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Round 5 vs Bulldogs

SLRBRONCOS

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Must be a hell of a list. NRL only or more cross-code action?
I have a separate list for yawnion players. I must not mention them here.

Top 5:
1. Harry Grant
2. Jai Arrow
3. Euan Aitken. I mean.. Those thighs. Crush my head with them Euan.
4. Jack De Belin. Prison honey.
5. Ryan Matterson. I will ROOT the Jesus out of him.
 

Abacus

Juniors
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2,128
I have a separate list for yawnion players. I must not mention them here.

Top 5:
1. Harry Grant
2. Jai Arrow
3. Euan Aitken. I mean.. Those thighs. Crush my head with them Euan.
4. Jack De Belin. Prison honey.
5. Ryan Matterson. I will ROOT the Jesus out of him.
No love for the feathered locks of Reece Walsh?
 

Iamback

Referee
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20,297
I have heard numerous players and Ivan himself say that Gus didn't interfere with training and I believe them. I also believe that when a coach is struggling, Gus steps into help them. Hook and now Trent Barrett were clearly struggling at times and they need help.

It is quite fanciful to speculate that Gus wants to take over coaching. Do we really think that if he wanted to coach he would be unable to get a job? That he gets in by a back door method by becoming a general manager and taking control? It makes no sense whatsoever. There are so many teams who would give Gus an opportunity to coach, there would be a queue stretching around the block.

If he was a micromanaging control freak, it's a small world in league and everybody would know and nobody would agree to work with him. He has managed to remain employed for 40 years in administration and coaching. 40 years. Maybe he actually tries to help teams and that's why he keeps getting offers.

Barrett is probably grateful for the input, but Hook didn't want to be helped and as a leader, that is a major problem. Nobody, including Gus, who hired a completely inappropriate CEO in a frankly amateurish process, knows everything. You have to ask for help. Great leaders know when to let others take over and add value to the team. They know what they are good at and what they aren't. Ivan always credits Ciraldo for their impressive defence and that sounds about right. Cameron has obviously developed a pretty good formula for coaching defence.

Hook was the opposite. Ciraldo wanted to leave because he wasn't allowed to be involved fully. Hook didn't like Gus getting involved and really, more fool him. Gus has more experience and a better understanding of league than Hook will ever have. He should have embraced his input, learned everything he could and rode his coat tails to the grand final. Instead it ended in tears.

It's just my opinion, but I think he is trying to help Flanagan and Barrett and the media speculating about the poor treatment of Flanagan and implying Gould's doing the coaching are way off the mark. That Flanagan has struggled to cope with the mental side of the NRL, partly due to the burden of being Flanagan's son, is well documented. He gets in his own way. I think that is why Gus is trying to help him by letting to play without pressure in NSW Cup. Gus has shown great leadership in stepping forward and taking all the heat on the Flanagan situation and making the whole discussion (exhibit 1, this forum) about him. Barrett and Flanagan owe him a few beers.

Others involved have said he was. Take Luke Phillips tweet the other day

I think Gus wants to coach. He can't have the power he wants as coach.

Head coaches should be left to run their own program. They are the ones who get shafted when it all goes bad

The GM of football should ensure they have everything they need and want.

Bad words are being said about Trent and Flanagan what does it matter?
 

Kilkenny

Coach
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Others involved have said he was. Take Luke Phillips tweet the other day

I think Gus wants to coach. He can't have the power he wants as coach.

Head coaches should be left to run their own program. They are the ones who get shafted when it all goes bad

The GM of football should ensure they have everything they need and want.

Bad words are being said about Trent and Flanagan what does it matter?
You believe what you want to believe, whatever suits your own personal position or viewpoints.

Who knows, Luke Phillips May have an axe to grind, personal professional bias against Gould so you can’t take his tweet as gospel truth.

Trents having a tough time right now, I hope he comes out the other end OK, one way or the other.

Ive never understood the hate for the guy, I just don’t get it.
 

Iamback

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You believe what you want to believe, whatever suits your own personal position or viewpoints.

Who knows, Luke Phillips May have an axe to grind, personal professional bias against Gould so you can’t take his tweet as gospel truth.

Trents having a tough time right now, I hope he comes out the other end OK, one way or the other.

Ive never understood the hate for the guy, I just don’t get it.

That could well be the case but people who were involved. Are speaking from more knowledge of the situation then us. Whether you believe those is up to your personal view.

I can't speak for others but I don't hate him. I just think he is a very ordinary coach
 

Aliceinwonderland

First Grade
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You believe what you want to believe, whatever suits your own personal position or viewpoints.

Who knows, Luke Phillips May have an axe to grind, personal professional bias against Gould so you can’t take his tweet as gospel truth.

Trents having a tough time right now, I hope he comes out the other end OK, one way or the other.

Ive never understood the hate for the guy, I just don’t get it.

'Hate' is an emotive word.

Folks (I believe) are expressing an opinion about Barrett as a coach. Whether he's good at his job.

As far as I can see the jury is very much out about whether Barrett is a quality coach. So far it appears his coaching ability in the top grade is limited.

I haven't seen anything written about 'hating' the bloke.
 

Kilkenny

Coach
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13,864
'Hate' is an emotive word.

Folks (I believe) are expressing an opinion about Barrett as a coach. Whether he's good at his job.

As far as I can see the jury is very much out about whether Barrett is a quality coach. So far it appears his coaching ability in the top grade is limited.

I haven't seen anything written about 'hating' the bloke.
There are some on salivating awaiting his demise.
 

soc123_au

Moderator
Staff member
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'Hate' is an emotive word.

Folks (I believe) are expressing an opinion about Barrett as a coach. Whether he's good at his job.

As far as I can see the jury is very much out about whether Barrett is a quality coach. So far it appears his coaching ability in the top grade is limited.

I haven't seen anything written about 'hating' the bloke.
I think the jury is very much in. He is a terrible coach.
 

Aliceinwonderland

First Grade
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There are some on salivating awaiting his demise.

I really don't think most folks (me included) are emotionally invested in the subject of Barrett's coaching career.

They (like me) are just giving their opinion about his coaching career (and coaching ability) within the NRL.
 

Girds89

Bench
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I think itll be a tough game..

Dogs will be up for it.

Game plan i think comes down to 3 main areas-

Id kick to naden every single time. Not because hes weak under the high ball, but because hes the strongest returner of the ball for them in their back 5.

If we can turn him around all arvo and force him to do hard yards it will negate him taking good strong carries on tackles 2 and 3. Means ado carr and dufty and burns will have to do the tough carries and they are all easier to handle than nado.

Secondly we have to hammer burto all day..especially on tackle 5. Cant be letting him get those towering bombs away all day without plemty of pressure..

Lastly.. have to stop pangais offloads. Hes been fantastic so far to start the year for them. Hes 2nd phase play he creates is enourmous. Melbs are typically a great team at shutting down 2nd phase play as they have a huge pack and guys like NAS can handle TPJ.

Im not expecting our pack to be able to contain his offloads. I just want the team to be aware and have a floater in defence who isnt actually tackling him but is there waiting for the rogue offload.

Overall i think if we can shut down burtos kicks and pangais offloads itll go a long way to getting the job done.

Kicking to nado and keeping them pinned down their end will help hugely too.

Not overly concerned with how we perform..

2nd game back for nath. I just want to get the two points and do it without any injuires..

Hoping to see staines continue his epic form and tiping may and tago will cross for a few tries between them again.
 

WestyLife

First Grade
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7,391
I think itll be a tough game..

Dogs will be up for it.

Game plan i think comes down to 3 main areas-

Id kick to naden every single time. Not because hes weak under the high ball, but because hes the strongest returner of the ball for them in their back 5.

If we can turn him around all arvo and force him to do hard yards it will negate him taking good strong carries on tackles 2 and 3. Means ado carr and dufty and burns will have to do the tough carries and they are all easier to handle than nado.

Secondly we have to hammer burto all day..especially on tackle 5. Cant be letting him get those towering bombs away all day without plemty of pressure..

Lastly.. have to stop pangais offloads. Hes been fantastic so far to start the year for them. Hes 2nd phase play he creates is enourmous. Melbs are typically a great team at shutting down 2nd phase play as they have a huge pack and guys like NAS can handle TPJ.

Im not expecting our pack to be able to contain his offloads. I just want the team to be aware and have a floater in defence who isnt actually tackling him but is there waiting for the rogue offload.

Overall i think if we can shut down burtos kicks and pangais offloads itll go a long way to getting the job done.

Kicking to nado and keeping them pinned down their end will help hugely too.

Not overly concerned with how we perform..

2nd game back for nath. I just want to get the two points and do it without any injuires..

Hoping to see staines continue his epic form and tiping may and tago will cross for a few tries between them again.

I wouldn't be worried about TPJ offloading. Most of the time it's to a player in a bad position and the team doesn't take advantage.
 

Smug Panther

First Grade
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7,004
Well it looks like the bench is going to be as listed. If we get an injury in the forwards it could get interesting. Real poor team selection
 

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