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Compound fracture to his hand. The chick that does the sideline for ABC described it as quite a nasty looking injury. He would need it pinned at least.
Tragic news. :sarcasm:
Compound fracture to his hand. The chick that does the sideline for ABC described it as quite a nasty looking injury. He would need it pinned at least.
Not saying you're wrong, but how do you know that?
We would be the only team in the comp where our winger is our highest paid player
he was a winger at Manly and Toutai has to go
Not having a crack at you specifically El D, but why would anyone put Morgan at centre in place of Hoppa who has been one of our best so far IMO? From memory, Morg's played on the wing in the 20's and only played in the centres in the last couple of seasons out of necessity due to our lack of depth.
Fair enough, but wouldn't having Hoppa on the wing mean he would get less ball and less space to work in? He's a lot more dangerous a ball runner than Morgan is IMO.Morgan would have played wing in NYC because in the lower grades wingers are far less involved and Morgan lacked the size to dominate at NYC level. In junior footy, wingers are just the outside backs not big enough to play centre.
But in the NRL wingers need size more than centres because they make so many tough carries like kick returns and hit ups. Morgan wouldn't be much of a winger. I know he's not small compared to normal people, but for an NRL outside back he is smaller than average. His best position is centre, whereas Hopoate is equally good at wing or centre.
Newcastle with Uate on the wing? Dragons with Morris on the wing?
Fair enough, but wouldn't having Hoppa on the wing mean he would get less ball and less space to work in? He's a lot more dangerous a ball runner than Morgan is IMO.
Has Kelly improved himself since he's come to us? imo he hasn't, he's stayed the same and hasn't had to work for his jersey he's been granted it because first Kearney brought him over and he was handed it. And now BA has gifted it to him just because he coached him in the 20's. Maybe we should bring Billy Rogers back because BA coached him in the 20's?
They weren't assumptions, they were opinions, as he clearly stated with the use of imo.That's a lot of assumptions.
You think he's in FG only because he's Brad Arthur's mate? Or maybe he's impressed BA with his work at training. Maybe knows the potential of Kelly more than we do and is working him towards realising it.
See, I can make assumptions too.
As for him not having improved at the Eels, he has only played 25 games with us. That's one season - and that time has been interrupted by injury, or spent behind a woefully bad forward pack and trying to pass it to terrible outside backs.
I'm not the biggest Kelly fan in the world (though it may sound like it right now) but I'm just trying to be a the voice of reason. Sandow, for all his talents has been nothing short of disgraceful for us and yet now everyone wants him back in the side. Give Kelly a few more weeks to get better, and let Sandow work on his game at Wenty.
They weren't assumptions, they were opinions, as he clearly stated with the use of imo.
Has Kelly improved himself since he's come to us? imo he hasn't, he's stayed the same and hasn't had to work for his jersey he's been granted it because first Kearney brought him over and he was handed it. And now BA has gifted it to him just because he coached him in the 20's. Maybe we should bring Billy Rogers back because BA coached him in the 20's?
Oh, and imo, Kelly is not capable of getting any better, what you see is all he has got,
Besides the two mistakes he made early I thought Gower went well.
If people are not sold on Kelly or Sandow, why dont we try Norman at 7, Hayne at 6 and Hoppa at 1?
Bring in Morgs to take Hoppa's jersey?
Sadly I think you are right. , I would bring Sandow in for Kelly, Sio for Toutai and start Kelepi and bring junior Paulo on the bench.
But in the NRL wingers need size more than centres because they make so many tough carries like kick returns and hit ups. Morgan wouldn't be much of a winger. I know he's not small compared to normal people, but for an NRL outside back he is smaller than average. His best position is centre, whereas Hopoate is equally good at wing or centre.
He would get less early ball on shift plays (backline moves) but how much early ball do centres get anyway? Receiving the ball at the line is what stops defenders being able to get numbers into the tackle out wide, and allows outside backs to get one-on-one opportunities.
Centres don't get that many carries anyway. At least on the wing you get kick returns and most of the following carries as everyone else gets back onside. The main reason to play Hopoate at centre is for his defence, and Morgan is almost as good.
Maybe so but Morgan is quicker then Hoppa meaning when he gets outside someone he is less likely to be chased down which is more important for a winger.
Also we have seen someone like Vai who is incredibly strong but does not know how to uses it while Morgan is opposite and is pretty difficult to handle.
In comparing size:
Vai - 186cm/101kg
Sio - 185cm/95kg
Semi - 190cm/98kg
Morgan - 185cm/93kg
Hopoate - 186cm/95kg
Now Semi is tallest of the lot but weighs less then Vai yet he breaks more tackles. To me this indicates size does not equal ability to run hard and make meters.
You say Hoppa has the size to play in the centre and on the wing and morgan is much the same size
Sio has done well on the wing in the past outside of his inability to catch a high ball but yet he is very similar in size to Morgan.
What hoppa has that Morgan doesn't is the ability to play to his outside man and obviously his defence is superior. Morgan has all the facets in his game to make a good winger like being good under the high ball, decent defender, speed and good finishing ability. BTW i still think Sio is our best option for Vai wing spot especially considering his goal kicking ability but Morgan would also be a decent option.