Redcliffe put their hand up

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

no problem. A spine of papa, Munster,Hughes and grant for the next 10 years will see us ok.

How do you know they won't get signed by some other club?

Ash Taylor is ofd contract soon. Maybe the Titans should put in a $1.2million offer for Harry Grant. He's a pretty good player to base a team around.

 

[T-Boon]

How do you know they won't get signed by some other club?

Ash Taylor is ofd contract soon. Maybe the Titans should put in a $1.2million offer for Harry Grant. He's a pretty good player to base a team around.

yeah the problem for the storm is who is going to replace Bellamy? There aren't many good coaches around. The Titans should try to get Bennett.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

yeah the problem for the storm is who is going to replace Bellamy? There aren't many good coaches around. The Titans should try to get Bennett.

Storm base their game around a rigid system that keeps everyone in line. When Bellamy goes that will change and they will have to adapt. It will be a huge culture shock for many of them.

 

[Diesel]

Not really expansion but if this covid shit is hanging around next year as it appears it will, the Warriors will be based at Redcliffe

 

[greenBV4]

Not really expansion but if this covid shit is hanging around next year as it appears it will, the Warriors will be based at Redcliffe

Is that confirmed? Playing at suncorp or dolphin Park?

 

[Pippen94]

Let's do this

 

[ash the bash]

Latest Redcliffe article they mention sharing games between Suncorp and Dolphin Oval with at least one game up on the Sunshine Coast. Also talks about their 100 million asset base.

Dolphins - 6 games Suncorp, 5 games Dolphin Oval, 1 Sunshine Coast.

 

[flippikat]

Latest Redcliffe article they mention sharing games between Suncorp and Dolphin Oval with at least one game up on the Sunshine Coast. Also talks about their 100 million asset base.

Dolphins - 6 games Suncorp, 5 games Dolphin Oval, 1 Sunshine Coast.

Money talks, and a $100M asset base screams "PICK ME!".

IMO it's not the *ideal* Brisbane 2 bid (I strongly believe that's Firebirds, playing all home games at Suncorp so that ground gets utilised every week), BUT the bottom line in these times matters more than ever.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the NRL may actually choose Redcliffe as club 17, then another heartland eastern seaboard club as 18 - either Central Coast Bears or one of the other Brisbane bids as a Brisbane 3 team.

It's bound to send those of us who are brazen expansionists into fits, but I can see it as a "bang for bucks" move - cheaper and less complicated logistics, gaining that valuable 9th game per weekend. Sorry New Zealand & Perth, but why add another team in the current climate that adds more border issues & high transport costs?

 

[ash the bash]

Its interesting, NRL & PVL have stressed the point club 17 should be one to have the least detrimental effect on Titans or Broncos. Now out of the current bids Bombers, Jets, Firehawks & Dolphins. You could argue the Dolphins would present the least threat on a number of factors. Distance from Gold Coast not 12 games at Suncorp etc..

I agree in terms of assets Easts Leagues club (Firehawks) would give Redcliffe leagues a run for their money.

Think I favour this hybrid model of games between Suncorp and Dolphin Oval. You could play the big games at Suncorp and still turn a profit on small games held at Dolphin Oval. As you say "bang for buck". Redcliffe would present a reasonably safe option for the NRL. At present the least secure would have to be the Bombers reliant on private money.

 

[flippikat]

Its interesting, NRL & PVL have stressed the point club 17 should be one to have the least detrimental effect on Titans or Broncos. Now out of the current bids Bombers, Jets, Firehawks & Dolphins. You could argue the Dolphins would present the least threat on a number of factors. Distance from Gold Coast not 12 games at Suncorp etc..

Good call on the "least effect on Broncos & Titans" statement. With that in mind, I wouldn't be surprised if club 17 is Redcliffe, then 2 seasons later club 18 is the Central Coast Bears.

That means a 9th game (more tv money), no club in Perth or NZ2 (no risk of snags if Covid is still an issue), "righting a wrong" for his heartland supporters, and causing minimum disruption to existing NRL clubs - especially with club 18 not encroaching on Broncos or Titans turf.

 

[The Great Dane]

Latest Redcliffe article they mention sharing games between Suncorp and Dolphin Oval with at least one game up on the Sunshine Coast. Also talks about their 100 million asset base.

Dolphins - 6 games Suncorp, 5 games Dolphin Oval, 1 Sunshine Coast.

Thus totally defeating the whole point of a second Brisbane team; to have a game at Suncorp every week.

If the Dolphins get a license it'll be a joke.

 

[The Great Dane]

Its interesting, NRL & PVL have stressed the point club 17 should be one to have the least detrimental effect on Titans or Broncos. Now out of the current bids Bombers, Jets, Firehawks & Dolphins. You could argue the Dolphins would present the least threat on a number of factors. Distance from Gold Coast not 12 games at Suncorp etc..

The biggest concern about a second Brisbane club impacting the Titans is that they'll suck up all their talent and sponsors.

In others words the fear is that a lot of potential Titans sponsors, corporates, players, etc, are only going to the GC because Brisbane isn't currently an option, and no matter where the club is based in Brisbane that is always going to be a problem at least hypothetically.

Personally I think people are dead wrong about the players, most of them will go where the most money and/or potential for success is, but I think the worry about sponsors and corporates jumping is a realistic concern.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Money talks, and a $100M asset base screams "PICK ME!".

IMO it's not the *ideal* Brisbane 2 bid (I strongly believe that's Firebirds, playing all home games at Suncorp so that ground gets utilised every week), BUT the bottom line in these times matters more than ever.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the NRL may actually choose Redcliffe as club 17, then another heartland eastern seaboard club as 18 - either Central Coast Bears or one of the other Brisbane bids as a Brisbane 3 team.

It's bound to send those of us who are brazen expansionists into fits, but I can see it as a "bang for bucks" move - cheaper and less complicated logistics, gaining that valuable 9th game per weekend. Sorry New Zealand & Perth, but why add another team in the current climate that adds more border issues & high transport costs?

As much as I want Brisbane to have 3 teams in the long run, I think the game would be best served handing the 18th licence to NZ2. It adds a vital fan friendly weekly Sunday timeslot for the broadcasters (4pm NZST/2pmAEST) that Brisbane and Perth does not. Brisbane 2 has to be 17th for the value it offers broadcasters, but NZ2 is just as vital if we're talking about a 9th game.

Perth does add a fortnightly 6pm AEST/4pm WAST game, but it adds nothing when the team has to travel to the east coast and does nothing for the NZ broadcast rights.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Its interesting, NRL & PVL have stressed the point club 17 should be one to have the least detrimental effect on Titans or Broncos. Now out of the current bids Bombers, Jets, Firehawks & Dolphins. You could argue the Dolphins would present the least threat on a number of factors. Distance from Gold Coast not 12 games at Suncorp etc..

I agree in terms of assets Easts Leagues club (Firehawks) would give Redcliffe leagues a run for their money.

Think I favour this hybrid model of games between Suncorp and Dolphin Oval. You could play the big games at Suncorp and still turn a profit on small games held at Dolphin Oval. As you say "bang for buck". Redcliffe would present a reasonably safe option for the NRL. At present the least secure would have to be the Bombers reliant on private money.

Great post.

The big advantage of adding Redcliffe is it will allow more people to get to games. It's far easier to travel from Sunshine Coast to Redcliffe than Milton.

 

[mongoose]

Great post.

The big advantage of adding Redcliffe is it will allow more people to get to games. It's far easier to travel from Sunshine Coast to Redcliffe than Milton.

its also far easier to travel from anywhere south of the river to Milton than it is to Redcliffe

 

[mongoose]

As much as I want Brisbane to have 3 teams in the long run, I think the game would be best served handing the 18th licence to NZ2. It adds a vital fan friendly weekly Sunday timeslot for the broadcasters (4pm NZST/2pmAEST) that Brisbane and Perth does not. Brisbane 2 has to be 17th for the value it offers broadcasters, but NZ2 is just as vital if we're talking about a 9th game.

Perth does add a fortnightly 6pm AEST/4pm WAST game, but it adds nothing when the team has to travel to the east coast and does nothing for the NZ broadcast rights.

i don't understand your logic... why does a Perth team have to add to the NZ broadcast rights? why is the NZ timeslot more valuable than the Perth timeslot? (4pm good for crowds, 6pm good for ratings). I am all for a second team in NZ but your arguments on why it is more valuable than Perth don't make any sense.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

i don't understand your logic... why does a Perth team have to add to the NZ broadcast rights? why is the NZ timeslot more valuable than the Perth timeslot? (4pm good for crowds, 6pm good for ratings). I am all for a second team in NZ but your arguments on why it is more valuable than Perth don't make any sense.

Is Sky News NZ going to fork over big bucks to the ARLC when there's just 1 team in NZ and a game each Sunday fortnight in Perth, which starts at 8pm NZST?

2 NZ teams, a game played in NZ each Sunday at 4pm NZST, will draw more viewers for Sky Sports NZ than one a fortnight in Perth at 8pm NZST. Kids will be in bed by then and people who need to be awake early for work will be getting ready to shower, brush their teeth and head to bed.

It begs the question, if the 9th game is played in Perth every Sunday fortnight at 4pm WAST/6pm AEST/8pm NZST, which slot is it put it when Perth has to travel to the east coast?

A Perth team will not add anything to the Australian rights. Foxtel is tied up until 2027, which leaves Ch9 and the other FTAs as the driver for extra income. None of them stand to gain anything from a Perth team as it will not draw strong ratings anywhere.

The growth potential in NZ is far greater than Perth. RL has a chance to make serious inroads in NZ via NZ2 that will strengthen player numbers, revenue and the onfield success of the Kiwis.

The best bet for Perth is for their consortiun to buy out Balmain's 20% share in the Wests Tigers, buy another 30% from Magpies and rename the team Western Tigers or Western Magpies. 6 games in Perth, 6 at Campbelltown/Parramatta.

 

[mongoose]

you keep picking out one metric and using it to judge whether a team in valuable or not, this time it's ratings in New Zealand. So Perth is not valuable because people in NZ won't watch them? seriously?
Who said Skysports is going to fork out big money for a second NZ team anyway? do they even have the money considering they are owned by the same company as Fox?

I like the idea of a second NZ team but Perth has 2 million people, it's bigger than Auckland and probably the whole south island. There is plenty of room and opportunity for League over there, only people stuck in the past can't see that.

 

[MugaB]

Redcliffe would present a reasonably safe option for the NRL. At present the least secure would have to be the Bombers reliant on private money.

Along with a terrible branding of a "Isis or Bali terrorist" where Dolphins is extremely child friendly in comparison.
I had thought NZ (Auckland 2)would be the 18th club, but the more sense you make the more i feel the bears getting a return, (Politis at work making Sydney strong)

 

[LeagueXIII]

Along with a terrible branding of a "Isis or Bali terrorist" where Dolphins is extremely child friendly in comparison.
I had thought NZ (Auckland 2)would be the 18th club, but the more sense you make the more i feel the bears getting a return, (Politis at work making Sydney strong)

I would love the bears to be back...it would be one of the biggest goodwill gestures the league could do....it would put a surge right through the game like when the rabbits came back.
And while they are at it stop teams chopping and changing their jerseys...I know they make money from it...but it dilutes the clubs identity