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Round 1 v Manly game thread

eels_fan

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If we'd lost tonight, the same people now saying "Manly were weak competition & lacklustre" would have been saying "we got beaten by a more settled/experienced/quality opposition that will challenge for the title"
 

TheRam

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If we'd lost tonight, the same people now saying "Manly were weak competition & lacklustre" would have been saying "we got beaten by a more settled/experienced/quality opposition that will challenge for the title"


Ah but they didn't, therefore they're not.
 

Casper The Ghost

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After the trial against the Panthers I thought we would easily beat Manly, predicted 22 points, that our line speed in both attack and defence had improved a fair bit and would cause Manly lots of trouble which it did and that De Gois will play a major role in our clubs success throughout the year.

Was surprised Peats started, thought it would be the other way around but it worked well because our attack and defence went up a few more notches when De Gois came on. Bar injuries, our two hookers will take us at least to a top 6 finish this year.

And Sandow to win the Dally M this year.

The real test is next week against the Dogs. If we beat them then I'll start getting a lot more excited.

I also reckon Lyon played injured tonight and with Manly having quite a few of their better players out, plus losing their 4 earlier in the 1st half gave us an easier game to win.

Sandow and Norman played blinders - two best players on the field tonight with at least another 10 Eels players a whisker behind.
 
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T.S Quint

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Boy have we got some major issues in defense out wide. Robinson, Tak and Champion are all very ordinary in just reading simple numbers. Radradra is still learning and Sandow, well we all know his short comings due to size.

It was a great win, but when the game was still in the balance, we made the same unforced errors and penalty give a ways as we have always done in the past. Nothing has changed there.

In the positive column, our line speed and physicality appears to have improved out of sight compared to previous years. But considering the lackluster opposition, I can't get to excited with that at this stage either.

If anyone is wondering why the coach ain't to happy after such a good win, these are the reasons. When you can't hold onto the ball, give away silly consecutive penalties, and get turned inside out, out wide defensively, while totally dominating a piss poor opposition pack, then there is plenty of reason for concern and the coach knows it, even when you eventually go on to blow them off the park, not because of your great footballing abilities, but mainly due to your larger more physical presence.

Like I said, we have many issues in our backline and against the bigger and more skillful teams, I fear those deficiencies will become obvious even to the most enthusiastic eels supporters.

On Hopa. We have the slowest fullback in the comp. He is very talented, but speed is vital in his position. So we shouldn't expect to many great moments from him, like chiming in with speed and busting the line wide open like all the great fullbacks can and do.

In fact I have a feeling that coach, may eventually move him back to centre after a couple of months. He will give him apple opportunity to make the position his, but I don't think long term he will it in that position.

What I think will happen, is when coach finally has had enough of our backline conceding simple line breaks and tries, If he can find another player from the lower grades that he feels could handle fullback, he will drop Champion and move Hopa into the centres again.

Or he will move Robinson to the back. Either way, if the backline doesn't improve defensively and Hopa doesn't contribute with sparkling mojo to the backline, expect these sort of changes to take place as the season unfolds.

Good to see you're full of positives tonight Ram.
 

T.S Quint

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Ram I agree that we always seemed to be short one defender on the edges. But the scramble was certainly good, and the boys certainly aimed up with a bit of oomph when defending on the goal line.
The rub of the green certainly didn't fall our way...sure they had a try called back but that was more than balanced by a missed forward pass leading up to the first try , and the line drop out call when the ball was clearly not played at by our defender ( think it was Semi) Some 50/50's seemed to favour the eagles more as well
Parra certainly tried to gift Manly the game in the middle part of the first half with as BA says , lack of ball control

I was pretty much right in line with that pass and it was 100% forward.
 

T.S Quint

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I was looking forward to coming home from the game and watching it again...little did I know I would have to suffer through some of the worst commentating I've ever heard.

Tim Gilbert makes me long for Ray Hadley to come back. Yep, he is THAT bad! Unbearable.

Also, Phil Gould would give our team no credit whatsoever. Whenever something went right for us, it was because Manly did something bad. Manly weren't good, and their forwards were getting pummeled - but Gould would just talk about how Manly needs to do something about this as opposed to talking up these big, physical Parramatta players.
 
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Highlight of the night - Junior Paulo putting Lawrence on his back and we got the penalty because he couldn't handle it
 

half_back

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Fantastic win although BA is on the money. We destroyed their pack, despite a few errors between them Lussick and Moeroa (throw in Choc and Jnr) were a wrecking crew racking up the big hit highlight reel footage early. It exposed Manly soft underbelly and despite their star halves and backline, with no time and space they couldn't hurt us too much. It also gave our halves the time and space to run riot. Next week though we meet probably the most brutal pack, who we won't be able to intimidate so easily. The mistakes will be magnified so BA is right not to get carried away. Let's enjoy this one then step it up for the Dogs. Really hope moeroa and Jnr are both good to go.
 

Bandwagon

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so we are now equal with the bunnies on +30 how does the nrl decide how to rank two teams with the same for & against?

Percentage, so rewards the team with less points conceded.

If that is the same, then its a count back on trys scored.
 

Joshuatheeel

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Manly definitely have a few issues, how could they pick Mateo. What did he do during the offseason - he was so unfit and over weight, f**k look at his belly !!! Most NRL coaches wouldnt have a let a player in that shape take the field.
 

Gazzamatta

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To be honest, I thought De Gois shouldn't be in our top 17. Now I think he's a better dummy half than Peats. And almost as good in defence.

Poo. Please stop. I find myself agreeing with you way too much recently. Not sure if Ive changed or you. That said I think Peats was enormous as well. For a bloke who hasnt played forever all points towards continued improvement. DeGoise was very fast.
 
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