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Perth Red

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4 in SEQ yes, including the titans and a team on the Sunshine Coast down the line, but 4 from just Brisbane is rediculous

Sunshine Coast entire region only has a population of 350k and no major corporate presence. No stadium and no major LC backed RL club. Won’t happen.
 

greenBV4

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Sunshine Coast entire region only has a population of 350k and no major corporate presence. No stadium and no major LC backed RL club. Won’t happen.
by 2050 like his scenario they may come into the conversation (depending where the NRL is at at that time) but yeah I agree, there are other bigger markets that should come in way ahead of the SC

3 teams in SEQ (roughly 1 per 1mil) is perfect until these other markets are properly covered
 
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Let’s see if Brisbane2 does anything before getting excited about 3&4 lol. Last thing we’d want is another Sydney over saturation situation whilst other major cities in Australia and NZ have zero presence.
FFS...

Brisbane is the second largest RL city in the world. If you think 3 or 4 teams in RL's second largest city is "oversaturation" then you need a shrink!

How many soccer teams are there in London?

I never hear you whinge about the amount of AwFuL teams in Melbourne.

I think you just want to weaken RL in Brisbane and Sydney because you know it's the only way England will ever be able to compete against Australia.

You do realise that Adelaide and Perth don't care about RL, right?

Are you stupid enough to think these areas can be won over by giving them a club they don't want, and that it should be at the expense of the 1st and 3rd largest cities that have proven over the last 110 years that they are the backbone of the game?

Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth chose fumbleball over RL long before you were born.

I hate this insane socialist mentality that those who put in the effort to achieve and build something great should be punished and have the fruit of their labour given to the lazy and apathetic. That's what your idiotic "expansion and rationalisation" theory is based on. Brisbane and Sydney adopted RL in 1908 and built it into what it is today. You want to bulldoze that history to the ground.
 

Perth Red

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London metro region has 14.5 million people and 6 epl clubs. So by your logic we don’t need another Brisbane club till Brisbane population reaches 4 mill lol

there are too many afl clubs in Melbourne and they draw. Crowd. They are having to carry 2-3 and have tried over the years to encourage at least one of them to move out. What they haven’t done is allow their over saturation to stifle expansion.

Grow up, this is business not social engineering!
 
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Most would agree there is too many teams in Sydney (but just cant agree which teams to go, or how to remedy that, so are just happy with the status quo)
and if you were setting up a new comp from scratch you would probably only have 4 or 5 teams in Sydney metro

so why would we have 4 teams in a city with less than half the population
Are you incapable of reading?

I said 4 teams by 2050!

Not 2021!

The ABS says Brisbane's population could be as high as 4,560,822 by 2050.

http://stat.data.abs.gov.au/Index.aspx?Queryid=1080
 
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London metro region has 14.5 million people and 6 epl clubs. So by your logic we don’t need another Brisbane club till Brisbane population reaches 4 mill lol

FMD you're a deceitful prick. I said SOCCER clubs. Not EPL. There are far more than 6 professional soccer clubs in London competing in the EPL, EFL, and lower divisions drawing bigger crowds than the London Broncos drew when they were in the Super League.
 
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5 in the EPL, and Londons population is 9 million

you want 4 NRL teams in Brisbane, population 2.3 million

American Football started in Ohio, how many NFL teams do they have?
I said 4 by 2050, when the population will be 4,500,000.

You're saying that you cannot have 4 teams in 2050 because the population in 2020 was 2.4 million. It's insane.
 

Perth Red

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What you also want to include all semi professional and amateur soccer clubs
wtf are you on about?
If you’re talking about ft professional clubs, which after all is what you’re talking about, it’s 9.
 
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And what will the other cities population be by that time? will they all get more teams as well?
And when did i mention 2021?
Neither Adelaide nor Perth will be as big as Brisbane by 2050.

Twice now you have mentioned Brisbane's current population and used it to argue against having 4 teams in Brisbane by 2050.
 

greenBV4

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FMD you're a deceitful prick. I said SOCCER clubs. Not EPL. There are far more than 6 professional soccer clubs in London competing in the EPL, EFL, and lower divisions drawing bigger crowds than the London Broncos drew when they were in the Super League.
if your going to include those then include the QRL clubs to brisbanes tally?
 

Perth Red

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And Perth’s population is predicated To be 3.5million by 2050 and you don’t want a team there, youre fcking dumb as dog Sht!
 

greenBV4

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Twice now you have mentioned Brisbane's current population and used it to argue against having 4 teams in Brisbane by 2050.
Because its all relative, Brisbane isn't the only city growing in the country

Melbourne will be the countries largest by a fair margin by 2050 btw, maybe the NRL will need to start enticing the southern states as the focus shifts away from Sydney
 
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And Perth’s population is predicated To be 3.5million by 2050 and you don’t want a team there, youre fcking dumb as dog Sht!
Tell me Mr Illiterate, how well were the London Broncos received in a city that had 7.5 million people in 2000?

They were drawing about 500-2,000 people to their games in 2010. It's proof that only idiots plonk teams in large cities that don't care about the game and think it will translate into success.

The NRL doesn't want a team there because it's a rusted on fumbleball city that hates RL with a passion. You're so stupid you haven't been able to realise that, despite living there for 20 years. It doesn't matter if they have 3.5 million people by 2050, it will still be a fumbleball city that cannot get an average of 50,000 people to watch on TV.
 
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Because its all relative, Brisbane isn't the only city growing in the country

Melbourne will be the countries largest by a fair margin by 2050 btw, maybe the NRL will need to start enticing the southern states as the focus shifts away from Sydney
Only by 600,000.

Melbourne 2050
9 615,000
Sydney 2050
9,084,000

It still wont change the fact that fumbleball is number 1 in Melbourne in 2050 by a fair margin.

Look at the London Broncos in a city that already has 9,000,000.
 
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Grow up, this is business not social engineering!
FMD.

The reason the NRL hasn't expanded into Perth is precisely because the game is a business!

It cannot afford to prop up unwanted teams in rusted on fumbleball cities that offer little in return.

You're not smarter than the people running the ARLC. Get that through your thick skull.
 
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if your going to include those then include the QRL clubs to brisbanes tally?
QRL clubs are semi-professional.

EFL is fully professional and has international players from all over the world earning good money in it. It is televised all around the world and is well attended. The division under that also has players from all over the world earning money and is well supported.
 

Pippen94

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by 2050 like his scenario they may come into the conversation (depending where the NRL is at at that time) but yeah I agree, there are other bigger markets that should come in way ahead of the SC

3 teams in SEQ (roughly 1 per 1mil) is perfect until these other markets are properly covered
Seq has population of 4 million - 4 teams located there is not crazy
 

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