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Round 1 2013 Line Ups

tangalife

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Shaun Johnson IS pretty big for a halfback, he only appears small because he used to be a 68kg runt who has bulked over the last couple of years (so has progressively got bigger) and is pretty soft (i.e he plays like hes about 10 kg lighter). I also reckon he lost some speed this year, or at least desire to run fast lol. Ever watch him on defence? Slow, only quick when hes got the ball in hand.

Johnson - 91/92 kg
Thurston - 81 kg
Prince - 82 kg
Marshall - 89 kg
Wallace - 87 kg

Bigger then all them for a start.
 

Warrior@Heart

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Fittler was pretty big, so was Barrett and they went alright. Johnson just needs to improve his defence and get more involved. Needs to be a little more like Foran on D and DCE on attack.
 

Iafeta

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I agree he needs to get himself involved. There's been periods in games where he's absolutely dominant - 10 minutes in the Grand Final, 15 minutes in round 1 against Manly as examples - where he absolutely tears teams apart almost singlehandedly... but before hand or after is not overly involved. IMO, the Warriors need Johnson and they need Mateo, as they're the two most creative players in the team by a mile, but for sure Johnson needs to involve himself more.
 

ozbash

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I agree he needs to get himself involved. There's been periods in games where he's absolutely dominant - 10 minutes in the Grand Final, 15 minutes in round 1 against Manly as examples - where he absolutely tears teams apart almost singlehandedly... but before hand or after is not overly involved. IMO, the Warriors need Johnson and they need Mateo, as they're the two most creative players in the team by a mile, but for sure Johnson needs to involve himself more.

Agree, but 1 of them has to be in charge.
 

Diesel

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If we are under the cap by that much and the owners are publicly saying they'll spend whatever it takes, why haven't we made a play for backs? Excluding Quade

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...ade-quade-cooper/story-fn8tk0tu-1226523422551
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RENEGADE rugby union player Quade Cooper has been dealt a dose of reality, with every NRL club slamming the door on a code switch.

Tomorrow, at the Brisbane Convention Centre, Cooper will officially announce his plan to stage a boxing bout on the undercard of the latest Sonny Bill Williams sideshow against 44-year-old Francois Botha in February.

As world champion Danny Green pointed out last week, Cooper calling himself a boxer is like Green announcing his intention to takeover as the Wallaby five-eighth.

It's an insult to all the great names to have graced Australian pugilism over the past 50 years such as Lionel Rose, Jeff Fenech, Jeff Harding and Daniel Geale.

Cooper has been labelled a mercenary and high maintenance after walking away from his contract negotiations with the Australian Rugby Union.

Quade to remain silent on future
And no NRL club is prepared to take a risk on the former Queensland Reds playmaker, with all 16 clubs contacted by The Sunday Telegraph issuing an emphatic "no".

Despite the New Zealand Warriors having ample room to accommodate Cooper, new coach Matthew Elliott branded him too much of a risk.

"He's obviously a sublime talent, but at this stage we're not in a position to take the risk," Elliott said.

"We are in a position where we do have some freight and we are looking at halves and outside backs, but we're not in a position to speculate that much money on a player coming from union to league."

It was a similar story at every other rugby league club.

From premiers Melbourne Storm to wooden-spooners Parramatta, no club was prepared to gamble on what Cooper might be able to bring to the table.

Surprisingly, Cooper found an ally in triple world champion boxer Jeff Fenech.

Fenech argued Cooper was only trying to make as much money as possible during his time as a professional athlete.

But he could also understand how his dalliance with boxing was a slap in the face for every up-and-coming amateur boxer or pub fighter dieting and training seven days a week for a shot at a decent purse.

"I don't begrudge Quade Cooper wanting to make a dollar, but I do feel sorry for all the fighters out there who are dieting and starving themselves to try and get a shot at the big time and then these other guys with the big names can just come in and trade off their reputations," Fenech said.

No question, the former Wallaby No. 10 can be brilliant with the ball in his hands. But defensively, as evidenced during the Australia's ill-fated World Cup campaign, Cooper is a huge liability.

And he's coming off a major knee reconstruction.

The reality for Cooper now is he's going to have to play rugby union in France or Japan and bide his time for Wallabies coach Robbie Deans to be sacked.

With Deans out of the picture and Ewen McKenzie his obvious successor, the door will re-open for Cooper to re-negotiate a new ARU deal.
 
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Rich102

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"We are in a position where we do have some freight and we are looking at halves and outside backs, but we're not in a position to speculate that much money on a player coming from union to league."

What does he mean by "freight"? Is he implying we have money to spend or we have excess baggage to offload?
 

ozbash

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Cooper isnt a "sublime" talent, in fact he's pretty flakey.

I agree with Danny Green.
 

Iafeta

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I'd say he means ability to make a move - IE they have some coin available and they are aware of some potential options.
 

Skinner

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As a logistics person who has dealt with freight most of his working life. I have never heard it directly refer to money. There are phrases such as , freight paid, free freight etc but it's a fairly long bow......
 

ozbash

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LeagueNut

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If we are under the cap by that much and the owners are publicly saying they'll spend whatever it takes, why haven't we made a play for backs?
The Folau --> Eels deal might be falling over thanks to the salary cap. I don't think Folau wants to be in NZ (snob) so maybe we could buy another Eel instead? Who else have they got though??
 
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