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Round 22 Vs Dragons

betcats

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Lol I don’t even know which you could possibly try to argue. You’ve got a ridiculous wrap on Crichton with that he’s better than Manu bullshit so that one? But I’ve literally tracked and posted the 2 on 1s Critta has f**ked up until origin so how could you argue that? And he f**ked another last week.

Eh, in the end it’s a waste of time because none of you actually want to learn.


All your post can be summed up “momo is the best critta and Staines are shit” you are a broken record.

Critta has more like break and try assits than any of our outside backs. Also I’ve said numerous times manu is better, you just invent shit.
 

Girds89

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Lol I don’t even know which you could possibly try to argue. You’ve got a ridiculous wrap on Crichton with that he’s better than Manu bullshit so that one? But I’ve literally tracked and posted the 2 on 1s Critta has f**ked up until origin so how could you argue that? And he f**ked another last week.

Eh, in the end it’s a waste of time because none of you actually want to learn.
One thing critta is poor at is just crashing onto the ball at speed.

Stop the crabbing and jinking and weaving. Just hit up on to the ball at pace.

Burtons brilliant at it.

Momos try tonight was a great example. Sure it was against a retreating defence but he just hit on to the ball at top pace and the defence couldnt make up for it. Was a real nice run.

It that was critta he jinks and weaves. He might have still scored who knows. But he certsinly doesnt have that in his game yet.

Until he does he not close to manu who is the whole package. He can kick pass, brilliant step hit holes like burton.

Not trying to put critta down. Hes defence has been brilliant this year but his attack is the same as last year. No real development in thst regard
 

murraymob

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I hope I am right when I think Cleary is just trying a few combinations you never know a injury here a suspension there.we always had the dragons under controll.All up given we have a lot of talent to come back in we are not looking so bad
 

Fangs

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I think Staines was dropped as every time he got the ball, he passed it to Edwards to take all the hitups.

And who knows maybe that was the plan. What I do know is that Staines' hitups out of the redzone are pretty bad. He gets dragged back nearly every time.
 

Smug Panther

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I hope I am right when I think Cleary is just trying a few combinations you never know a injury here a suspension there.we always had the dragons under controll.All up given we have a lot of talent to come back in we are not looking so bad
The side hasn't played together in months. You don't f**k around now
 

Girds89

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I think cleary gets a week for the clear cut shoulder charge. Not a bad thing given the buns this week who will be out to belt him
 

betcats

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Villi
Yeo
Marto
Can all play 80

Sorensen can plsy backrow. Hopgood can play lock and backrow. Lindsay smith has played a lot of lock in cup. We will sign another 2nd rower..

Hes not going to get any taller. Only 184cm which is quite short for a forward. Below avg height of avg nrl player. Is 94kg. Might put on 5 or so kgs but than will just be an average nrl centre size. Try put 10 or so kgs on him amd hell lose his speed and elusiveness.

Our backrow looks better than our centre options of

Momo
Critta
May at a pinch or turuva at a huge pinch.

mate he’s going to get heavier than he is that is undeniable and he is already handling the back row at nrl pretty well.

Edit:He had more metres and post contact metres than kikau and Martin tonight
 

Girds89

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And who knows maybe that was the plan. What I do know is that Staines' hitups out of the redzone are pretty bad. He gets dragged back nearly every time.
Thats the issue.

Almost all his runs result in a complete momentum killer.

Any ascendency we gain from to'o or edwards runs gets killedbif he takes a run.

And in the finals everyone needs to have a dig. Cant just have one bloke on the wing catching a cold while edwards too fish make 225m each and are out on their feet
 

Smug Panther

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Thats the issue.

Almost all his runs result in a complete momentum killer.

Any ascendency we gain from to'o or edwards runs gets killedbif he takes a run.

And in the finals everyone needs to have a dig. Cant just have one bloke on the wing catching a cold while edwards too fish make 225m each and are out on their feet
Of course you can. Those meters plus our gun pack sure as f**k allow for a fast finisher on the wing
 

Girds89

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mate he’s going to get heavier than he is that is undeniable and he is already handling the back row at nrl pretty well.
No doubt but hes not going to get to 105kgs.

Playing him in the backrow just takes away from his strengths. He might be 'handling' it. Thats how he looked playing there in cup too. Did well and was solid. Every time he played centre he was best on ground for them.

He will get limited mins at 2nd row given yeo martin and kiks can play 80. At centre hed be on the field for 80mins. Thats what we need
 

betcats

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No doubt but hes not going to get to 105kgs.

Playing him in the backrow just takes away from his strengths. He might be 'handling' it. Thats how he looked playing there in cup too. Did well and was solid. Every time he played centre he was best on ground for them.

He will get limited mins at 2nd row given yeo martin and kiks can play 80. At centre hed be on the field for 80mins. Thats what we need

Just edited the other post, he had more metres and post contact metres than kikau or Martin tonight, defensively better numbers than kiks. 19 tackles 1 missed. He’s going to the backrow it’s pretty clear that’s where they see him.
 

Girds89

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Just edited the other post, he had more metres and post contact metres than kikau or Martin tonight, defensively better numbers than kiks. 19 tackles 1 missed. He’s going to the backrow it’s pretty clear that’s where they see him.
I couldnt care less about the stats. If youve watched any nsw cup earlier this year youd have seen where his best position is atm. He literally was a unstoppable there.

He came on after 30mins when all kiks and marto did was defend set after set after set. Than we literally had all the possesion whilst he was on. He was good sure. Very impressed. But playing him wider can really utilize his strengths amd means hed get 80mins.

Not sure why youd only want him on the park 30/40 or so mins filling in for kiks or marto
 

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