Rugby Australia to target top NRL talent

[The Penguin #6.]

To be fair they also beat the Springboks. But in general the northern hemisphere has caught up to to us now, France, Ireland, England and Wales can foot it with the SH teams and beat them regularly.

From what I`ve read it has a lot more to do with the type of union they are playing in the northern hemisphere these days, stultifying territorial forward based game plans. Any team that dares to play what might be deemed (relatively speaking of course) an open ball-in-hand attacking type game will be punished. Bad luck Kiwi`s and poor old running rugby Oz.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

From what I`ve read it has a lot more to do with the type of union they are playing in the northern hemisphere these days, stultifying territorial forward based game plans. Any team that dares to play what might be deemed (relatively speaking of course) an open ball-in-hand attacking type game will be punished. Bad luck Kiwi`s and poor old running rugby Oz.

Other that the French they’ve largely always played that way in the NH though. The England side that won the RWC in 2003 sure did, their outside backs barely touched the ball.

 

[t-ba]

The ARU and John O'Neill misread the malaise surrounding the Super League war as some kind of permanent divorce from League and their strategies surrounding growing the game have pretty much set it up for failure.

I'm not even sure that they could follow the South African model of having squads stacked with overseas players. South African Union players aren't moving abroad for the fun and adventure of a few years overseas. They're bloody economic migrants. By way of a non-sport example, my cousins from Port Elizabeth aren't working as Agricultural Technicians in North Dakota because they want to see the world. It's because they can make way more there! The money's just so much better in Europe. Why uproot your whole life for a decade on the other side of the world when you can just play league at home for similar cash?

They're in a dark place. And as a league fan and a plastic Saffer it's truly glorious.

 

[Wb1234]

The ARU and John O'Neill misread the malaise surrounding the Super League war as some kind of permanent divorce from League and their strategies surrounding growing the game have pretty much set it up for failure.

I'm not even sure that they could follow the South African model of having squads stacked with overseas players. South African Union players aren't moving abroad for the fun and adventure of a few years overseas. They're bloody economic migrants. The money's just so much better in Europe. Why uproot your whole life for a decade on the other side of the world when you can just play league at home for similar cash?

They're in a dark place. And as a league fan and a plastic Saffer it's truly glorious.

Disagree

super rugby was a huge success with 3 Aussie teams and the South Africans in it and I think four kiwi teams

if they had stuck with that the sport would’ve been fine

kicking out South Africa killed the comp

 

[t-ba]

Disagree

super rugby east a huge success until with 3 Aussie teams and the South Africans in it and I think four kiwi teams

if they had stuck with that the sport would’ve been fine

kicking out South Africa killed the comp

South Africa only left during Covid. They last played in the abandoned 2020 season.

It was f**ked long before that.

 

[Wb1234]

South Africa only left during Covid.

It was f**ked long before that.

Five Aussie teams

go back and look at average crowds when they had 3 Aussie teams

and sa were booted out cause they wanted a trans Tasman conp

well here we are

 

[CAS]

Does this mean they are coming home early without seeing the world? jeez, i caught the last 5 minutes and listening to the British commentary seemed to think its because they have too much 'code competition' back home. Yeah right, well they are losing that battle alright, every Aussie fan in the crowd looked like they had come right out of central casting for Posh boys school. They need more Rugby league attacking coaches to get over all the Rugby league defensive coaches imo, wash, rinse and repeat. How's it all going Hamish?

 

[t-ba]

Five Aussie teams

go back and look at average crowds when they had 3 Aussie teams

and sa were booted out cause they wanted a trans Tasman conp

well here we are

Mate, you said this

kicking out South Africa killed the comp

It was already dead by then.

As for the rest, three teams was never gonna be enough. The Force weren't a bad addition but needed way more time for bedding. And kore robust pathways and junior developmentbefore moving on to a fifth team.

 

[taste2taste]

Does this mean they are coming home early without seeing the world? jeez, i caught the last 5 minutes and listening to the British commentary seemed to think its because they have too much 'code competition' back home. Yeah right, well they are losing that battle alright, every Aussie fan in the crowd looked like they had come right out of central casting for Posh boys school. They need more Rugby league attacking coaches to get over all the Rugby league defensive coaches imo, wash, rinse and repeat. How's it all going Hamish?

221 posts in 19 years ? And I thought I was a slow poster

Yes, the Wallabies fans in the crowd were the perfect cliche of a rugby fan, 55 to 65yrs old, white, and wearing a Rolex...or Tag if you want to go low key.

There would be alot of wives in Mosman and Rose Bay getting up to mischief while thier hubbies have scooted over to France to watch the rugby

 

[Wb1234]

Mate, you said this


It was already dead by then.

As for the rest, three teams was never gonna be enough. The Force weren't a bad addition but needed way more time for bedding. And kore robust pathways and junior developmentbefore moving on to a fifth team.

Waratahs crowds 25 to 30k
Reds same
Brumbies 15 to 20k

Aussie teams regularly won the comp

force average under 5k
Now

 

[t-ba]

Waratahs crowds 25 to 30k
Reds same
Brumbies 15 to 20k

Aussie teams regularly won the comp

force average under 5k
Now

What were those averages in 2019, when South Africa was in the comp for a full season for the last time?

I ain't arguing about the size of crowds when there were three sides dude.

 

[Wb1234]

What were those averages in 2019, when South Africa was in the comp?

I ain't arguing about the size of crowds when there were three sides dude.

I’ve literally said overexpansion was also a cause

and kicking out sa was wrong also because the standard now is awful. Nz get no decent games

rugby union was very successful for a long time

 

[t-ba]

I’ve literally said overexpansion was also a cause

and kicking out sa was wrong also because the standard now is awful. Nz get no decent games

rugby union was very successful for a long time

Mate, you said this

kicking out South Africa killed the comp

So, what was it like in 2019?

 

[Wb1234]

Mate, you said this



So, what was it like in 2019?

2019 was after they over expanded

not rocket science

 

[JamesRustle]

Joining Australian rugby is a bit like taking a job as a typewriter salesman.

I'd buy a typewriter from a door-to-door salesperson for novelty value. Rugba... get the f**k off my porch merkin or I'll rip those elbow patches off your jacket and staple them to your eyes.

 

[t-ba]

2019 was after they over expanded

not rocket science

So the comp was already dead by then right?

So...this claim was not correct then?

kicking out South Africa killed the comp

Glad we are on the same page then brother?

 

[Wb1234]

So the comp was already dead by then right?

So...this claim was not correct then?



Glad we are on the same page then brother?

No it wasn’t already dead

thanks for the semantics lmao

let’s ignore how sucessrful super rugby was for a long time

 

[Wb1234]

Mate, you said this



So, what was it like in 2019?

Crowds: An actual national rugby crisis that demands attention – The Roar

www.theroar.com.au

super rugby crowds in 2019

the reds and Waratahs would kill for those crowds now lmao

 

[taste2taste]

Mate, you said this



So, what was it like in 2019?

It's easier to find a needle in a hay stack than find a super rugby crowd figure.

Crowds, unless they are over 6k, are listed as TBA. It's been that way for a while.

 

[Brutus]

So many people write 'loosing' when they are trying to spell losing.

Why.