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Rolling Stones 500 Greatest Songs

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Interesting...

Be my Baby by the Ronettes at number 22. Spectre song. I have his collection on CD, brilliant stuff.

Pretty decent cross section of music in the list. Maybe the order could be different though.

And f**k hip hop.
 

Raiders Plight

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Captain Dread said:
- 117 out of 500 are Bob Dylan, Rolling Stones or Beatles tracks.

so they're trying to tell us that those 3 artists alone own 23% of the greatest music ever made, f**k off! what a bunch of arse kisses.
 
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what a shit list?
who buys music magazines anyway (and who even buys music)

i'd prefer to listen to music than read about it

any news i want to know i'll find on the internet
 

Paullyboy

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PARRA_FAN said:
ACDC's Back in Black should be higher than 187.

The guy's that were doing this list mustve been smoking something. :roll:

I think they weren't smoking enough, they jumped on the semi-fringe songs like a kid in grade 9 trying to pretend he is cool enough to hang out with the seniors at high school.

Pathetic list.
 

Anonymous

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CliffyIsGod said:
Thierry Henry said:
Was there a single East Coast hip-hop track in that list from 1990 onwards? That's a very large chunk of often acclaimed and extremely popular music to ignore.

It says "Greatest"...

In terms of popularity, influence, and musical quality, not having a single song by the likes of Nas, Mobb Deep, any Wu Tang member, or Notorious B.I.G, is pretty ridiculous. What sh*ts me the most is the token songs by Run DMC, Public Enemy, Sugarhill Gang etc. No doubt these are great songs, but surely the point in including them is that they are old-school hip hop staples that inspired the massive wave of popularity that hip-hop has been riding ever since? And therefore, it's absurd not to include a single song from the era of hip-hops greatest popularity, and yet heap praise on the songs that inspired that popularity.
 

Anonymous

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And as much as I love OutKast, I think it pretty much sums up the list when they make top quality, commercially successful rap music consistently for a decade, but can only make Rolling Stones little list by releasing a cross-over pop hit :roll:
 

Fire Storm

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Rolling Stone have no credibility after that. Satisfaction better then Good Vibrations which should've been number one?



Sure RS. Sure. RS or BS?
 

Anonymous

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Sure RS. Sure. RS or BS?

So many people seem to be missing the point here.

This isn't Rolling Stone magazine's opinion. They just compiled the list. The asked a list of approximately 170 musicians, record company execs, producers, industry experts and writers what they thought were their 50 greatest songs of all time. They then compiled the results to get the top 500.

Don't blame Rolling Stone for the results. Blame the music industry for electing these songs as the songs they view as the greatest songs of all time.
 
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Thierry Henry said:
In terms of popularity, influence, and musical quality, not having a single song by the likes of Nas, Mobb Deep, any Wu Tang member, or Notorious B.I.G, is pretty ridiculous.

Who?

Thierry Henry said:
What sh*ts me the most is the token songs by Run DMC, Public Enemy, Sugarhill Gang etc. No doubt these are great songs, but surely the point in including them is that they are old-school hip hop staples that inspired the massive wave of popularity that hip-hop has been riding ever since? And therefore, it's absurd not to include a single song from the era of hip-hops greatest popularity, and yet heap praise on the songs that inspired that popularity.

I've heard of Run DMC and Public Enemy.

Spot the diference.

And what massive wave of hip hop?

FFS, the only song I can recall in the last 5 years that I'd call acceptable under that banner is Hey Ya by Outkast. And there's no way that song can be classed as anything but Pop.

And none of it compares to 95% of that list.
 

Anonymous

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woah. It's EA, on the case in a flash as usual.


I've heard of Run DMC and Public Enemy.

Spot the diference.

You're old, so are they. Duh.

And what massive wave of hip hop?

LOL

FFS, the only song I can recall in the last 5 years that I'd call acceptable under that banner is Hey Ya by Outkast. And there's no way that song can be classed as anything but Pop.

Agreed. I already mentioned that. That song isn't hip-hop at all, but Outkast are. They have a string of excellent rap albums behind them.
 
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So why haven't I, a middle class white man heard any of them?

And Hey Ya was a great song. It seems that even so called "rap artists" or "hip hop artists" can still smell where the big $'s are.

Pop.

Please tell me you understand what Pop stands for.
 

Anonymous

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These days, "pop" stands for "hip-hop". It dominates the charts, surely you are aware of that. The artists you claim never to have heard of (Nas, Wu Tang etc) have pretty much all had albums in the top 5, if not #1 in the US pop charts.
 

frank

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I agree with most of the songs' inclusion in the list, but not the positions in which they've been ranked.

Tracks Of My Tears and My Girl definitely deserve top 10 status. Top 20 at least.
 
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Thierry Henry said:
These days, "pop" stands for "hip-hop". It dominates the charts, surely you are aware of that. The artists you claim never to have heard of (Nas, Wu Tang etc) have pretty much all had albums in the top 5, if not #1 in the US pop charts.

Crap.

Pop stand for popular music.

If a band like Outkast's biggest hit isn't rap and isn't hip hop, what is it?

You said yourself that "Hey Ya" wasn't hip hop.

Define it, categorise it.

And how many hip hop albums are listed on a "biggest selling of all-time" list?

f**k all I'd reckon, beaten by N'Sync and the Dixie Chicks.
 

Anonymous

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And how many hip hop albums are listed on a "biggest selling of all-time" list?

For the sake of some balance in this argument...

Notorious B.I.G.'s 'Life After Death' is the 68th highest selling album of all time with more than 10 million.

The Beastie Boys come in at 103rd, with their 9 times platinum 'License to Ill'.

113 is 2Pac with All Eyez on Me - 9 times platinum.

116 is Will Smith.

117 is 2Pac's Greatest Hits, also 9 times platinum.

Eminem rounds out the bottom end of the list, with a number of 8 times platinum albums. Outkast's Love Below/Speakerboxxx also makes the cut at 8 times platinum.
 

Samwise

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Everlovin' Antichrist said:
Thierry Henry said:
These days, "pop" stands for "hip-hop". It dominates the charts, surely you are aware of that. The artists you claim never to have heard of (Nas, Wu Tang etc) have pretty much all had albums in the top 5, if not #1 in the US pop charts.

Crap.

Pop stand for popular music.

If a band like Outkast's biggest hit isn't rap and isn't hip hop, what is it?

You said yourself that "Hey Ya" wasn't hip hop.

Define it, categorise it.

And how many hip hop albums are listed on a "biggest selling of all-time" list?

f**k all I'd reckon, beaten by N'Sync and the Dixie Chicks.

isn't the best music that which defies categorisation? The stuff that forces the invention of labels for new genres? btw i'm not talking about rap/hip hop/ pop which i'd classify outkast as.
 
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Captain Dread said:
And how many hip hop albums are listed on a "biggest selling of all-time" list?

For the sake of some balance in this argument...

Notorious B.I.G.'s 'Life After Death' is the 68th highest selling album of all time with more than 10 million.

The Beastie Boys come in at 103rd, with their 9 times platinum 'License to Ill'.

113 is 2Pac with All Eyez on Me - 9 times platinum.

116 is Will Smith.

117 is 2Pac's Greatest Hits, also 9 times platinum.

Eminem rounds out the bottom end of the list, with a number of 8 times platinum albums. Outkast's Love Below/Speakerboxxx also makes the cut at 8 times platinum.

So, there are 67 more popular albums out there than the 1st rap/hip hop album.

I rest my case.

Pop music isn't rap or hip hop. They're still alternative.

Where's Brittney on the list?

And notorious big and tupac had something going for them that most artists don't have.

Great marketing.

;-)
 

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