Round 3 vs Sharks

[dannyt]

Quote, there’s got to be an investigation.
Someone needs to be held accountable.

Toovs, you annoying little legend!

 

[KogarahWarrior]

To be fair Tooves was 100% right in his blowup. It was a finals game too from memory. I think the NRL is absolutely stupid for fining coaches for giving honest criticism on refs -- it's not like Bozo saying he wants to run over Harrigan with a cement truck

 

[SBD82]

Smart move you guys playing this game in the Gong. After the last couple of games at Jubilee it worries me playing you there.

I figure half your team will get pissed at the Harp on the way to the game, and the other half will be mugged by meth heads ib McCabe park.

 

[dannyt]

To be fair Tooves was 100% right in his blowup. It was a finals game too from memory. I think the NRL is absolutely stupid for fining coaches for giving honest criticism on refs -- it's not like Bozo saying he wants to run over Harrigan with a cement truck

I disagree in allowing coaches the ability to give honest criticism. Sure, in a perfect world, coaches would only tell the truth, irrespective of the effect on their own team. In reality, coaches would simply use the forum to blame the refs and make statements beneficial to their club. See how Cleary only today said he thought three St George players should've been sin-binned, meaning Burgess. Can you imagine if he was given free reign to give his "honest opinion"?

A coach's "honest opinion" is an oxymoron in the truest sense of the word.

 

[thebigredv]

It's such a shame the coaches are held to ransom for a comment. I'd prefer hear some honesty and place bias in the cold light of day.

With all the money, technology, experts and training in the world thrown at the game it's a disgrace the referees and their boss plus the fraudsters of the MRC can't get it right and allow the fans and players a fair contest.

It's even more criminal that we still watch it.

 

[dannyt]

It's such a shame the coaches are held to ransom for a comment. I'd prefer hear some honesty and place bias in the cold light of day.

With all the money, technology, experts and training in the world thrown at the game it's a disgrace the referees and their boss plus the fraudsters of the MRC can't get it right and allow the fans and players a fair contest.

It's even more criminal that we still watch it.

You make some valid points, but unfortunately, coaches will always exploit rules such as giving an "honest opinion".

I remember the "head bin" was a new rule introduced in the 80s. A player could go to the head bin and be replaced, then come back on with no interchange. I think this was still the time that once you replaced a player, they couldn't come back on at all, but don't quote me on that. The Manly coach, Bobby Fulton, used the head bin to replace Ron "Rambo" Gibbs on at least three occasions, and I don't think he had a head knock for any of them.

The point is coaches will always exploit a rule. Bellamy is a classic example, as is Robinson and Bennett. Some say the better coaches are more adept at exploiting the rules, or at least, thinking of ways to exploit rules before any one else. So the NRL is forever trying to amend rules to minimise exploitation-grappler tackle, chicken wing, wrestle ("thank you", Bellamy) etc. The last thing they would do is amend a rule that is ripe for exploitation, such as giving coaches the rite to voice an "honest opinion". Do you know how to tell when a coach is lying to the media? There at least two ways-he's talking or breathing.

 

[KogarahWarrior]

I disagree in allowing coaches the ability to give honest criticism. Sure, in a perfect world, coaches would only tell the truth, irrespective of the effect on their own team. In reality, coaches would simply use the forum to blame the refs and make statements beneficial to their club. See how Cleary only today said he thought three St George players should've been sin-binned, meaning Burgess. Can you imagine if he was given free reign to give his "honest opinion"?

A coach's "honest opinion" is an oxymoron in the truest sense of the word.

I'll eat my words -- I didn't look at it that way. 100%, especially after a loss, coaches would probably not be very prudent or objective with how they speak, especially about officials

 

[BLM01]

How does Sua get marched for 10 yesterday and then Wilton from Sharks just now gets Moses late and legs whilst kicking but stays on the field. Unbelievable.

Exactly. Please explain the difference why not.
Sharks keep 13 on field and win a game in the dying minutes.
We play with 12 for 20 mins and cant win the game in the dying minutes.

 

[Adolf_Spritzer]

Exactly. Please explain the difference why not.
Sharks keep 13 on field and win a game in the dying minutes.
We play with 12 for 20 mins and cant win the game in the dying minutes.

Because O'Sullivan stayed down like the cat he is.. I thought they were rubbing out the milking of penalties?

 

[Eatons Hill Dragon]

I really hope behind the scenes the Club is after clarity and answers from the NRL.
Seems the past few years especially we are made examples of.
Even the changes to judiciary loading comes after two of our forwards are missing big amounts of games for accidents.
Premiers only points on Friday come from a charge down and when we are down to 12.
It’s a vital two points we are missing and to the point of the sharks they stay 13 players for entire game and get the 2 points.
Maybe I’m just one eyed but it’s shit.

 

[Illusion]

I figure half your team will get pissed at the Harp on the way to the game, and the other half will be mugged by meth heads ib McCabe park.

The old Harp Hotel , Friday nights as young blokes and I mean young blokes ranging from 14 to 16 , use to sit out the back and drink Pints (a couple and we were done) then order Pizzas and meet some young ladies at Banks street onto the beach ..... Ah the memories and the good old days of not a worry in the world .....

 

[Dragon David]

Exactly. Please explain the difference why not.
Sharks keep 13 on field and win a game in the dying minutes.
We play with 12 for 20 mins and cant win the game in the dying minutes.

Penrith are the yardstick for success, we are the yardstick for failure. All it takes is for any one of our players to do the slightest thing wrong and we cop it harshly. Penalties were only warranted in my opinion however it seems that whatever wrong we do it is taken to another level of penalty.

I'm sure that if we had not lost the combined 20 valuable minutes of those two players and we had all 13 on the field for the 80 minutes, we would have won.

The more we get canned harsher than others, the less likely we can attract better players to the club - other players also know we are hard done by I'm sure. Our officials need to speak up about it. There are so many examples over the years of the imbalance of sentences imposed on our players. Every new rule that has been brought in we have been sitting ducks for copping it first so to speak (Frizell's little accidental touch of the ref, passing the ball into a defending player not able to clear the ruck, playing the ball incorrectly) - the list goes on.

The Sharks will be hard to beat not only on the scoreboard but by the nit picking treatment of the ref and bunker even though the game is a home one for us.

Sorry for the rant guys.

 

[dannyt]

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Because O'Sullivan stayed down like the cat he is.. I thought they were rubbing out the milking of penalties?

He was never meant to come back on, based on the new rules where players who are "obviously" knocked out cannot come back on.

 

[Dragon David]

The old Harp Hotel , Friday nights as young blokes and I mean young blokes ranging from 14 to 16 , use to sit out the back and drink Pints (a couple and we were done) then order Pizzas and meet some young ladies at Banks street onto the beach ..... Ah the memories and the good old days of not a worry in the world .....

Nice to have had the time of not a worry in the world, that is for sure Illusion.

 

[Dragon David]

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He was never meant to come back on, based on the new rules where players who are "obviously" knocked out cannot come back on.

Would Penrith be in any trouble for this? Like, rules are rules and if you don't comply, you should be penalised by losing a couple of points or for that matter, the points scored after O'Sullivan came back on if any?

In golf you are penalised strokes for landing in water and other infringements etc. why not in league?

 

[baggygreen man]

We just have it over the Sharks by a nose in games won in the local derby since '98. Figured it was fairly close as these are always well contested affairs. Always had a soft spot for the Sharkies as several former Dragons played for them and some of our greats resided in the shire.. Reg Gasnier for one.

 

[baggygreen man]

Don’t believe the media garbage about we let him go he told the club he won’t be staying.

The club pussy footed over tabling McInness a formal extension offer, that is the reason he walked. What else was he to do as he probably figured from that the club no longer wanted him. I'm surmising because Griffin wanted his Qld buddy McCulloch instead. What a faux pas that has been. In terms of productivity and value to our club I rate McInness double over McCulloch.

 

[dannyt]

Would Penrith be in any trouble for this? Like, rules are rules and if you don't comply, you should be penalised by losing a couple of points or for that matter, the points scored after O'Sullivan came back on if any?

In golf you are penalised strokes for landing in water and other infringements etc. why not in league?

I suppose it depends on who's at fault, or whether fault is found. Knowing the NRL, the latter will be found.

 

[dannyt]

The club pussy footed over tabling McInness a formal extension offer, that is the reason he walked. What else was he to do as he probably figured from that the club no longer wanted him. I'm surmising because QLD United wanted McCulloch instead. What a faux pas that has been.

Telling the board/management of his specific thoughts on McGregor's sacking, combined with an admission of differences of opinion with the new coach, probably didn't help his cause. Sounds more like he didn't want to stay.

 

[baggygreen man]

We will see what a mistake it was to let McInness go when he hurts us next week. If he does I hope those who made him walk choke on their Weet Bix.