldn’t be rating more than 150k in Melbourne, certainly not a rerun ancient movie. If we could get a regular nrl audience in Melbourne it would be massive for the game. Ask union what the impact of having your product buried on a tv secondary options is!

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Haha

Yeah, and?

Look what happened to them the next year and the year after that. The ARLC have probably taken notice of them.

 

[Perth Red]

Yeah, and?

Look what happened to them the next year and the year after that. The ARLC have probably taken notice of them.

haha

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

what absolute tosh! Advertisers care how many people are seeing their product not what the per head % is

the value is in the package. As a national company would I rather have my product seen by 350k in Sydney and Brisbane or 440k in Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne? I can tell you which one it is!

most tv shows barring the news and big ones wouldn’t be rating more than 150k in Melbourne, certainly not a rerun ancient movie. If we could get a regular nrl audience in Melbourne it would be massive for the game. Ask union what the impact of having your product buried on a tv secondary options is!

If there was any truth to the BS you're trying to spin then regional ratings would count just as much as the metros, wouldn't they?

More people live in regional Queensland and NSW than WA and SA combined. RL is king in regional Queensland and NSW. So, if we go by your geniused logic, that means RL is light years ahead of AwFuL and can command more money from advertisers.

Each station for each network in each metro area is separate and runs different commercials. It's not as if what is shown in Brissie during the commercial is also shown across Sydney, Melbourne, Perth and Adelaide.

Please tell me you weren't stupid enough to think advertisers always paid to have the same commercial run across the entire country on all stations of that network during the football?

Not all of the companies that advertise would be national. Companies like RT Edwards, Bing Lee and RetraVision might pay to take out a commercial in their respective market to advertise a big event.

To further illustrate the ignorance of your comment, advertisers DO care about per capita and so do the networks. The amount they charge for an ad in Brissie during a program that draws 90k viewers would be far higher than one in Melbourne that draws the exact same number.

 

[greenBV4]

I don't know what the deal is with juniors, someone at ground level in Melbourne would need to give some insight on that.

I'm in no way connected or have anything to do with NRL Vic but from what I can tell they are under funded with sub par facilities and management, if you were a parent living in an AFL state were would you send your kid to play sport? The more popular code with the shiny facilities or the other one with the rustly demoundable? The NRL needs to do more to sway more juniors into giving it a go, if you leave it to just happen naturally of course its going to be slow

and unfortunately I don't think the Storm really care, they are successfull and have one of the best development pathways in the league, they don't NEED vic juniors and investing into it in its current state would be a money pit

Just 3,500 registered players in the entire state.

When are you going to wake up and accept that the experiment has been a failure?

Since when is a club measured solely by its "local" juniors? Id say most stakeholders would care more about supporters, financial stability and success, all of which Melbourne is one of the best at

Clubs in competitions all around the world have players from anywhere, in the top tier you want the best players, not the local players, they aren't representative teams. Leave the "locals only" clubs for the lower and junior tiers

 

[greenBV4]

How many times have the Storm been on main channel?

Thats literally the problem

 

[Pippen94]

Thats literally the problem

No it isn't. Ppl not liking RL in Melbourne is problem. Can't expect channels to show programs which get low ratings

 

[Perth Red]

No it isn't. Ppl not liking RL in Melbourne is problem. Can't expect channels to show programs which get low ratings

You say that but if you look at the top rated shows for Melbourne on a Sunday the lowest rated shows are in the 60k's and non of the Nine Sunday showings rate at all in the top list. If NRL cant get 60k watching RL on a Sunday afternoon in a city of 5mill then there is something badly wrong with our sport.

 

[T-Boon]

Since when is a club measured solely by its "local" juniors? Id say most stakeholders would care more about supporters, financial stability and success, all of which Melbourne is one of the best at

Clubs in competitions all around the world have players from anywhere, in the top tier you want the best players, not the local players, they aren't representative teams. Leave the "locals only" clubs for the lower and junior tiers

Nobody expects the Storm to be locals only. But at least have one eye on developing locals and promoting the growth of the game in Melbourne. They have failed at that.

 

[greenBV4]

Nobody expects the Storm to be locals only. But at least have one eye on developing locals and promoting the growth of the game in Melbourne. They have failed at that.

Its shouldn't be up to the Storm, its up to NRL Vic and the NRL do be getting people to play the game in Victoria, and they are the ones failing at that.

In NSW/Qld grassroots are mostly funded by leagues clubs and not the clubs themselves are thay not? The Storm don't have a leagues club..

If the NRL starts putting in a bit more money and being a bit more proactive with the game in Victoria then maybe the Storm will start seeing some talent worth putting through their development pathways

 

[T-Boon]

Its shouldn't be up to the Storm, its up to NRL Vic and the NRL do be getting people to play the game in Victoria, and they are the ones failing at that.

In NSW/Qld grassroots are mostly funded by leagues clubs and not the clubs themselves are thay not? The Storm don't have a leagues club..

If the NRL starts putting in a bit more money and being a bit more proactive with the game in Victoria then maybe the Storm will start seeing some talent worth putting through their development pathways

The Storm shifted their reserve grade team to the Sunshine Coast. They basically couldn't even commit to a local reserve grade team. That's on the Storm. Failure.

 

[greenBV4]

The Storm shifted their reserve grade team to the Sunshine Coast. They basically couldn't even commit to a local reserve grade team. That's on the Storm. Failure.

There hasn't been a reserve grade comp in a while now..
Assuming your talking about the state leages, theyre in a partnership with the SC Falcons, like many other clubs are with Qcup sides, and the Thunderbolts junior sides are based at casey fields in Victoria?

 

[T-Boon]

There hasn't been a reserve grade comp in a while now..
Assuming your talking about the state leages, theyre in a partnership with the SC Falcons, like many other clubs are with Qcup sides, and the Thunderbolts junior sides are based at casey fields in Victoria?

Okay.
Still, I am really looking forward to the Storm slide after Bellamy and Smith go.

 

[Perth Red]

Its shouldn't be up to the Storm, its up to NRL Vic and the NRL do be getting people to play the game in Victoria, and they are the ones failing at that.

In NSW/Qld grassroots are mostly funded by leagues clubs and not the clubs themselves are thay not? The Storm don't have a leagues club..

If the NRL starts putting in a bit more money and being a bit more proactive with the game in Victoria then maybe the Storm will start seeing some talent worth putting through their development pathways

Brisbane has 71 jnr afl clubs. That’s what you can achieve if you set your mind to it.
Nrl is a sham when it comes to growing grass roots.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Brisbane has 71 jnr afl clubs. That’s what you can achieve if you set your mind to it.
Nrl is a sham when it comes to growing grass roots.

Fumbleball was played in Queensland in the 19th century before the Northern Union broke away from the RFU. Teams from Ipswich defeated the Essendon Bombers in the 1880s or 1890s.

The QAFL was around long before the VFL set up the Brisbane Bears. It's not a new thing. Kids were playing fumbleball up here and progressing to the VFL long before the Bears entered the competiton in 1987.

When I was a kid the Bears sent a player to our school to spread the game. None of us took it up.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Okay.
Still, I am really looking forward to the Storm slide after Bellamy and Smith go.

2021 is Bellamy's swansong year. I cannot see Scam Smith going around any longer.

 

[Perth Red]

2021 is Bellamy's swansong year. I cannot see Scam Smith going around any longer.

no problem. A spine of papa, Munster,Hughes and grant for the next 10 years will see us ok.