Round 10 Panthers V Storm

[ColdWetPanther]

I'd be astounded if Bellamy moved Munster to fullback for a game of such little consequence. Meaney is an experienced fullback. He would have been signed to replace Hynes. Not using him only damages his confidence.

Surely Bellamy isn’t trying to play mind games? Wasn’t it a thing on here about a month ago that only bad coaches do it?

 

[BxTom]

Surely Bellamy isn’t trying to play mind games? Wasn’t it a thing on here about a month ago that only bad coaches do it?

I had the same thought

 

[Iamback]

Surely Bellamy isn’t trying to play mind games? Wasn’t it a thing on here about a month ago that only bad coaches do it?

Half the backline is out.

I wouldn't call that mind games. More being undecided

 

[snickers007]

Surely Bellamy isn’t trying to play mind games? Wasn’t it a thing on here about a month ago that only bad coaches do it?

He's kinda made his own bed now. Cooper Johns and Tui Kamikamika on the extended bench. Not much wiggle room there.


In other news, I'm unable to watch live tonight. I have a hot date. Unfortunately it's with my missus (lol). We haven't had a night to ourselves for a long ass time, so I guess the footy can wait. Will be doing my best to avoid spoilers and catch it up tomorrow morning.

Go Panthers!

 

[Smug Panther]

Surely Bellamy isn’t trying to play mind games? Wasn’t it a thing on here about a month ago that only bad coaches do it?

Bad ones do it every week and fool no one

 

[Smug Panther]

Hughes now out, this has gone from game of the year to meh. Very disappointing

 

[DinkyDi]

Ivan Cleary to miss Magic Round match

Penrith Panthers coach Ivan Cleary will miss tonight’s clash against Melbourne Storm at Suncorp Stadium due to medical reasons.

www.penrithpanthers.com.au

 

[Girds89]

Hughes now out, this has gone from game of the year to meh. Very disappointing

Were did you hear that??

Tbh i think this all plays into melvs favour.

I certainly wouldnt be writing them off no matter who is out.

We arent in good form and anything less than close to our best and melbs will be hard to be regardless to who is out.

If they were full strength in the form they are in i wouldnt give us much a chance atm.

We need to improve a lot from last week. Nathan in particular.

Weve seen what a top quality kicking game can do to a team like the broncs.

Reynolds kicking is one of the main factors in turning them around. Walters alluded to it last night.

Cleary needs to land every kick tonight a few meters out from the goal line. And put in grubbers and mix it up in attacking positions.

 

[Panther Pete]

Hughes now out, this has gone from game of the year to meh. Very disappointing

This will be a good indication of where we are at if we cant beat them without Paps, Hughes, Smith and however else they are missing.

 

[Panfa]

The weather is crap up at suncorp raining and field looks chopped up a bit.

 

[Smug Panther]

Were did you hear that??

Tbh i think this all plays into melvs favour.

I certainly wouldnt be writing them off no matter who is out.

We arent in good form and anything less than close to our best and melbs will be hard to be regardless to who is out.

If they were full strength in the form they are in i wouldnt give us much a chance atm.

We need to improve a lot from last week. Nathan in particular.

Weve seen what a top quality kicking game can do to a team like the broncs.

Reynolds kicking is one of the main factors in turning them around. Walters alluded to it last night.

Cleary needs to land every kick tonight a few meters out from the goal line. And put in grubbers and mix it up in attacking positions.

Nathan needs to be better. Luai needs to do something.....bloody anything. Started the year so well then has been coasting. His personality should mean he'll fire here

 

[Girds89]

Nathan needs to be better. Luai needs to do something.....bloody anything. Started the year so well then has been coasting. His personality should mean he'll fire here

Your too hard on luai.

Imo the issue is the way hes being used.

As i said last week ivan has him stuck to a structure.

Wouldnt it be good to see him jump into 1st reciever and play the yeo role, say, 6 to 10 times throughout the game. Especially at the back end of halfs when yeo is fatigued but also the other teams middles are fatigued..

Thatd be what id so if i was coach..get him imto first reciever in the middle of the field. Play direct at the line and use his speed and step..

Do it a few times and if he runs every time itll drag players in closer together in the middle. Than on the 3rd or 4th time.. dig in deep in to the line but instead of tacking the tackle spread it wide to nathan.. defence should be jammed in so itll create space for the outside men.

Weve essentially seen luai do the same thing for 2.5years now and that has to be down to coaching....

Ivan needs to wake up sto himself and get creative. Luai is a weapon running the ball but he just isnt doing it enough.

My theories on why are:
1. that now he plays exclusivley on the left... so hes running into halfs and 2nd rowers who are more mobile.
2. The halfs and 2nd rowers arent getting fatigued as much as weve gone away from the patience game and we try and score off every play. So theres less clear oppurtunities for him to run.

I think this can kinda been proven too. Throw back to 2020 we were the best team in the comp at getting set restarts... it was probably the best year luai had in terms of running the ball. Wed just get 3 or 4 sets in a row and luai would pick his time to run and carve up exhausted blokes..

Last year pre origin we were playing similar and luai was in insane form.

Since post origin 2021 we seem to have gone away from that patience style of game plan. We grubber for set restarts less than 1/4 of what we used too.

So the oppurtunites for luai to carve up tired defenders just isnt coming about as much..

I understand that sometimes you dont need to get set restarts against the poorer teams as we can just score when we get down there with ease.

But yourself and others never complain about luai when we are smashing teams by 20 and scoring with ease..

Its only after a tough hard game when he isnt carving up or running as much that he gets a hammering.

We dont utilise luai as much as we should.. a lot of that comes back on ivan and the game plans.

Needs to give him more control and trust him..

Weve seen in the past what luai can do when he just plays hes natural game at first reciever. He can carve teams up..

Issue was last year with nath put he wanted both burto and laui to play like nath and cleary and it just didnt work.

If i was coach id be giving luai way more control and getting him into first reciever at the back end of the halfs.

 

[murraymob]

Cleary needs to mix his kicking game not just bomb and hope.while it is wet the ball is sticking and staying in the in goal.giving the grubbed kick through a real positive today

 

[Iamback]

He's kinda made his own bed now. Cooper Johns and Tui Kamikamika on the extended bench. Not much wiggle room there.


In other news, I'm unable to watch live tonight. I have a hot date. Unfortunately it's with my missus (lol). We haven't had a night to ourselves for a long ass time, so I guess the footy can wait. Will be doing my best to avoid spoilers and catch it up tomorrow morning.

Go Panthers!

The joys of Kayo.

enjoy

 

[Iamback]

Hughes now out, this has gone from game of the year to meh. Very disappointing

Should help their kicking game.

Gone from 3 fullbacks in the spine to one.

 

[DinkyDi]

Were did you hear that??

Tbh i think this all plays into melvs favour.

I certainly wouldnt be writing them off no matter who is out.

We arent in good form and anything less than close to our best and melbs will be hard to be regardless to who is out.

If they were full strength in the form they are in i wouldnt give us much a chance atm.

We need to improve a lot from last week. Nathan in particular.

Weve seen what a top quality kicking game can do to a team like the broncs.

Reynolds kicking is one of the main factors in turning them around. Walters alluded to it last night.

Cleary needs to land every kick tonight a few meters out from the goal line. And put in grubbers and mix it up in attacking positions.

Jahrome Hughes out of Magic Round

Jahrome Hughes has been ruled out of Magic Round.

www.melbournestorm.com.au

 

[Smug Panther]

Nathan Cleary literally won a game on his own only 2 weeks ago and the knives come out. He's allowed an off week here and there

 

[Iamback]

Nathan Cleary literally won a game on his own only 2 weeks ago and the knives come out. He's allowed an off week here and there

He is missing tackles
Missing conversations that he normally gets.

He will improve but is down like a few others in the team

 

[Crashtest]

Nathan Cleary literally won a game on his own only 2 weeks ago and the knives come out. He's allowed an off week here and there

Agree. But the same applies to Luai though. Yes he has been quiet the last 2 weeks, but was great before that, especially in the first month with Nathan out.

 

[Crashtest]

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The 3rd article mentions that Nathan needs only 4 more points to reach 11,000, and become the 2nd youngest player in premiership history to reach 11,000 career points.

Unless he has an absolute shocker game and misses all conversion attempts, what a great achievement it will be for him tonight to reach this milestone.