Round 5 vs Raiders

[Panther_Daz]

Offer Mansour a 3 year deal worth about 275k per season. If he wants to chase big $$$'s elsewhere let him go. Should not be getting into bidding wars for wingers and props.

 

[MrAnonymous]

This is why we need to keep Mansour:



http://m.smh.com.au/rugby-league/le...rime-candidate-for-origin-20140407-zqru1.html

still not good enough for us though.

 

[betcats]

Mansour certainly isnt a must keep player imo.

He is in good form and deserves his spot in our side but I would not want our club to pay overs for him at all, we have to many talented outside backs. Also as a NSW fan i would be worried if he was picked for Origin, it would be like Merrit again I fear.

 

[mxlegend99]

Merrit is a lazy merkin relying on his pace and the work of others to score tries through opportunity rather then skill. Mansour works hard, is agressive and half his tries come from brute strength in busting tackles and carrying players. Probablyideal for NSW as there's not very man gaps created for our backs in Origin.

 

[betcats]

Im talking defensively, they would give him a bath with his tendency to run in, anyway thats just how I see it. And you are being harsh on Merrit, he has sucked since Origin yes but he has had periods of better form then Mansour currently over the last few years. He relies on pace the same way Josh relies on his strength, both are a bit one dimensional.

 

[franklin2323]

Offer Mansour a 3 year deal worth about 275k per season. If he wants to chase big $$$'s elsewhere let him go. Should not be getting into bidding wars for wingers and props.

That's the way I see it. We offer him a deal he takes it or he doesn't. There will always be someone to fill the void. 90% of the backs in NYC you could develop to a handy winger.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Mansour certainly isnt a must keep player imo.

He is in good form and deserves his spot in our side but I would not want our club to pay overs for him at all, we have to many talented outside backs. Also as a NSW fan i would be worried if he was picked for Origin, it would be like Merrit again I fear.

I don't think we'll be paying overs for anyone with Gould in charge.


But mansour is certainly worth a decent offer.

 

[herbert henry1908]

That's the way I see it. We offer him a deal he takes it or he doesn't. There will always be someone to fill the void. 90% of the backs in NYC you could develop to a handy winger.

There's very few backs that have Mansours ability to make meters & break tackles.



I dont want to get into a massive bidding war either but let's not kid ourselves, his abilities are rare.


Which is why he'll likely get a decent offer from someone.





He's worthy of at least one counter offer ( if there's room)


A take it or leave it offer would be be ridiculous for someone with his talent.

 

[betcats]

I don't think we'll be paying overs for anyone with Gould in charge.


But mansour is certainly worth a decent offer.

Of course he is worth an offer, I'd like to keep him. I agree that Gould won't pay overs for him, but another club might in which case I hope we just let him go, like Daz said, not worth a bidding war.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Of course he is worth an offer, I'd like to keep him. I agree that Gould won't pay overs for him, but another club might in which case I hope we just let him go, like Daz said, not worth a bidding war.

Its not worth a bidding war but never underestimate the power of incumbency.


If we got close to another offer it could be enough.



Let's say we offered 275k



Another club offers 325k



A counter of 300-310k could get it done. We may not need to offer more or match it.





A take it or leave it offer would be a slap in the face for someone who puts in as much effort as he does.( and gets results)

 

[franklin2323]

There's very few backs that have Mansours ability to make meters & break tackles.



I dont want to get into a massive bidding war either but let's not kid ourselves, his abilities are rare.


Which is why he'll likely get a decent offer from someone.





He's worthy of at least one counter offer ( if there's room)


A take it or leave it offer would be be ridiculous for someone with his talent.

Gus was in charge when Gordon left. We made several offers we got to $300k and so nope sorry too big. Similar here I am fine with making silly bids when you can get by with cheaper. No thanks

 

[franklin2323]

Im talking defensively, they would give him a bath with his tendency to run in, anyway thats just how I see it. And you are being harsh on Merrit, he has sucked since Origin yes but he has had periods of better form then Mansour currently over the last few years. He relies on pace the same way Josh relies on his strength, both are a bit one dimensional.

Spot on. It was my point earlier in this thread. The best of the best we are talking any weakness they will target as there's not many out there

 

[herbert henry1908]

Gus was in charge when Gordon left. We made several offers we got to $300k and so nope sorry too big. Similar here I am fine with making silly bids when you can get by with cheaper. No thanks

And that made perfect sense & would again.


Anyway its very rare for a best deal to be put on the table first up in negotiations.



Its very likely there will be one or two counters.

 

[abpanther]

The Gordon example is an interesting one as I remember MX also being very upset that we didn't pay more to keep Gordon

That decision seems to have been justified

 

[franklin2323]

The Gordon example is an interesting one as I remember MX also being very upset that we didn't pay more to keep Gordon

That decision seems to have been justified

Strange we were going to regret that decision yet found Mansour in his place. No team has ever not won the comp because of letting a winger go

 

[betcats]

It will be interesting to how the retention will be handled the next 12-18 months, definitely feels like one of those good problems.

 

[Pomoz]

Strange we were going to regret that decision yet found Mansour in his place. No team has ever not won the comp because of letting a winger go

When Penrith won its first comp, it had two very average wingers in Mackay and Smith. They scored plenty because they had the most visionary halfback playing the game at the time, Greg Alexander. Some will disagree and say Mackay was really good, he did play for NSW 4 times and Australia once, but I think he was helped by being in such a good team. Anyway, i agree. Wingers are very rarely the key element in winning a premiership.

 

[abpanther]

Funny becuase I do remember us having a very good pair of wingers the last time we won a comp

But I agree with the general premise

 

[franklin2323]

Funny becuase I do remember us having a very good pair of wingers the last time we won a comp

But I agree with the general premise

Yeah but would another player on the end of that backline been just as good? I say yes.

 

[franklin2323]

When Penrith won its first comp, it had two very average wingers in Mackay and Smith. They scored plenty because they had the most visionary halfback playing the game at the time, Greg Alexander. Some will disagree and say Mackay was really good, he did play for NSW 4 times and Australia once, but I think he was helped by being in such a good team. Anyway, i agree. Wingers are very rarely the key element in winning a premiership.

Yep. Brandy would said you run here etc. Brandy would of been good enough to change his game to suit the winger.