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Round 10 Panthers V Storm

Aliceinwonderland

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She said we don't coach so therefore can't have an opinion. Not very reasonable.

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You're always a good voice of reason Alice..

I don't have a problem with differing opinions. In my original post I explained my reasonings for such an opinion......ie football knowledge.

Obviously that isn't good enough for you Westylife. In my original post I didn't single any one person out. It was a comment (an opinion) that I stand by. You're quite happy to fling around poo, as long as being done by you.
 
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We can end this argument by saying I am right and you are all wrong
Now back to the game .Interesting stat Melbourne have won 14 of the last 15 minus Papenhuyzen.Shows how interchangeable there side is.still think we will win in a close one
Hopefully it is 14 out of 16 after this.

Also, Penrith have won 16 of the last 18 without Momo…. That’s dealing with Roosters level adversity.
 

Fangs

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The reason I don’t think you can win is the Rhyno curse he is a huge anchor to your club .Banish that merkin and you may get tickets to watch us win again.hindy our new panther supporter

Kinda like how the Dragons had to get rid of every member of the 99 grand final side before they could win another premiership.

Coach Nathan Brown included (Who drops a half on the day of a semi? For Ben Rogers no less).

In Parramatta's case this extends to Rhyno. The scar tissue is just the surface.
 

The_Frog

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We can end this argument by saying I am right and you are all wrong
Now back to the game .Interesting stat Melbourne have won 14 of the last 15 minus Papenhuyzen.Shows how interchangeable there side is.still think we will win in a close one
Nick Meaney is a serviceable fullback, but Papenhuyzen he aint. Excellent buy though, probably on modest money with Pap being somewhat injury prone and Hynes, who would have been the 1 in most of the wins above, seeking bigger money elsewhere. It does give them vulnerabilities in the back 5, which Nathan will be looking to exploit.
 

Iamback

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None of this has anything to do with the stats you posted on martin...

Stats can be beneficial but they can also be decieving.

The stats u posted about martin arent a true reflection on how he is going in comparison to other 2nd rowers.

Theres deadset plodders whose stats are better but play in losing teams......

Martin fills hes role perfectly.

He will start for nsw this year or be a benchie.... pretty sure freddy doesnt count on the stats u do other wise he would be 27th in line or something....

Hes been really good this year taking over capes..

Bigger issues we have is ivan sticking with kenny and salmon.... braindead

So why do you think we are a 50 point worse defence than last year?

Again not blaming Martin alone but the right side numbers seemed pretty low

Kenny and Salmon goes with what other coaches are doing.
 
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snickers007

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So why do you think we are a 50 point worse defence than last year?

Defence is down all across the competition. Season 2022 is producing an extra 4 points per game compared to similar time last year. Likely a result of the tweak to the 6-again rule, teams are getting out of their own end and into attacking position easier.

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Ignore me. Maths fail. It's the other way around - 2022 is 4 points worse off per game.
 
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Defence is down all across the competition. Season 2022 is producing an extra 4 points per game compared to similar time last year. Likely a result of the tweak to the 6-again rule, teams are getting out of their own end and into attacking position easier.
Makes sense, plus the Storm Thumping teams weekly adds to that.
 

The_Frog

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So why do you think we are a 50 point worse defence than last year?

Again not blaming Martin alone but the right side numbers seemed pretty low

Kenny and Salmon goes with what other coaches are doing.
Rule changes would be a start. It's harder to keep teams pinned in their half now.
 

Sime_11

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Storm outs for Round 10 game compared to Prelim last year:

Pap, R.Smith, Fox, Finucane, Hynes, Kamikamika

you could add Welch to that list but he was gone 10 mins in the game, similar to the Cheese. Coates is a good in for Melbourne

We're reigning prems, so we are the hunted and should be expected to win the game - Storm had a howler at times during that game, but they are very dangerous.

should also mention that Storm haven't had a tight game for numerous weeks now, pretty sure that was a similar before the Prelim.

We should be winning this - it's in our favour, we lost to Parra so we should be very eager to make amends.

No excuses this week
 

Iamback

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Defence is down all across the competition. Season 2022 is producing an extra 4 points per game compared to similar time last year. Likely a result of the tweak to the 6-again rule, teams are getting out of their own end and into attacking position easier.

This shows plenty of teams improving their defence


Even the dogs have improved by 75 points from then to now.

We are 2nd to Parra in terms of possession. So we are still keeping the ball general
 

WestyLife

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This shows plenty of teams improving their defence


Even the dogs have improved by 75 points from then to now.

We are 2nd to Parra in terms of possession. So we are still keeping the ball general

They've also improved their roster and were atrocious last year. Almost an "only way is up" scenario for the dogs.
 

BxTom

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We can end this argument by saying I am right and you are all wrong
Now back to the game .Interesting stat Melbourne have won 14 of the last 15 minus Papenhuyzen.Shows how interchangeable there side is.still think we will win in a close one
I agree with MM, we don't pay him a pack of smokes and two pies a week for nothing you know!
 

snickers007

Juniors
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This shows plenty of teams improving their defence


I had my maths wrong. Actually less points being scored this year.

For us in particular, I still think it's a combination of the 6 again change, our roster changes, and probably some premiership fatigue. In addition the competition is a lot closer than last year, with more competitive teams, and better rosters.
 

Iamback

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I had my maths wrong. Actually less points being scored this year.

For us in particular, I still think it's a combination of the 6 again change, our roster changes, and probably some premiership fatigue. In addition the competition is a lot closer than last year, with more competitive teams, and better rosters.

Probably all of the above. I haven't seen the ruthless side come out this year. Could just be a bit of going through the motions. I was just shocked to see Cleary for example so far down on tackle %.

Most categories we are where we should be. Most run metres. Most kick return metres. Up there in possession. So generally we are going pretty well just down in a few areas that said it is a long season and maybe this stops the fatigue factors when teams try to go back to back
 

Pomoz

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I don't even think it is a sport in general thing.

Some of the stuff my tradie mates or truckie mates have done or seen from work mates are very similar to the dumb stuff footballers do.

Thankfully the vast majority are good humans
A group of men in their late teens early twenties, an over-supply of testosterone, in prime physical condition, plenty of money, a sprinkling of celebrity, what could possibly go wrong?

I can tell you that in my seven years in the British Airborne forces we only had two of those ingredients, testosterone and prime physical condition and we had every misdemeanour the NRL players have reportedly done covered and then some. All except the filming sex malarkey, mobile phones didn't exist in the early 80's. I actually shudder to think what we would have been like if we added celebrity and money to the mix.

NRL players really are no worse than most groups of young men, we just get to hear about it because it sells newspapers.
 

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