Redcliffe put their hand up

[Pippen94]

Because its all relative, Brisbane isn't the only city growing in the country

Melbourne will be the countries largest by a fair margin by 2050 btw, maybe the NRL will need to start enticing the southern states as the focus shifts away from Sydney

Well after corona this is not likely to be case

 

[greenBV4]

Well after corona this is not likely to be case

We will see, 1 year is a blip when we are talking about 30 years time - but yes it will probably have some effect

 

[Pippen94]

We will see, 1 year is a blip when we are talking about 30 years time - but yes it will probably have some effect

2050 projections are just a guess as well really

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

PR's lack of self-awareness says it all. He stated it's a business, not social engineering, despite telling us for years that the 2 cities that bring money into the game should be hamstrung so that unwanted teams in fumbleball strongholds can be created, with the goal of converting them to RL. It's funny yet sad how some one can be so bloody thick.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Well after corona this is not likely to be case

That's a great point. The projections were made when interstate migration was flowing into Melbourne in higher numbers than any other city. After the way Victoria has bungled this crisis, and the dictatorship of the Andrews Government on full display, people will be looking to move out of Melbourne, not into it.

 

[Perth Red]

f**k off with your perth hates RL BS you idiot

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

f**k off with your perth hates RL BS you idiot
View attachment 42858

3 of the last 4 NRL games at Perth Oval drew Western Reds 1996 style crowds. NRL hasn't taken any more premiership games back to Perth.

NRL Nines in Perth drew shit crowds.

Of course PR blamed the NRL.

Manly vs NZ
01-Jul-2017
Attendance 6,258

Manly vs NZ
Perth Oval 16-Jul-2016
Attendance 11,109

Souths vs Melbourne
21-May-2017
Attendance 11,433

https://afltables.com/rl/crowds/perth_o_vn.html

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

It will be great to have the Dolphins in the NRL. $100M in assets to their name. A worthy team for the NRL.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

London metro region has 14.5 million people and 6 epl clubs. So by your logic we don’t need another Brisbane club till Brisbane population reaches 4 mill lol

there are too many afl clubs in Melbourne and they draw. Crowd. They are having to carry 2-3 and have tried over the years to encourage at least one of them to move out. What they haven’t done is allow their over saturation to stifle expansion.

Grow up, this is business not social engineering!

Football is the most popular sport, both in terms of participants and spectators, in London.[1] London has several of England's leading football clubs, and the city is home to twelve professional clubs, several dozen semi-professional clubs and several hundred amateur clubs regulated by the London Football Association, Middlesex County Football Association, Surrey County Football Association and the Amateur Football Alliance.[2] Most London clubs are named after the district in which they play (or used to play), and share rivalries with each other.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_in_London#:~:text=Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur are London's most,traditionally hosted the FA Cup Final since 1923.

The current metro area population of London in 2020 is 9,304,000, a 1.38% increase from 2019.

https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/22860/london/population#:~:text=Chart and table of population level and growth,2020 is 9,304,000, a 1.38% increase from 2019.
​

Perth Red is a liar!

The population isn't 14.5M like he claimed. It's 9.3 million. It has 12 professional clubs, not the 6 he claimed. So that's less than 1 million people per club. And the blowhard reckons Brisbane shouldn't be allowed to have a 2nd professional RL club until 20 or 30 years!

In 2050 Brisbane's population will be 4.5M. If London can support 12 professional soccer clubs spread out over 9.3M people, there's no reason Brisbane cannot support 4 NRL clubs in 2050 spread out over 4.5M people.

By 2050 I would like to see the Broncos kicked out and the following clubs representing Greater Brisbane's 4.5M residents.

Dolphins (Norths/Redcliffe)
Jets (Wests/Ipswich)
Seagulls (Easts/Wynnum)
Scorpions (Souths/Logan)

Dolphins has to be 1st cab off the rank.

 

[Perth Red]

Idiot. As of 2019, the population of the London metropolitan area was approximately 14.37 million people, an increase of 2.3 million when compared with 2002.

https://www.statista.com/statistics...ndon-metropolitan-area-in-the-united-kingdom/

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Idiot. As of 2019, the population of the London metropolitan area was approximately 14.37 million people, an increase of 2.3 million when compared with 2002.

https://www.statista.com/statistics...ndon-metropolitan-area-in-the-united-kingdom/

That's not what this site says.

"The current metro area population of London in 2020 is 9,304,000, a 1.38% increase from 2019."

https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/22860/london/population#:~:text=Chart and table of population level and growth,2020 is 9,304,000, a 1.38% increase from 2019.​

Or this one.

POPULATION OF LONDON IN 2019:
To find out the population of London in 2019, the population for the previous 5 years needs to be checked. They are as follows.

2014 –8.5 Million
2015 –8.674 Million
2016 – 8.69 Million
2017 – 8.768 Million
2018 – 8.8396 Million
The population of London in 2019 can be found out after calculating the population figures from the last 5 years as mentioned above. Is it seen that the population in the past 5 years has gone up by around 0.3396 Million. Also, each year the population increases by 0.06792 Million in terms of aggregate. Hence, the population of London in 2019 is expected to be 8.8396 Million + 0.06792 Million = 8.90752 Million. Therefore, the population of London in 2019 as per estimates is 8.90752 Million.

London Population 2019 – 8.90752 Million ( estimated)

https://ukpopulation2019.com/population-of-london-2019.html#:~:text=Hence, the population of London in 2019 is,Million. London Population 2019 – 8.90752 Million (estimated)​

Or this one.

The latest official estimate of the population of London comes from the Office for National Statistics. According to their data, the estimated population of Greater London in 2016 is 8,787,892.

The Census in the United Kingdom takes place every ten years, with the most recent one completed in 2011. According to this census, the population of London was 8,173,941. The next census in England and Wales is scheduled for 2021.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/london-population
​

Your source says this.

The London metropolitan area covers an area that is larger than Greater London, and includes areas from which it is possible to commute to London for work.
​

That's not how we define a metro area in Australia, so knock off the deceptive comparison. If you're going to use that BS definition then you would have to include Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast in the Brisbane metro area, as people from both regions travel to Brisbane for work. I also know people who travel from Brisbane to Sunshine Coast and Gold Coast for work. So add another 1,000,000 to Greater Brisbane's population.

Brisbane's metropolitan area has a population of over 2.5 million,[11] and the South East Queensland metropolitan region, centred on Brisbane, encompasses a population of more than 3.6 million.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brisbane​

 

[greenBV4]

That's not what this site says.

"The current metro area population of London in 2020 is 9,304,000, a 1.38% increase from 2019."

https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/22860/london/population#:~:text=Chart and table of population level and growth,2020 is 9,304,000, a 1.38% increase from 2019.​

Or this one.

POPULATION OF LONDON IN 2019:
To find out the population of London in 2019, the population for the previous 5 years needs to be checked. They are as follows.

2014 –8.5 Million
2015 –8.674 Million
2016 – 8.69 Million
2017 – 8.768 Million
2018 – 8.8396 Million
The population of London in 2019 can be found out after calculating the population figures from the last 5 years as mentioned above. Is it seen that the population in the past 5 years has gone up by around 0.3396 Million. Also, each year the population increases by 0.06792 Million in terms of aggregate. Hence, the population of London in 2019 is expected to be 8.8396 Million + 0.06792 Million = 8.90752 Million. Therefore, the population of London in 2019 as per estimates is 8.90752 Million.

London Population 2019 – 8.90752 Million ( estimated)

https://ukpopulation2019.com/population-of-london-2019.html#:~:text=Hence, the population of London in 2019 is,Million. London Population 2019 – 8.90752 Million (estimated)​

Or this one.

The latest official estimate of the population of London comes from the Office for National Statistics. According to their data, the estimated population of Greater London in 2016 is 8,787,892.

The Census in the United Kingdom takes place every ten years, with the most recent one completed in 2011. According to this census, the population of London was 8,173,941. The next census in England and Wales is scheduled for 2021.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/london-population​

Depends if your taking the City of London or Metro London (the latter being what we in Aus call "greater")

As of 2019, the population of the London metropolitan area was approximately 14.37 million people

https://www.statista.com/statistics...ndon-metropolitan-area-in-the-united-kingdom/

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Depends if your taking the City of London or Metro London (the latter being what we in Aus call "greater")

As of 2019, the population of the London metropolitan area was approximately 14.37 million people

https://www.statista.com/statistics...ndon-metropolitan-area-in-the-united-kingdom/

You've got it all wrong.

When we say Metropolitan we are basically saying Greater. It is made up of cities that are connected to one another by continuous urban sprawl. What Poms refer to as Greater is sort of like a Metro area, except it is made up of LGAs and is classified as a County, which is something we don't have. Counties have their own government. When soapdodgers say Metro they are referring to the county area plus regions that people travel from to work in the greater area. It says so on PR's link.

If you want to compare apples with apples, then the South-east Queensland metropolitan area should be used, as it includes areas that people travel from to work in Brisbane's metro area. You could even add northern NSW to the SEQ metro area's population.

The City of London had 9,401 people.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_London

Greater London has 8,961,989

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_London

The London metropolitan area includes London and its surrounding commuter zone (the area in which it is practicable to commute to work in London). It is also known as the London commuter belt,[1] or Southeast metropolitan area.[2]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_metropolitan_area​

 

[greenBV4]

You've got it all wrong.

When we say Metropolitan we are basically saying Greater. It is made up of cities that are connected to one another by continuous urban sprawl. What Poms refer to as Greater is sort of like a Metro area, except it is made up of LGAs and is classified as a County, which is something we don't have. Counties have their own government. When soapdodgers say Metro they are referring to the county area plus regions that people travel from to work in the greater area. It says so on PR's link.

If you want to compare apples with apples, then the South-east Queensland metropolitan area should be used, as it includes areas that people travel from to work in Brisbane's metro area. You could even add northern NSW to the SEQ metro area's population.

The City of London had 9,401 people.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_London

Greater London has 8,961,989

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_London

The London metropolitan area includes London and its surrounding commuter zone (the area in which it is practicable to commute to work in London). It is also known as the London commuter belt,[1] or Southeast metropolitan area.[2]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_metropolitan_area​

Greater London has less people than the City of London? Poms are weird

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Greater London has less people than the City of London? Poms are weird

City of London has less people than Greater London. What PR is referring to as London is not what we mean when we say Brisbane, Sydney or Melbourne. It would be like Sydney including Central Coast and Wollongong.


Poms are weird. They refer to "trucks" as "lorries", "soft drinks" as "fizzy drinks". Over here a lorrie is a lorikeet bird. They put their washing machines in the kitchen.

 

[Perth Red]

The clubs you have listed are in the London metro region, not all in the city of London! You can’t have it both ways lol.
Either way we need brisbane 2 closely followed by perth with plans for Adelaide and nz2 in the next ten years. The game does not need to be wasting spots on 4 clubs in one mid size city.

 

[mongoose]

really, we are comparing the NRL to English football which has 90-110 professional teams across 5 divisions?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

The clubs you have listed are in the London metro region, not all in the city of London! You can’t have it both ways lol.
Either way we need brisbane 2 closely followed by perth with plans for Adelaide and nz2 in the next ten years. The game does not need to be wasting spots on 4 clubs in one mid size city.

The game doesn't need Perth or Adelaide, especially in the next 10 years. NZ2 will improve RL's standing in NZ. I'd even go as far as to say NZ3 should be introduced sometime around 2040.

Bris 2
NZ2
Bris 3
NZ 3 or Bris 4

One day a Sydney team will be squeezed out of that market. Perth would be the ideal place for it to adopt as its new home. A relocated Sydney team is going to receive more perks than a new brand that doesn't have any connection to the Sydney centric ARLC.

I fear Adelaide is a pipedream. There's no bid from there.

The Pirates bid is buggered if it's reliant on Peter Cumins. His business is only worth a tenth of what it was trading for a few years back.

Whether you like it or not, there are plenty of Brisbane bids from the north, west and southeast of the city, by consortiums that are asset rich and have strong brand appeal dating back 60+ years. They cover a range of areas that are under-represented and would benefit the game if included. The fact there are so many shows just how strong the game is in Brisbane and how stupid the NSWRL/NRL have been to sideline established BRL clubs since 1988. It would be stupid to reject them for two smaller fumbleball cities that hate the game with a passion. The Perth media was very hostile to the Reds in the 90s and it's even more fumbleball centric now that the Eagles and Dockers are well established. The ARLC has no intention of ever putting a team in either Adelaide or Perth and none of the other clubs would want them in.

Contrary to what mongoose says, that horrid 6 hour flight from Perth to the east coach is a hindrance to players who are severely injured while playing in Perth. When Yow Yeh broke his leg at Perth Oval he was stuck in Perth for months because the 6 hour plane flight could have killed him.

 

[Perth Red]

This is thread is on Redcliffe/Brisbane 2, we have a wa thread if you want to talk about perth!

what sort of spare cash is the dolphins league club generating annually?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

This is thread is on Redcliffe/Brisbane 2, we have a wa thread if you want to talk about perth!

what sort of spare cash is the dolphins league club generating annually?

This all began when you ridiculed the idea of the Dolphins and 3 other clubs representing Brisbane.

I am very passionate about the BRL. When it is disrespected I stand up in defence of it.

Dolphins Leagues Clubs is one of the richest sporting clubs in the country.

Up The Mighty Phins