Round 5 vs Bulldogs

[The_Frog]

Having the 6 again in your own half is ridiculously one sided in favour of the defence.

Oh dear can't have that.

 

[BossleyPanther]

Gus playing mind games again, "Kikau wanted out of Penrith" so he signed him. Nonsense I say.

 

[TheEroticGamer]

We are the premiers they will lift.

They lifted for Melbourne mate

 

[Blues Riff]

We should just give Kikau the week off.

 

[WestyLife]

Oh dear can't have that.

Well no you can't. It rewards the team who breaks the rules in that situation which is wrong.

 

[WestyLife]

Gus playing mind games again, "Kikau wanted out of Penrith" so he signed him. Nonsense I say.

What nonsense.

 

[The_Frog]

Well no you can't. It rewards the team who breaks the rules in that situation which is wrong.

This is what Annesley was on about yesterday. Also the dragging of players over the sideline. Apparently the penalty for dragging Latrine out was 100% correct and the Roosters should have been pinged for dragging the Cows player 12 metres into the ingoal. Consistency is the key. There's also a problem with players not hearing the call.

 

[mxlegend99]

Gus playing mind games again, "Kikau wanted out of Penrith" so he signed him. Nonsense I say.

What player wouldn't want out of a premiership winning squad to join the worst team in the comp?

 

[Hooked]

Gus playing mind games again, "Kikau wanted out of Penrith" so he signed him. Nonsense I say.

Gould would make a good politician. Full of BS and knows how to divert attention elsewhere when the heat is on.

 

[WestyLife]

This is what Annesley was on about yesterday. Also the dragging of players over the sideline. Apparently the penalty for dragging Latrine out was 100% correct and the Roosters should have been pinged for dragging the Cows player 12 metres into the ingoal. Consistency is the key. There's also a problem with players not hearing the call.

That penalty was crap. You should be able to keep pushing if you have momentum and the players legs don't leave the ground or arm carrying the ball doesn't touch the ground.

 

[John Hamblin]

The time has come for Leniu to START regurlarly. He needs more game time to show his full potentia l. He appeared gassed after about 12 minutes last week and surely it would be a huge benefit to the team if he could be a starter

 

[The yak]

Kikau left for the money. And must have been a bucketload to go to that rabble.

 

[mxlegend99]

This is what Annesley was on about yesterday. Also the dragging of players over the sideline. Apparently the penalty for dragging Latrine out was 100% correct and the Roosters should have been pinged for dragging the Cows player 12 metres into the ingoal. Consistency is the key. There's also a problem with players not hearing the call.

The penalty was correct because held was called. The held call however was wrong and should never have been called.

The referee was wrong first and we clearly just didnt hear him or have reason to think we would be penalised. But he did call held so he had to penalise us.

 

[The yak]

Is Trent tired yet?

 

[The_Frog]

The penalty was correct because held was called. The held call however was wrong and should never have been called.

The referee was wrong first and we clearly just didnt hear him or have reason to think we would be penalised. But he did call held so he had to penalise us.

Annesley showed the rule on this. The referee must call held where a player's progress has been stopped and he cannot offload the ball. This rule hasn't been enforced up until now so its in effect a rule change on the fly. Progress meaning where the player wants to go not where the defence wants to take him.

The Mitchell penalty completely changed the run of the game, and there should have been some warning of this new interpretation.

 

[betcats]

Annesley said cook should’ve been sin binned for the deliberate holding down penalty in the second half when they held on just so the challenge the call of no knock on by Penrith just before that, he also said the challenge shouldn’t have been allowed as it was a non call, you can challenge a knock on call as there is a stoppage but not a non call, giving away a penalty like south’s did to force a stoppage will now just be a sin binning like it was for the broncos. You’d think between the on field ref and the bunker they could’ve got this right in our game.

I think the point Franklin is making regarding the six agains is that in the knights game each team gave away 7 penalties but neither team got a six again. So both teams were offside or held on to long inside the opposition 40 a number of times but once they were defending outside that 40 both teams were never offside or holding down to long? That doesn’t make sense, definitely poor officiating.

 

[Iamback]

Kikau left for the money. And must have been a bucketload to go to that rabble.

We offered $700k. So yep would be on heaps

 

[Iamback]

Annesley said cook should’ve been sin binned for the deliberate holding down penalty in the second half when they held on just so the challenge the call of no knock on by Penrith just before that, he also said the challenge shouldn’t have been allowed as it was a non call, you can challenge a knock on call as there is a stoppage but not a non call, giving away a penalty like south’s did to force a stoppage will now just be a sin binning like it was for the broncos. You’d think between the on field ref and the bunker they could’ve got this right in our game.

I think the point Franklin is making regarding the six agains is that in the knights game each team gave away 7 penalties but neither team got a six again. So both teams were offside or held on to long inside the opposition 40 a number of times but once they were defending outside that 40 both teams were never offside or holding down to long? That doesn’t make sense, definitely poor officiating.

I thought at the time you can't go back and challenge after the play had gone. Was a rubbish call glad it has been called out.

1000%. There is no way neither team was on side every play or didn't hold down. RL is at its best when it flows if a blowout is the result than so be it.

You should get rewarded for winning the ruck

 

[Old and Disgruntled]

I thought at the time you can't go back and challenge after the play had gone. Was a rubbish call glad it has been called out.

1000%. There is no way neither team was on side every play or didn't hold down. RL is at its best when it flows if a blowout is the result than so be it.

You should get rewarded for winning the ruck

My understanding of the rule is that the challenge had to be within 10 seconds of the call/stoppage. That bit of play went on for about a minute. Get rid of the Capt/Challenge please.

 

[snickers007]

Annesley said cook should’ve been sin binned for the deliberate holding down penalty in the second half when they held on just so the challenge the call of no knock on by Penrith just before that, he also said the challenge shouldn’t have been allowed as it was a non call, you can challenge a knock on call as there is a stoppage but not a non call, giving away a penalty like south’s did to force a stoppage will now just be a sin binning like it was for the broncos. You’d think between the on field ref and the bunker they could’ve got this right in our game.

This kind of tactic has been a long time coming unfortunately. And it all started because a Bunker ref went rogue, and started reviewing the entire play leading up to the challenge, rather than just the single decision being challenged. Once that became normalised, it was only a matter of time before teams starting forcing the issue.

And it really shits me as a former referee, because they have very clear guidelines in which they are allowed to utilise the Captains Challenge or Bunker in general. And they consistently breach it. I'm not sure whether it is the heat of the moment getting to them, or that they just don't understand when/where they can use it? Regardless, the ref in the Bunker should be in their ear after every decision to ensure they know "yes this decision can be challenged" / "no this decision can't be challenged". So when the player comes at them to question it, they can shut it down instantly without needing to think about it.

As for sin-binning Cook for deliberately holding down - that's a slippery slope - especially, because the video concluded that Penrith did knock on. Can you imagine the outrage - ref calls "play on, no knock on". Souths appeal on the run, and then give away a penalty to stop the game. Cook gets sin-binned. Now Channel 9/Fox have 30 seconds to review the footage, and see that Souths were right! So the Bunnies are down to 12 players, because the ref doubled-down on his mistake. Lol. Would only ever happen once, because the impacted club (especially a big club like the Roosters, Rabbits, Broncos) and the media would complain so much.

The correct move is just to penalise, and deny the Challenge.