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Rumoured and Confirmed signings - Part 4

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herbert henry1908

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murraymob said:
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Blade has already said they would not be paying 750k so 800 is not going to happen.No problems get him in the office 1week to sign if no sign see you later move on the next lot of important players
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The time it’s taking is really ridiculous. As you say, when you have tunnel vision for a player, it’s risks you losing others.
 
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The trouble is, I don’t think he’s worth more than 500-550k right now, but by the end of next season, I reckon he could easily be a 750-800 player.
So what do we do? It’s a lot of cap space.

Hopefully we are trying to wrap him up for three more years at 650 maybe 700. I believe that would be smart.

If someone wants to pay 750-800, I say let him go and make a big play for Staggs.
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The deal covers 2022-2024. So need to guess his worth then
 
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franklin2323 said:
Sharks and Dogs. I don't think we were ever in the hunt
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So you’re saying Blade was wrong?

An extra 100k early on may have got him over the line, and if it didn’t we’d be no worse than we are now. The point I’m making is I’d have rathered kept Burton for an extra 100k than be dragged through this process by Crichtons management. At the very worst we’d be in the exact same position.
 
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Internal issues?

Link was no Good when I saw it.

Ok Got it
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It’s hard to comprehend that the Panthers, who are shaping as 2021 premiership favourites, would have issues. However, this column has heard O’Neill referred to as “Uncle Dave” because the players think he is trying to mimic the game’s most revered chairman, the Roosters’ Nick Politis.

The Roosters boss has a rare bond with his players and even those who leave the club rarely have a bad word to say about him.

O’Neill is a Panthers fan and sponsor who has risen through the ranks. It seems he wants to be seen as a Politis-type figure.

It has emerged that at the captain’s run on the day before the grand final, O’Neill went out of his way to deliver a speech to the players. It was heartfelt, but the players thought it was odd.

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“It made us cringe,” one player said. “It was all this gladiatorial stuff about who we are representing. We know all of that. We know we play for the Penrith community and we are proud of that and don’t need reminding. We saw him walking up to us and were wondering what is going on here. The boys didn’t know what the point of it was.”

Making it worse, the team had already been through two other speeches. It’s worth noting that Politis wouldn’t do that before a grand final. After the loss, O’Neill hugged players – something Politis would also do – but the Panthers players don’t have that rapport with their boss.

O’Neill’s pat on the head for Cleary also grabbed their attention, as did his comments about the exit of Matt Burton. It wasn’t the comments themselves that raised eyebrows – that Penrith should be compensated for bringing through young talents who then move clubs – but that CEO Brian Fletcher had said the same thing a day earlier. It was seen as a grab for the limelight when the club really didn’t need to say any more.

I have heard that prominent solicitor Mark Mulock is seen as a possible Panthers chairman down the track. He is a Penrith man and his family has a rich tradition at the club, with his dad Ron a former Penrith mayor as well as being deputy premier of NSW. Mark is highly regarded by some powerful figures at Penrith.

O’Neill did not respond to requests for comment.
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Burton hadn't left at the time of the Grand Final, so how could he have made comments about it. Remember it was prior to 1 November when Burton could have spoken to the dogs.
 
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So you’re saying Blade was wrong?

An extra 100k early on may have got him over the line, and if it didn’t we’d be no worse than we are now. The point I’m making is I’d have rathered kept Burton for an extra 100k than be dragged through this process by Crichtons management. At the very worst we’d be in the exact same position.
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I am saying both Sharks and Bulldogs offered a halves role. We didn't I doubt he stays with us because of that.

Paying overs for anyone isn't a smart move. Haven't Dogs said they haven't made an offer?
 
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I am saying both Sharks and Bulldogs offered a halves role. We didn't I doubt he stays with us because of that.

Paying overs for anyone isn't a smart move. Haven't Dogs said they haven't made an offer?
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You can doubt all you like, someone with inside info says he was close to staying. An extra 100k might’ve pushed him over the line. I’d rather Burton at 500k than Crichton at 700k.

Remember, the sharks only came to the party late. A quick high offer could’ve neutralised thoughts of leaving.



I’m really concerned at how long this Crichton situation is dragging out, and it’s potential to harm other re-signings or potential recruitment.
 
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Goodness me there are some gross generalisations being made.......Best junior since Freddy ? Cost him millions to stay.

I would have like Burton to stay, but sadly he didn't.

I don't see him being in the halves for longer than a couple of years. I see him as a lock / backrower.

I personally think Lui, Crighton, Cleary even Charlie Staines have the potential to be as good as Burton.
 
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Goodness me there are some gross generalisations being made.......Best junior since Freddy ? Cost him millions to stay.

I would have like Burton to stay, but sadly he didn't.

I don't see him being in the halves for longer than a couple of years. I see him as a lock / backrower.

I personally think Lui, Crighton, Cleary even Charlie Staines have the potential to be as good as Burton.
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The junior part is opinion, the cash is a fact. Halves earn the big bucks
 
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You can doubt all you like, someone with inside info says he was close to staying. An extra 100k might’ve pushed him over the line. I’d rather Burton at 500k than Crichton at 700k.

Remember, the sharks only came to the party late. A quick high offer could’ve neutralised thoughts of leaving.



I’m really concerned at how long this Crichton situation is dragging out, and it’s potential to harm other re-signings or potential recruitment.
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Why pay $500k on a player who has zero interest at centre? He would just end up getting out of his deal when a better offer came

We have more important guys off contract. Guys like Yeo who won't go anywhere. Just need the cap finalised
 
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I 100% back he'll be far better than Luai. As a fan of the sport it's good he left. Would have been totally wasted at centre or backrow
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I’m not sure what you’re basing that on? He’ll end up in the back row, he’s way to big to stay in the halves, he’ll go the same way as Wade Graham, just a bit more skilful.

I think he’s a great footballer, but he doesn’t have the vision of Luai. I also think he’ll struggle at the dogs. I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think he’s made a smart move heading there.
 
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I’m not sure what you’re basing that on? He’ll end up in the back row, he’s way to big to stay in the halves, he’ll go the same way as Wade Graham, just a bit more skilful.

I think he’s a great footballer, but he doesn’t have the vision of Luai. I also think he’ll struggle at the dogs. I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think he’s made a smart move heading there.
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Especially with a relatively inexperienced half.
 
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I’m not sure what you’re basing that on? He’ll end up in the back row, he’s way to big to stay in the halves, he’ll go the same way as Wade Graham, just a bit more skilful.

I think he’s a great footballer, but he doesn’t have the vision of Luai. I also think he’ll struggle at the dogs. I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think he’s made a smart move heading there.
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Leaving was the right thing but choice of club is wrong. Signing players in all the wrong positions
 
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