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Rumoured and Confirmed signings - Part 4

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Jane Murray

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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...n/news-story/0d2e8dab3c88a49c3fd407680f4a53bf

NRL contract news: Penrith forced to shell out big bucks to keep star centre Stephen Crichton
Penrith will have to stump up serious money to keep star centre Stephen Crichton, who has been compared to Israel Folau at the same age.

Dean Ritchie
December 10, 2020 - 5:20PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

The management of Panthers and NSW star Stephen Crichton has lodged an official counter offer with Penrith – and the club will need to stump up serious money to keep him.

Crichton, 19, and Penrith officials are refusing to divulge the contract value but recruitment managers at rival NRL clubs have valued him at $750,000 a season.

His three-year contract extension would then be worth a cool $2.25m.

It is expected Crichton’s value would increase over each year of the deal, which would run through 2022, 2023 and 2024. It’s now up to Penrith to find the money.

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Stephen Crichton was a star performer for the Panthers in 2020. Picture: Cameron Spencer/Getty Images
The Daily Telegraph revealed in late July that Crichton was poised to accept a three-year deal worth $500,000 a season.

Since then Crichton has developed into a true star after inspiring Penrith’s charge into the NRL grand final and then being named in an extended NSW State of Origin squad.

His price tag has jumped around $250,000-a-year over the past four months since the original offer was tabled.

One Sydney-based recruitment manager claimed Crichton “was every bit as good as Israel Folau at the same age – maybe even more athletic”.

It had been speculated that Canterbury and Sydney Roosters were keen on Crichton but neither club has yet to open formal discussions.

Crichton has strong preference to stay at Penrith provided his financial requirements are met.

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Stephen Crichton is on the radar of several clubs but his preference is to stay at Penrith. Picture: Matt King/Getty Images
He has come through the club’s junior pathways system with multiple players who are now teammates in the Panthers’ NRL side.

Penrith are aware they will need to shell out some serious coin to retain the rising star.

The Panthers — with a high-profile roster — are shifting around their tight salary cap to ensure Crichton is a long-term Panther.

Rival clubs would pounce with vigour should Penrith show any sign they are struggling to find the necessary cash.

The Daily Telegraph reached out to Crichton’s manager, Sam Ayoub who, despite being reluctant to comment publicly during complex negotiations, did say: “Stephen is a wonderful kid. Since State of Origin, we have had time to sit down and catch up with him and his family.

“We intend to catch up with them again in the not-too-distant future. We have to be conscious of ensuring we do the right thing by him and his family.

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Stephen Crichton is still under contract at Penrith for 2021. Picture: Brett Costello
“He is genuinely a very humble, quiet kid. He goes out playing basketball and enjoys that just as much as his rugby league. He is an athletic kid, he just leaves being outdoors.”

Crichton is still under contract for 2021, albeit a modest deal. It was signed when he was a kid coming through the system with enormous promise. Penrith may elect to top-up Crichton’s contract for next season if there is still some space to move in their salary cap.

While aware of his contract value, friends say Crichton isn’t driven by money. When his next three-year deal expires, Crichton will only be 23.

Crichton’s contract delay can be partially attributed to his decision to switch management team – from Mark Stewart to Ayoub — at the end of October.

Earlier this year, Panthers legend and club deputy chairman Greg Alexander described Crichton as an “exceptional and unique talent”.

And Immortal, Andrew Johns, who also previously spoke of Crichton, said: “What an athlete this young man is — a special talent.”
Sam forgot to add himself.
 

Exsilium

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Thanks but no thanks to a 750k+ Centre unless they intend to play fullback and we seem to have eyes on Edward’s and possibly Staines there.

I’m done with the back and forth, send him packing.
 

Whino

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Penrith offer $500k. A rival recruitment manager (probably Dean Ritchie's mate) values him at $750k.
Surely they meet in the middle?
Though I do think the original offer is fair.
I don't like his salary increasing every year.
 

mxlegend99

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Sorry but at $500k he's a risk that might fail. But one worth taking.

$750k though he can f**k off. Centres are not worth that much. The best centres who demand that sort of money tend to be doing it in other positiins.
 

Black Magik

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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...n/news-story/0d2e8dab3c88a49c3fd407680f4a53bf

NRL contract news: Penrith forced to shell out big bucks to keep star centre Stephen Crichton
Penrith will have to stump up serious money to keep star centre Stephen Crichton, who has been compared to Israel Folau at the same age.

Dean Ritchie
December 10, 2020 - 5:20PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

The management of Panthers and NSW star Stephen Crichton has lodged an official counter offer with Penrith – and the club will need to stump up serious money to keep him.

Crichton, 19, and Penrith officials are refusing to divulge the contract value but recruitment managers at rival NRL clubs have valued him at $750,000 a season.

His three-year contract extension would then be worth a cool $2.25m.

It is expected Crichton’s value would increase over each year of the deal, which would run through 2022, 2023 and 2024. It’s now up to Penrith to find the money.

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Stephen Crichton was a star performer for the Panthers in 2020. Picture: Cameron Spencer/Getty Images
The Daily Telegraph revealed in late July that Crichton was poised to accept a three-year deal worth $500,000 a season.

Since then Crichton has developed into a true star after inspiring Penrith’s charge into the NRL grand final and then being named in an extended NSW State of Origin squad.

His price tag has jumped around $250,000-a-year over the past four months since the original offer was tabled.

One Sydney-based recruitment manager claimed Crichton “was every bit as good as Israel Folau at the same age – maybe even more athletic”.

It had been speculated that Canterbury and Sydney Roosters were keen on Crichton but neither club has yet to open formal discussions.

Crichton has strong preference to stay at Penrith provided his financial requirements are met.

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Stephen Crichton is on the radar of several clubs but his preference is to stay at Penrith. Picture: Matt King/Getty Images
He has come through the club’s junior pathways system with multiple players who are now teammates in the Panthers’ NRL side.

Penrith are aware they will need to shell out some serious coin to retain the rising star.

The Panthers — with a high-profile roster — are shifting around their tight salary cap to ensure Crichton is a long-term Panther.

Rival clubs would pounce with vigour should Penrith show any sign they are struggling to find the necessary cash.

The Daily Telegraph reached out to Crichton’s manager, Sam Ayoub who, despite being reluctant to comment publicly during complex negotiations, did say: “Stephen is a wonderful kid. Since State of Origin, we have had time to sit down and catch up with him and his family.

“We intend to catch up with them again in the not-too-distant future. We have to be conscious of ensuring we do the right thing by him and his family.

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Stephen Crichton is still under contract at Penrith for 2021. Picture: Brett Costello
“He is genuinely a very humble, quiet kid. He goes out playing basketball and enjoys that just as much as his rugby league. He is an athletic kid, he just leaves being outdoors.”

Crichton is still under contract for 2021, albeit a modest deal. It was signed when he was a kid coming through the system with enormous promise. Penrith may elect to top-up Crichton’s contract for next season if there is still some space to move in their salary cap.

While aware of his contract value, friends say Crichton isn’t driven by money. When his next three-year deal expires, Crichton will only be 23.

Crichton’s contract delay can be partially attributed to his decision to switch management team – from Mark Stewart to Ayoub — at the end of October.

Earlier this year, Panthers legend and club deputy chairman Greg Alexander described Crichton as an “exceptional and unique talent”.

And Immortal, Andrew Johns, who also previously spoke of Crichton, said: “What an athlete this young man is — a special talent.”
So which players do we lose to keep this 19 year old millionaire?

Do we accept that depth isn’t important and pray he doesn’t get injured?

I don’t like how it’s being played out. Penrith are being held to ransom and that never bodes well.
 

Jane Murray

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So which players do we lose to keep this 19 year old millionaire?

Do we accept that depth isn’t important and pray he doesn’t get injured?

I don’t like how it’s being played out. Penrith are being held to ransom and that never bodes well.
If the media reports are true.
 

Jane Murray

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I could be wrong but I thought it was just the ridiculously heavy back ended deals they were trying to get rid of.
NRL to restrict back-ended deals and consider trade periods
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The NRL will refuse to register back-ended contracts from next year, while player transfer windows to coincide with State of Origin and the end of the season may be introduced by 2020.

NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg declared a ban on heavily back-ended contracts after a meeting of club bosses on Wednesday and also announced that a working party had been established to investigate the feasibility of a trade period for signing players.

Greenberg said clubs were in favour of ending the practice whereby players are paid below market value in the first year of their contracts and then receive an over-inflated amount in later years to manipulate the salary cap.

Canterbury officials have banned the practice after becoming hamstrung in their ability to recruit and retain players due to back-ended deals negotiated by the previous regime, while Manly, Parramatta and Penrith are other clubs to have had salary cap problems blamed on the practice.

Greenberg said the clubs had wanted the NRL to "help us help ourselves".

"In really broad terms what we are not going to allow is a contract to come on the table for $200,000 in the first year and $600,000 in the second year. We are just not going to allow that to happen anymore," Greenberg said.

"Historically we have left the decision up to clubs to manage their salary caps but there is a clear appetite from the clubs for us to put rules in place.

"There is a very small number of examples, albeit problematic ones, where clubs have got into trouble ... and that has hurt so there's a desire for us to get involved and ensure that doesn't happen again."

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NRL to crack down on back-ended contracts


NRL to crack down on back-ended contracts

Greenberg said the NRL salary cap auditor would still register contracts in which a rising star was offered a significant increase in the value of his deal.

"We are not going to stop any player receiving what they are worth on the open market," Greenberg said. "But we have to stop clubs pushing payments to later years to reduce salary cap pressure in the short term.

"Our salary cap keeps the competition close and we want to ensure no club gets into salary cap problems because they have back-ended contracts."

He said there was also support for the introduction of trade periods to restrict when players could move clubs.

Under the NRL's current anti-tampering policy, players can negotiate with rival clubs from November 1 the year before their contract ends.

However, they would be able to move clubs immediately if they signed during a mid-season transfer window, which is likely to coincide with the stand-alone representative weekend.

"I think there is an opportunity mid-year, particularly around State of Origin. We could look at that as a mid-season window as well as an end-of-season trade window," Greenberg said.

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Greenberg open to player trade windows


Greenberg open to player trade windows

The NRL working party will study the transfer windows in other sports, including soccer and AFL, while discussions will need to take place with the Rugby League Players Association before any changes are made.

The RLPA is supportive of the proposal to ban back-ended contracts as players are unfairly targetted for the amount they receive in later seasons, despite having played for below their value at the start of the deal.

Recent examples include Bulldogs forward Greg Eastwood and Robbie Farah at Wests Tigers before leaving the club for South Sydney last year.

However, the RLPA is likely to need more convincing before agreeing to trade windows replacing the current player transfer model.

"Players are always open to considering new initiatives that will help improve the NRL Premiership, which the NRL and clubs are well aware of," RLPA chief executive Ian Prendergast said.

"The RLPA demonstrated this throughout the Collective Bargaining Agreement negotiations last year and even since, where we have agreed to balanced changes around the new NRL contract model.

"While we are open to discussing new concepts, we believe it is important to look at issues such as player movement in totality.

"We currently have one of the most balanced competitions in the world, which has driven huge interest in the NRL Premiership.

"The free labour market is something that past players and the Association have fought hard to establish.

"Together with the salary cap, it has served the game well in terms of providing players with a fundamental right to choose their employer and helping balance talent relatively evenly across the competition.

"Any changes to the player movement system would need to be evidence-based and consider the intended and unintended consequences of how they would work in practice, while ensuring the rights of players, key stakeholders and the competition are protected.

"There are a range of factors that will need to be looked at regarding player movement across the competition, such as improving the stability at clubs around coaching and football staff and ensuring clubs manage their salary caps responsibly.

"We look forward to working through this process with the NRL and clubs on behalf of players."
 

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750k is just a number thrown out by an unarmed recruitment manger critta won’t get that from us. But blade has said quite a while ago now it’s going to cost us more than 500k with this new manager in his ear. I wouldn’t go to ridiculous for Crichton but I do see him as a lot more important than Leniu for us right now.
 

Jane Murray

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750k is just a number thrown out by an unarmed recruitment manger critta won’t get that from us. But blade has said quite a while ago now it’s going to cost us more than 500k with this new manager in his ear. I wouldn’t go to ridiculous for Crichton but I do see him as a lot more important than Leniu for us right now.
Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't Sam Ayoub the manager that clubs are reluctant to deal with?
 

Aliceinwonderland

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I’d probably pay it for critta tbh but you’d have to be looking at him as a fb at some point.





Exactly.

I'm afraid this is his cost. Maybe we get him a little bit cheaper but this is the cost.

If and this is a big if he continues to develop he will become our fullback.

If he is re-signed this will be Edwards last deal with us.

I'll not make a comment about whether he should be bought or not for this price. I'll go with whatever the club decides.

Dear readers this is why Tamou was let walk, also why Mansour got told some home truths.

If the club cab pay say $500 out of club and the player source 200 or so in 3rd party that would be a huge win.
 

Hooked

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750k is just a number thrown out by an unarmed recruitment manger critta won’t get that from us. But blade has said quite a while ago now it’s going to cost us more than 500k with this new manager in his ear. I wouldn’t go to ridiculous for Crichton but I do see him as a lot more important than Leniu for us right now.

I agree he won't get 750k from us. If he does re-sign the
Telegraph will claim $750k.

With Burton gone I actually see Luai a priority re-sign. It is a given he will stay but surely it gets done soon while Crichton drags it out.
 

Aliceinwonderland

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750k is just a number thrown out by an unarmed recruitment manger critta won’t get that from us. But blade has said quite a while ago now it’s going to cost us more than 500k with this new manager in his ear. I wouldn’t go to ridiculous for Crichton but I do see him as a lot more important than Leniu for us right now.





I totally agree.
 
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I wouldn't pay that not even for fullback, isn't Staines going to be nurtured in?

1 Edwards
2. To'o
3 Naden, Someone else
4 Capewell
5 Staines

8 Fisher Harris

10 Leota
11 Martin
12 May
13 Yeo

14 Kikau
15 Tetevano
16 Matty E
17 Kenny

Still a strong side without Crichton
 
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