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Poupou Escobar

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The thing I find funny is that back then virtually every poster seemed to hate Brian smith because we never won comps. He was always texting people and using whiteboards and sabotaging local juniors.

Now those same people seem to think those were the golden years.

It's possible to recognise both the positive and negative in a person.

In my opinion Brian Smith is the most brilliant coach in the history of the game. His teams consistently overachieved, and he consistently developed quality first graders. But the teams always fell at the final hurdle because he refused to sign match winners, or they refused to play for him. He also failed to bring in genuine leaders (often the same personality type as match winners) or when he signed them young he would drive them away as they matured (e.g. Tallis, Lyon).

But none of that detracts from his amazing coaching talent in all other areas.
 

Poupou Escobar

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You were right and they were wrong.

I think so.

1 or 2 people couldn't have played a major part in anything bad happening at our club. Especially not coaches - it isn't their responsibility to teach people how to play footy, it is their responsibility to do some other job.
Ricky Stuart record at the Roosters:

78 wins from 130 matches (60%), 1 minor premiership, 3 grand finals, 1 premiership

Ricky Stuart record at Parramatta:

5 wins from 24 matches (21%), 1 wooden spoon

I think there's a bit more to a team's results than just who is the coach. In fact I think there's a lot more to it. Wayne Bennett said as much in his book.

It's great that you can share these pearls with us, despite having no clue about strategic management in footy, nor any experience in coaching.
Actually I know plenty. I go looking for information and make an effort to be informed. I even read Wayne Bennett's drivel.
 
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oldmancraigy

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I think so.

Ricky Stuart record at the Roosters:

78 wins from 130 matches (60%), 1 minor premiership, 3 grand finals, 1 premiership

Ricky Stuart record at Parramatta:

5 wins from 24 matches (21%), 1 wooden spoon

I think there's a bit more to a team's results than just who is the coach. In fact I think there's a lot more to it. Wayne Bennett said as much in his book.

Actually I know plenty. I go looking for information and make an effort to be informed. I even read Wayne Bennett's drivel.

Chill out Pou! You mustn't have read the whole thing :lol:

Although I'm a bit worried now that you do actually believe half the stuff you post :?
 

TheRam

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It's possible to recognise both the positive and negative in a person.

In my opinion Brian Smith is the most brilliant coach in the history of the game. His teams consistently overachieved, and he consistently developed quality first graders. But the teams always fell at the final hurdle because he refused to sign match winners, or they refused to play for him. He also failed to bring in genuine leaders (often the same personality type as match winners) or when he signed them young he would drive them away as they matured (e.g. Tallis, Lyon).

But none of that detracts from his amazing coaching talent in all other areas.


I agree totally, with these sentiments Pou and that is why he will never really be considered as a great coach.

A great coach is considered great because he can basically do it all. That being, guide and nurture the young and not so motivated/immature/dumb and the self driven/mature/savvy leader types.

As you say, Smith could not do the latter, therefore I call he was a solid coach at best to at times average.
 

Wizard Sleeve

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It's possible to recognise both the positive and negative in a person.

In my opinion Brian Smith is the most brilliant coach in the history of the game. His teams consistently overachieved, and he consistently developed quality first graders. But the teams always fell at the final hurdle because he refused to sign match winners, or they refused to play for him. He also failed to bring in genuine leaders (often the same personality type as match winners) or when he signed them young he would drive them away as they matured (e.g. Tallis, Lyon).

But none of that detracts from his amazing coaching talent in all other areas.



Exactly what he said ^ . Is there a coach other than maybe Bennett who's produced more rep players ?
 

Joshuatheeel

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Brian smith produced two players that went on to captain premiership winning sides , Andrew Ryan and Jamie Lyon
 
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