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Riccios’ Reality.

Cheese sandwich

First Grade
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Got some more tonight. It's a pity they don't seem to retain the lessons and make any improvement
I don't think there's any improvement left in a single one of them tbh, the reality is last season was their peak and due to them all being re-signed there is absolutely no room left to even begin any sort of squad rebuild over the next 2 seasons.

Not bottom 3 teams bad but that next titans/knights level up tier is where we'll be at next season.
 

Quicksilver

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I don't think there's any improvement left in a single one of them tbh, the reality is last season was their peak and due to them all being re-signed there is absolutely no room left to even begin any sort of squad rebuild over the next 2 seasons.

Not bottom 3 teams bad but that next titans/knights level up tier is where we'll be at next season.
I don't know why this no improvement left thing has suddenly become so.popular?

There is talent in that squad. They've been up there with the best attack all season.

They can improve by simply making better decisions and cutting out errors.

There is a stack of improvement that can be made in defensive structure and tackling technique/ wrestle. we simply aren't competing in the ruck and it's throwing everything out from there.

The longer a team plays together the better they generally get at the above.

In my opinion the squad doesn't need a total overhaul but a few changes here and there.And It's inevitable that there will be at least a few small changes.
 

Griffoshark66

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I don't think one of our middles would get a start at another top 8 club. We just can't lay a platform and other teams know it. We're fugged until some of these plodders f**k off.
 

Chimp

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We desperately lack a big minutes play 1 prop forward - BHU, Hunt, Toby would all look infinitely better running off the back of an elite prop taking that first hit up and winning the floor - getting us on the front foot.
A good example is the Cowboys, JT13 was so much better when they had Matt Scott taking that first tough carry and getting their sets off to a good start. It’s no coincidence JT13 has not been as good or effective since Scott retired.
A Tino/Haas/NAS/JFH/AFB is what we need more than anything else. There’s lots of potential still in what is a young squad - when we’re on top, our back line can look fantastic.
A top drawer prop (AFB would be my preference), a wrestle/defensive contact coach and Brailey being an attacking threat (he needs to chance his arm more - more attacking kicks, more running, actually trying to burrow over for a try every now then) would transform us to serious contenders.
 

Quicksilver

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I don't think one of our middles would get a start at another top 8 club. We just can't lay a platform and other teams know it. We're fugged until some of these plodders f**k off.

We've had a few injuries in the middle that hasn't helped.

I'm wondering if they could do a bit more strength training through the off-season.

I feel like maybe we had the intention to just run teams around with an open style of play this year?

It worked for a while but it's not anymore. Maybe we just need to play a bit more traditionally and train for that style of play.
 

Inferno

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I've been thinking about Riccio's comments in relation to the inexperience of our team. It's something I hadn't considered and it bears thinking about.

In descending level of experience our pack is:

Finucane - 248
McInnes - 172
Nikora - 105
BHU - 94
Williams - 93
Kaufusi - 88
Toby - 75
Teag - 62
Hunt - 50
Hazleton - 14

I agree to an extent, we're not likely to see the best out the pack until they're more experienced about it, but the problem as I see it is there has been little improvement in most of them over the past 25-50 games particularly when you think about BHU, Toby and Hunt. All three are benchies and had their best seasons for us off the bench.

Those three are far too inconsistent and the difference between their best games and their worst is quite stark. Kaufusi I agree is worth persisting with because he is at least more consistent and less error prone. Wilton will definitely improve and is quite young. Hazleton is showing a lot of promise and IMO has solidified himself as a bench option.

I'd be getting rid of 1 or 2 of BHU, Toby and Hunt and looking for someone who is a true forward leader and is a legit starter. Finucane and McInnes fit the role but are too small. Hazleton could get there but probably not for 2 or 3 seasons.

Unless this changes I can't see this team doing much different than they are now, beating up on the lesser teams and struggling to match it with any of the top 8 sides.
 

Craigshark

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I've been thinking about Riccio's comments in relation to the inexperience of our team. It's something I hadn't considered and it bears thinking about.

In descending level of experience our pack is:

Finucane - 248
McInnes - 172
Nikora - 105
BHU - 94
Williams - 93
Kaufusi - 88
Toby - 75
Teag - 62
Hunt - 50
Hazleton - 14

I agree to an extent, we're not likely to see the best out the pack until they're more experienced about it, but the problem as I see it is there has been little improvement in most of them over the past 25-50 games particularly when you think about BHU, Toby and Hunt. All three are benchies and had their best seasons for us off the bench.

Those three are far too inconsistent and the difference between their best games and their worst is quite stark. Kaufusi I agree is worth persisting with because he is at least more consistent and less error prone. Wilton will definitely improve and is quite young. Hazleton is showing a lot of promise and IMO has solidified himself as a bench option.

I'd be getting rid of 1 or 2 of BHU, Toby and Hunt and looking for someone who is a true forward leader and is a legit starter. Finucane and McInnes fit the role but are too small. Hazleton could get there but probably not for 2 or 3 seasons.

Unless this changes I can't see this team doing much different than they are now, beating up on the lesser teams and struggling to match it with any of the top 8 sides.

yep, Hunt and Rudolf can go. BHU when fit is good, he just seems to have horrible luck with injuries just as he looks like he is about to explode in form. Far out it would be good to offload Finucane. Flannnooooo come and help us out one last time.
 

Weaponhead

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By comparison, The Donks have
Haas 98
Flegler 89
Carrigan 78
Capewell 133
Riki 61
Hetherington 50
Taupau 241
Palasia 46
Willison 9

Similar experience to the Sharks. Until this season they have been very inconsistent.

The main differences are current SOO and International players and a top organising half in Reynolds to direct them. Haas and Carrigan are a great 1, 2 punch.

Riccio's point about experience is reasonable but at nearly 100 games in our blokes should be aiming up by now.
 

Frenzy.

Post Whore
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I've been thinking about Riccio's comments in relation to the inexperience of our team. It's something I hadn't considered and it bears thinking about.

In descending level of experience our pack is:

Finucane - 248
McInnes - 172
Nikora - 105
BHU - 94
Williams - 93
Kaufusi - 88
Toby - 75
Teag - 62
Hunt - 50
Hazleton - 14

I agree to an extent, we're not likely to see the best out the pack until they're more experienced about it, but the problem as I see it is there has been little improvement in most of them over the past 25-50 games particularly when you think about BHU, Toby and Hunt. All three are benchies and had their best seasons for us off the bench.

Those three are far too inconsistent and the difference between their best games and their worst is quite stark. Kaufusi I agree is worth persisting with because he is at least more consistent and less error prone. Wilton will definitely improve and is quite young. Hazleton is showing a lot of promise and IMO has solidified himself as a bench option.

I'd be getting rid of 1 or 2 of BHU, Toby and Hunt and looking for someone who is a true forward leader and is a legit starter. Finucane and McInnes fit the role but are too small. Hazleton could get there but probably not for 2 or 3 seasons.

Unless this changes I can't see this team doing much different than they are now, beating up on the lesser teams and struggling to match it with any of the top 8 sides.
Where's Brailey - 103?
 

Frenzy.

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BTW

Riccio's Reality is 4 months late.

The forum's greatest thinker had this shit pegged in April

 

Quigs

Immortal
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At the time you only posted that graph because you were grovelling and crawling as usual.
 

Frenzy.

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At the time you only posted that graph because you were grovelling and crawling as usual.
The forum's greatest thinker had this shit pegged in April.

Who are the Emu's playing in the GF? I want to get on the opposition.
 

Quigs

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Playing the Poonies from Yeppoon (last years Premiers). They are friendly guys, they'd probably let you mount one or two of them if you still want to get on 'em.

The Emus played them three times this year for two draws and a loss after the bell through an imbecile whistle blowing howler.
 

Special K

Coach
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If you look at our spine we have

Kennedy - quiet, shy
Moylan - quiet, shy
Trindall if Moylan isn't there - quiet, shy
Nicho - Reserved, thoughtful. He isn't quiet or shy but I wouldn't call him a dominant vocal voice
Brailey - quiet, shy


Guys like Moylan, Trindall and Brailey aren't shy in the group but put them in a room full of strangers by themselves they'd stfu. We need an Ennis type in the spine. We need someone to rip into people. I think Nicho is the ducks nuts but he needs someone more experienced than him guiding him which Moylan can't. Adam Reynolds and Nicho woulda been a hell of a 1-2 punch for us.
 

bluefox68

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We desperately lack a big minutes play 1 prop forward - BHU, Hunt, Toby would all look infinitely better running off the back of an elite prop taking that first hit up and winning the floor - getting us on the front foot.
A good example is the Cowboys, JT13 was so much better when they had Matt Scott taking that first tough carry and getting their sets off to a good start. It’s no coincidence JT13 has not been as good or effective since Scott retired.
A Tino/Haas/NAS/JFH/AFB is what we need more than anything else. There’s lots of potential still in what is a young squad - when we’re on top, our back line can look fantastic.
A top drawer prop (AFB would be my preference), a wrestle/defensive contact coach and Brailey being an attacking threat (he needs to chance his arm more - more attacking kicks, more running, actually trying to burrow over for a try every now then) would transform us to serious contenders.
Of those - who is available?
Tino or Haas? Throw the cheque book at them!
 
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If you look at our spine we have

Kennedy - quiet, shy
Moylan - quiet, shy
Trindall if Moylan isn't there - quiet, shy
Nicho - Reserved, thoughtful. He isn't quiet or shy but I wouldn't call him a dominant vocal voice
Brailey - quiet, shy


Guys like Moylan, Trindall and Brailey aren't shy in the group but put them in a room full of strangers by themselves they'd stfu. We need an Ennis type in the spine. We need someone to rip into people. I think Nicho is the ducks nuts but he needs someone more experienced than him guiding him which Moylan can't. Adam Reynolds and Nicho woulda been a hell of a 1-2 punch for us.
The scary thing about Kennedy, Moylan and Brailey already has seasons of first grade.
Compare Reece Walsh to Kennedy he is loud annoy calls for it and less experience then Kenndy
 

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