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Round 9 vs Warriors

sa1nt5

Juniors
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Why should I have to go somewhere else just because I have an differing view?

Are your beliefs about why we are losing so rigid that someone else's opinions feel like a threat to you?

What's with your dictator vibe?

Mate, I agree with you...so take a deep breath and maybe get off your little illusion of being some kind of forum hero.

Having Aitkin on the bench is a waste. He shouldn't be there. Whether that's because he is more of a mate than a coach with the players is just a opinion, not a fact though.

I've NEVER said Mary's coaching strategies are always right.

But people are putting 100% or nearabouts of the responsibility of our losses to him.

What about when we win? Who does the responsibility for those go to? ...especially when similar tactics are used?

The players have a lot to answer for. They are showing up a lot in the first half this year.

They look mentally weak in the second half. Especially last and this week.

They mentally lossed that game tonight. At 18-12 I could see they were playing not to lose the game. Our offloads dried up and all that.

It was like watching the Titanic capsize
It is like watching the titanic sink but I think the consensus is that we keep giving the captain a new 2 year licence to sink the ship every year and we are the Dragons not the Titan(ic)s success is in our blood we eat Premierships and shit Trophies
 

SET2JT

Juniors
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You cant be for real surely?
We have been blown away the last 2 second halves of games.
We were belted into submission and rolled over both times.
There is nothing positive other than we are already blowing blue smoke this season.
Parra were blown away tonight. We are not at that stage at least.
 

sa1nt5

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We’ve got to stop carrying a centre on the bench and then not using the 3 forwards we have, one of which has to be the slowest human being I have ever seen. It is absolutely deadset unbelievable. It beggars belief. I just cannot believe this coach. There’s nothing more I can say about it, it’s so fundamentally f**king dumb that I’m lost for words.

Ahhh, that’s a bit better, thanks for letting me vent.
Repost just so I can give it another thumbs up :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:and one for. Mary :point_right::door::exclamation:
 

Dragonsdiehard

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Damn, it makes me angry to see us capitulate like that...AGAIN! I had to turn it off in the end.
I don't pretend to know much about this but shouldn't your bench players make an impact?
I liked Leilua's effort today but detected no impact from Latimore at all. In fact, almost the opposite.
I thought Host underperformed a little too compared to other weeks but he's generally good. I think Lawrie is holding his own and enough's already been said about Lomax for Aitken.

I want to think these last two games were lost due to squad depth or in our case, lack thereof and I put this down to our roster of unavailable regular, proven first graders. JDB, K Sims, Widdop, now Norman.
We were clearly fatigued on ANZAC day and today was basically a replay of the Parra game where intensity suffers when we go to inerchange.
There also seemed to be a problem with defensive strategy today but defense is built on attitude. I see plenty of huge individual efforts in defence but I'm not seeing it across the park.Lafai was very quiet today.

Can someone tell me what roles Ben Hornby and Dean Young play? As members of the 2010 side, they should know exactly the kind of mindset it takes to build a premiership winning defense. For several seasons leading up to and including 2010, we had a champion team - not a team of champions - that was founded on rock-solid defence.
 

Saint_JimmyG

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The first one was more to do with hunt.
The second was definitely Ravs fault.
Rav doesn't panic as much when it was Lomax beside him but as soon as he has Atkins next to him he Panics

I cannot agree.

With Ravalawa, it always looks as though Saints are one short and that’s due to his proclivity of drifting in.

MacDonald used to do the same thing.
 

blacksafake

First Grade
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The selection & use of the bench continues to defy logic. When an injection of skill, X factor or enthusiasm is needed we turn to Latimore, A f**king centre of all things etc.
The introduction of Naughton? to dummy half by Kearney was a major contributing factor for them tonight. He destroyed our tiring retreating defence which was brought about by L plates ridiculous use in the first half.
 

getsmarty

Immortal
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You cant be for real surely?
We have been blown away the last 2 second halves of games.
We were belted into submission and rolled over both times.
There is nothing positive other than we are already blowing blue smoke this season.

3 if you also count the souths game...
 

getsmarty

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Dragons lament conceding 46 second-half points in two weeks
Author
Dan Walsh NRL.com Reporter
Timestamp
Sat 11 May 2019, 09:02 PM
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The sight of his Dragons players "looking at each other to do the job" is a harrowingly familiar one for Paul McGregor as St George Illawarra coughed up 46 second half points in consecutive fade-outs.

The Dragons slumped to their third loss on the trot after leading the Warriors 18-6 at Suncorp Stadium, their Magic Round venture north of the border ending in a disappearing act after the break.

The Warriors' 20 straight points after half-time follows on Parramatta's 32-18 come-from-behind win over McGregor's side a week earlier.

The loss leaves the Dragons sitting in 10th place, with the body language of players after conceding late points over the past fortnight of particular concern for McGregor.

"In the second half we stopped working in defence," he said after the 26-18 loss.

"We didn't stay connected when the ball went away from us, all the things we did well in the first 40 minutes we didn't continue to do.

"…We lost a bit of belief and started looking at each other to do the job instead of getting the job done as individual themselves.

"It [blowing two first-half leads] is concerning. You need to be a consistent side for 80 minutes in this competition."


With Corey Norman (fractured cheekbone) out for at least another two weeks, Gareth Widdop (shoulder) sidelined long term and Jack de Belin suspended under the NRL's no fault stand down policy, the Dragons are missing serious experience when being mowed down by opposition sides.

St George Illawarra can expect to be without Ben Hunt, Paul Vaughan, Tyson Frizell and Tariq Sims when the Origin period rolls around in a month's time as well, hastening McGregor's search for answers to their worrying second-half fade-outs.

"We showed last week how dominant we were for 40 and tonight how dominant we were," McGregor said.

"But it's not good enough. You have to be clear on what it takes to get the job done.

"At the moment we have a few people – players and us as coaches – we have to look at it as to why it's happening and address it, quickly."

Hunt had a horror finish to an otherwise strong performance, his knock-on of a 69th-minute dropout leading to the Warriors try that put them ahead for the first time in the match.

McGregor didn't dance around the impact of the mistake, reminiscent of Hunt's spilled kick-off in Brisbane's 2015 grand final loss to the Cowboys.

"The score was 18-all, 12 minutes to go, we had an attacking set on their line," McGregor said.

"It was a pretty important catch. Obviously [Hunt] holds on to things.

"He cares a lot."

https://www.dragons.com.au/news/201...conceding-46-second-half-points-in-two-weeks/
 

Frank Facer

First Grade
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When Mary replaced Lomax with Aitken, with about 27 minutes remaining. I said "MCGREGOR IS A F*CKWIT".

Mary never replaced Aitken mid game with Lomax or anyone else. It has got me wondering if Mary received a tap on the shoulder from someone high up at our club, who told him to give Lomax a run? Maybe Mary still thinks Aitken is better than Lomax? lol

Mary continues to select Latimore on the bench????
 

nontime111

Juniors
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When Mary replaced Lomax with Aitken, with about 27 minutes remaining. I said "MCGREGOR IS A F*CKWIT".

Mary never replaced Aitken mid game with Lomax or anyone else. It has got me wondering if Mary received a tap on the shoulder from someone high up at our club, who told him to give Lomax a run? Maybe Mary still thinks Aitken is better than Lomax? lol

Mary continues to select Latimore on the bench????
Lomax made a few errors but as soon as he left the field it all dropped off, Aitcant comes on and makes a few mistakes looking woeful, at least when Lomax is around theres a feeling something COULD happen!

as for Latimore, please! enough...get Timms on there FFS hes 4 times the prop Latts wouldnt even make woy woy reserves rubbish bench Mcidiot, Good coaches know how to WIN a game by keeping the momentum and energy up, hence his crap bench use always losing us games, yes and BAD coaches KNOW HOW TO LOSE
 

nontime111

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Latimore is a useless waste of space...nothing, no mungrel a total surrenderer in attack and in defence a turnstyle where teams each week now run little fast fellas at him and holes are open , If Timms or Kerr were there theyd bu Up to impress not just get their pay each week to plod...

as for the positives FIELD!! LOMAX!!
 

ozbuck

Juniors
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464
But you don't worry about Mary.

Right.

XXX

Nup, you just made that story up in your head.

When did I say I dont worry about Mary? Please find that quote.

I worry about selections like Aitkin on the bench, and having Latimore there.

I also worry about not seeing our players who should be dictating the speed, direction, and feel of the game not making their mark.

I worry about the flabby emotional muscles this playing group has when other teams score against us, especially when we are in the lead. They start tensing up and stop playing the free flowing football that gave us the lead in the first place. This is MENTAL, not a physical problem.

The Rabbitohs against the Warriors a few weeks back, when the game was on the line their playmaker and game-dictator STOOD UP and GUIDED the team to the win. Last night that was not to be seen.

For example, we needed a swing in momentum in that second half. There were opportunities for something like a 40/20 that could have been exploited. They weren't. In our tenseness we stopped the creative offloads and became predictable and boring. Mental tightening does that.
 

ozbuck

Juniors
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we are the Dragons not the Titan(ic)s success is in our blood we eat Premierships and shit Trophies

1979.... next one 2010...not one seen since.

2 premierships in 40 years is not eating premierships and shitting trophies mate. That's a 5% success rate. Sounds like your perception is skewed a little
 

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