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Round 15 Vs Broncos

giboz71

giboz71

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We are woefully short of edge players.

Tariq, Ford and Fui all out. 4 middles on the bench was strange but you won’t see that bench again when we’re all on deck.

Ford will likely come straight in for Korbin who got hurt again. And Fui comes in for Ellis the week after.

Not sure when Tariq is back, but am ok with Host.
 
Dragon David

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Paper thin defence for easy tries to Staggs and Dearden. No discipline. Clune needs to sharpen up. Use of bench poor. Really nothing to get excited about. Heart attack material the Dragons.
 
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The Friz

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SBD82 said:
f**king hell. Enjoy the win and dissect it tomorrow. We have had so little joy for so long I have no shame in celebrating a victory against the Broncos.

Sure there’s work to do. But if you can’t enjoy a win what’s the point. There will always be improvements to make. But there’s a time and a place.
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Walpole said:
Oh f**k off.
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As much sting in that as the Dragons defence.
 
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The Friz

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Brutalitops said:
You can always spot the fans who think sports are as simple as a ladder position.

You have to view each match in a bubble. This was NOT an acceptable performance long term of course. But matches are not simply a ladder position vs another ladder position, not only that, a result is not judged simply on a winning margin.

In context, the win was much more impressive than "just beating 15th". That was pretty easily the best Broncos performance of the new competition, and they are not playing like 15th place.

Allow the team to restructure following a coaching departure, allow them to slowly develop a new style of play, and commend them to not folding away. There were countless moments tonight we could have gone into our shell and we didn't.

And even more, we had TWO tries disallowed where we could feel hard done by. Could have very easily been a 16 point victory if not for those bunker blunders.

Just relax. We have had problems winning close matches for a long time. Tonight we didn't.

Improvement there for all to see
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I’ll continue to call it as I see it. Enjoy your evening.
 
Old Timer

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My take always
  1. Refreshingly honest and completely comprehensible presser.
  2. Attack looked much better albeit clunky and not sustained long enough but good potential on show.
  3. Defence is a mess and needs lots of attention.
  4. As much as the defence was bad the wingers were better and didn’t run up and in. Incorrect marking up and wrong counting from around the ruck created the issue as it meant wingers were marking centres.
  5. Aitken passed when he shouldn’t and failed to pass when he should and misread the attack in the Staggs try.
  6. Lawrie is struggling defensively in the middle if he has any great involvement in tacking the ball up especially in consecutive sets.
  7. Broncs weren’t great do we have to be guarded in our assessment.
  8. Lomax competes unbelievably and think god he goes as he covers for others who don’t.
  9. Bench usage was strange but means coach had faith so some good and some bad in that.
  10. Enough to suggest no changes but also enough to show some changes would not necessarily be bad next Tuesday will be interesting.
 
muzby

muzby

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Old Timer said:
My take always
  1. Refreshingly honest and completely comprehensible presser.
  2. Attack looked much better albeit clunky and not sustained long enough but good potential on show.
  3. Defence is a mess and needs lots of attention.
  4. As much as the defence was bad the wingers were better and didn’t run up and in. Incorrect marking up and wrong counting from around the ruck created the issue as it meant wingers were marking centres.
  5. Aitken passed when he shouldn’t and failed to pass when he should and misread the attack in the Staggs try.
  6. Lawrie is struggling defensively in the middle if he has any great involvement in tacking the ball up especially in consecutive sets.
  7. Broncs weren’t great do we have to be guarded in our assessment.
  8. Lomax competes unbelievably and think god he goes as he covers for others who don’t.
  9. Bench usage was strange but means coach had faith so some good and some bad in that.
  10. Enough to suggest no changes but also enough to show some changes would not necessarily be bad next Tuesday will be interesting.
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11. We won. f**k yeah!
 
Old Timer

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muzby said:
We won.

You can whinge & complain & find fault with as much as you like, but that won’t change a thing.

We won.

Enjoy it.
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Who said I didn’t enjoy it I merely offered some thoughts on the game.

You would rather critique other people’s posts rather than critique the team or the result which in itself is curious.

Obviously you should just start a ‘f**k we won thread” limit it to one word “yeah” and spend all your time in that thread and don’t bother with trying to talk footy because you have little to nothing to offer.
 
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getsmarty

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Dragons grind out Broncos win
Author
Joel Gould NRL.com reporter
Timestamp
Fri 21 Aug 2020, 10:11 PM
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The Dragons have given Dean Young the perfect start to his six-week tenure as head coach with a 28-24 win over a gallant Brisbane side at Suncorp Stadium on Friday night.

Former Broncos Corey Norman and Ben Hunt both had massive games with the boot and in general play for the Dragons with a 70-metre Norman kick at the death getting the visitors a vital repeat set to close the game out.

The Dragons kept their slim finals hopes alive with the win to go to 12 competition points.

The St George Illawarra right side was on fire with Zac Lomax and Mikaele Ravalawa causing plenty of headaches. The flying Fijian took his tally to 12 tries for the season with another rampaging double.

The Broncos showed plenty of steel to fight their way back into the game after a dire start with half Tom Dearden, centre Kotoni Staggs and captain Patrick Carrigan all superb.


Match: Broncos v Dragons

Round 15 - Friday 21st August

Full Time

Home Team

Broncos

Scored 24 points

Away Team

Dragons

Scored 28 points
Venue: Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane

Dragons prop Josh Kerr tore through threadbare goal line defence to open the scoring with Brisbane front-rowers Joe Ofahengaue and Rhys Kennedy caught on their heels.

Norman sliced through feeble attempts at tackle by Ofahengaue and Ben Te’o and the visitors led 12-0 after five minutes.

Another embarrassing night loomed for the Broncos but they steadied after the early onslaught and it was no surprise that Darius Boyd was the provider for a Richie Kennar try with a cut-out pass after providing the extra man.

Ill-discipline cost the Dragons and Brisbane made them pay with Cory Paix showing great strength near the line to burrow over and level the scores after 25 minutes.


St George Illawarra went ahead courtesy of a Lomax penalty before Matt Dufty threw a searing left to right pass to cut-out three Broncos and hit a flying Ravalawa, with the Fijian trampling Boyd to score wide out to give his side an 18-12 lead at the break.

Staggs then put in his nomination for try of the year with a stunning 60-metre effort which left Euan Aitken, Adam Clune and Dufty left in his wake.

Dufty was soon involved in a kick and chase where Carrigan impeded his ability to follow through and Lomax landed the penalty to give the Dragons a 20-18 lead.

Milford left the field with a hamstring strain and Paix went into the halves to partner Dearden.

Clune put in a pearler of a kick to get the Dragons a repeat set and Lomax showcased all his immense skill as a centre to hold the ball up and with silky hands put Ravalawa over for his second. Lomax landed the sideline conversion to make it 26-18.

Dearden took the initiative with Milford off the field and swivelled on the last play near the tryline to score and cut the margin to just two points.

The Broncos showed plenty if resilience at the back end of the game, which had previously been their Achilles heal, but were unable to apply the knockout blow.

The Dragons prevailed on the back of superb kicking by Clune, Hunt and Norman were able to get the field position they needed when it counted.


https://www.dragons.com.au/news/2020/08/21/dragons-grind-out-broncos-win/
 
muzby

muzby

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Old Timer said:
Who said I didn’t enjoy it I merely offered some thoughts on the game.

You would rather critique other people’s posts rather than critique the team or the result which in itself is curious.

Obviously you should just start a ‘f**k we won thread” limit it to one word “yeah” and spend all your time in that thread and don’t bother with trying to talk footy because you have little to nothing to offer.
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We won.

Enjoy it.
 
Crush

Crush

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Old Timer said:
My take always
  1. Refreshingly honest and completely comprehensible presser.
  2. Attack looked much better albeit clunky and not sustained long enough but good potential on show.
  3. Defence is a mess and needs lots of attention.
  4. As much as the defence was bad the wingers were better and didn’t run up and in. Incorrect marking up and wrong counting from around the ruck created the issue as it meant wingers were marking centres.
  5. Aitken passed when he shouldn’t and failed to pass when he should and misread the attack in the Staggs try.
  6. Lawrie is struggling defensively in the middle if he has any great involvement in tacking the ball up especially in consecutive sets.
  7. Broncs weren’t great do we have to be guarded in our assessment.
  8. Lomax competes unbelievably and think god he goes as he covers for others who don’t.
  9. Bench usage was strange but means coach had faith so some good and some bad in that.
  10. Enough to suggest no changes but also enough to show some changes would not necessarily be bad next Tuesday will be interesting.
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Corey Norman was good.
That last play kick from the 30 was a cracker.
 
SaintPauli

SaintPauli

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qld redvee said:
Saint Pauli,
If the board hold true to the criteria of new coach being from a successful external system rules dean out and hornby ( who is in 1st year out from mary ) I think we need to seriously look at fitzgibbon who has so much defensive success behind him also .. young working beside fitzgibbon for a period would hopefully give dean the work experience to take over the reins down the track
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Yes I can see that working. Only issue is, will Fitzy come over next year. He is the highest paid assistant coach in the game and has 2 years left. Big call from Fitzy. Also Flanno has experience and deserves a shot though cant start until 2022. Interesting to see what the board choose as they said they want to appoint a coach prior new pre season.
 
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