Rumoured and Confirmed signings - Part 4

[franklin2323]

Top 4 or making the GF is par

I don't think he has it in him but lets see. I would of gone Maguire personally

 

[billypilgrimnz]

I like how you conveniently left out the fact that in 2014 we beat the Minor Premiers to get to the Bulldogs game.

I also conveniently left out every single other game that the coaches mentioned had, so lets not get too sensitive. Remember, we were 3 minutes from losing that as well, but a win is a win, so I didn't want to bring it up.

It's weird - Cleary is so well rated, but his actual record is a bit shit, and his selections can be a bit shit, and his attacking structure is very shit, and we've gone back for a second taste.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I think it is a bad bet.

 

[umina panther]

I don't think he has it in him but lets see. I would of gone Maguire personally

I think I would have too. I'm not for or against Ivan really. We'll just have to see how it goes

 

[franklin2323]

I also conveniently left out every single other game that the coaches mentioned had, so lets not get too sensitive. Remember, we were 3 minutes from losing that as well, but a win is a win, so I didn't want to bring it up.

It's weird - Cleary is so well rated, but his actual record is a bit shit, and his selections can be a bit shit, and his attacking structure is very shit, and we've gone back for a second taste.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I think it is a bad bet.

He got a free reign due to being a nice guy much like Brad Arthur does

 

[franklin2323]

I think I would have too. I'm not for or against Ivan really. We'll just have to see how it goes

If I have a bottom 8 team I want to get better Ivan or Henry are my picks to coach. So he isn't hopeless just struggles when plan A doesn't work. Look at the Tigers this year too if teams played expansive footy they had no idea.

As has been the case the roster alone gets us into the 8. The top coaches find weakness in opposition that haven't been found before. Or bring out new plays for their team Ivan has no record of doing this next step.

I doubt Ivan is coach if Nathan wasn't playing for us

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/fr...natural-fit-for-brisbane-20181025-p50bwd.html



1st paragraph a dead give away about what Broncos did to secure Seibold.

I'd say off hand this has been bubbling s

We don't have Hook and apart from a couple of contracts to get sorted we have retained all our main roster and potential future first graders.

I think its hilarious that 3 months ago Tigers were adamant that Nathan was signing with them and a deal was already done but now that its turned and Ivan is apparently a snake for doing the same thing that they were crowing about with Nathan..

Suck shit...

You have nailed it. My thoughts exactly.

 

[franklin2323]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/fr...natural-fit-for-brisbane-20181025-p50bwd.html



1st paragraph a dead give away about what Broncos did to secure Seibold.

I'd say off hand this has been bubbling s









You have nailed it. My thoughts exactly.

No doubt it has. Compare the way the Broncos handled themselves compared to the way we did...We are so far behind the well run clubs

 

[mxlegend99]

If I have a bottom 8 team I want to get better Ivan or Henry are my picks to coach. So he isn't hopeless just struggles when plan A doesn't work. Look at the Tigers this year too if teams played expansive footy they had no idea.

As has been the case the roster alone gets us into the 8. The top coaches find weakness in opposition that haven't been found before. Or bring out new plays for their team Ivan has no record of doing this next step.

I doubt Ivan is coach if Nathan wasn't playing for us

Look at it this way. How many good players have struggled under Ivan? Pretty much most that have weren't all that good at any point.

Compare that to how many have played at or near their best under him. Spine players especially thrive under him.

He gets the best out of what he has. Which has rarely been all that great. Luke Brooks just took out Dally M halfback of the year ffs.

He's not a great coach. Not sure hes good enough to win a premiership with us.but I ghink there's a chance we can. One that didnt exist under Hook. There were probably better ootions available. But outside of Tim Grant, who do youbthink will be unhappy or decline in form next year?

 

[franklin2323]

Look at it this way. How many good players have struggled under Ivan? Pretty much most that have weren't all that good at any point.

Compare that to how many have played at or near their best under him. Spine players especially thrive under him.

He gets the best out of what he has. Which has rarely been all that great. Luke Brooks just took out Dally M halfback of the year ffs.

He's not a great coach. Not sure hes good enough to win a premiership with us.but I ghink there's a chance we can. One that didnt exist under Hook. There were probably better ootions available. But outside of Tim Grant, who do youbthink will be unhappy or decline in form next year?

How many players have he had that have been yet to peak? He does well with Plodders and has beens guys that can follow a simple game plan

I don't think there is a single person that will say Hook can coach attack.

Yet this year we scored more than the 2011 warriors and our 2014 team did. That is with the lack of game plans and out top spine playing only 200 mins together this year.

 

[PANTHERMIKE]

Sounds like Shaun Johnson is going to market...

Given Ivan's history with him, i wonder if he could be in line for 2020? Jimmy moving on to ESL, replaced by Johnson...

He goes missing, but basically has carried that team for 8 years, i wouldn't say no to him in a team that is not the warriors.....

 

[herbert henry1908]

Look at it this way. How many good players have struggled under Ivan? Pretty much most that have weren't all that good at any point.

Compare that to how many have played at or near their best under him. Spine players especially thrive under him.

He gets the best out of what he has. Which has rarely been all that great. Luke Brooks just took out Dally M halfback of the year ffs.

He's not a great coach. Not sure hes good enough to win a premiership with us.but I ghink there's a chance we can. One that didnt exist under Hook. There were probably better ootions available. But outside of Tim Grant, who do youbthink will be unhappy or decline in form next year?

It’s a lot of effort to go to for someone who isn’t a great coach.

 

[franklin2323]

Sounds like Shaun Johnson is going to market...

Given Ivan's history with him, i wonder if he could be in line for 2020? Jimmy moving on to ESL, replaced by Johnson...

He goes missing, but basically has carried that team for 8 years, i wouldn't say no to him in a team that is not the warriors.....

No reason him or Luai can't be made into a FB. That would solve the going MIA often

 

[franklin2323]

It’s a lot of effort to go to for someone who isn’t a great coach.

for 5 years as well...So dumb

 

[TheEroticGamer]

How many players have he had that have been yet to peak? He does well with Plodders and has beens guys that can follow a simple game plan

I don't think there is a single person that will say Hook can coach attack.

Yet this year we scored more than the 2011 warriors and our 2014 team did. That is with the lack of game plans and out top spine playing only 200 mins together this year.

He really should have done better with Idris and Lewis Brown. The fact that they scored less tries than plodders Blake and Kikau is insane.

 

[franklin2323]

He really should have done better with Idris and Lewis Brown. The fact that they scored less tries than plodders Blake and Kikau is insane.

He played Lewis Brown over Blake

 

[Wookies&Cream]

If I have a bottom 8 team I want to get better Ivan or Henry are my picks to coach. So he isn't hopeless just struggles when plan A doesn't work. Look at the Tigers this year too if teams played expansive footy they had no idea.

As has been the case the roster alone gets us into the 8. The top coaches find weakness in opposition that haven't been found before. Or bring out new plays for their team Ivan has no record of doing this next step.

I doubt Ivan is coach if Nathan wasn't playing for us

They were about the only side that could shut down an expansive Souths when they'd won like 10 in a row.
And on the opposite side of the table, they beat a very structured storm twice. How can you justify what you've said above

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

He played Lewis Brown over Blake

Let's get real here. Where was Blake in his development in 2015 ? I suggest no where near the standard that he is now.

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

They were about the only side that could shut down an expansive Souths when they'd won like 10 in a row.
And on the opposite side of the table, they beat a very structured storm twice. How can you justify what you've said above

With a team basically full of plodders.

 

[mxlegend99]

It’s a lot of effort to go to for someone who isn’t a great coach.

There's only 2 great coaches in the game and one of them wouldnt be any better then Cleary at this point in his career.

Deadset outside of Craig Bellamy and Wayne Bennett. Who could you call great?

for 5 years as well...So dumb

Unless we're thinking beyond his coaching career with us.

If we wanted him to replace Gould in the near future and re-sign Nathan. There's really no better way to have approached it.

 

[Flashstep]

He played Lewis Brown over Blake

He was 19 last time Cleary was here, plus we all know how raw Blake was when he first came into first grade