Rumoured/Confirmed Signings and More Crap XX

[hindy111]

Hoppa and Sandow would be taking a cut too stay and so would lussick if he hangs around.

 

[hindy111]

Out of curiosity we have a ton of players off contract. Really thou how many wont be re-signed? At this stage only two guys i see graduating from under 20's Davis and Aliaoi or are there a few more? And we have only signed Foran so thats 3 spots we need.
Is there any reason why we would not offer guys like Terepo-Uelasai-Morgan a contract?
Id say Champion will be let go along with Kaysa,Kelly-Faraimo.
Wouldnt keeping guys like Terepo and Morgan around if outside our top 25 be handy?

 

[pedge]

I remember that time well. The Canterbury 4 wanted to be together. McCracken held out longest and was paid the most. I heard close to $700k. When the war ended Fitzy was quoted as saying that the best players should have a ceiling of $400k so as to curb the inflation of player payments. We adopted that policy until we pursued Steve Menzies and offered him $500k, yet he still stayed for half the price. Manly were basically broke at the time. Now that's loyaltly.

When the last of the Canterbury 4 left (Dymock in 2000) we bought a shit load of player for 2001. All solid first graders and some up and comers like Brett Hodgson. We all know now what kind of team that was. This is what this current team reminds me of. Hayne has gone yet as a team we have never looked better.

Hats off to Brad Arthur.

Ive been riding this train since the day Hayne left

The Ewing Theory
A theory hashed by ESPN.com writer Bill Simmons and his friend Dave Cirilli. It that explains the reason why teams inexplicably become better after their star player leaves the team for any reason (trade, injury, etc.). Two elements must be present for a situation to be explained by the Ewing Theory: 1) The team has a star player who receives a lot of attention but never wins anything, and 2) The star player leaves the team and everybody writes the team off.
The Knicks lose Patrick Ewing to an injury in a 1999 NBA playoff series with the Indiana Pacers. Everyone writes them off. The Knicks then win three of the next four games and win the series to advance to the NBA finals.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=The+Ewing+Theory

 

[Swiftstylez]

If we can afford him hopoate has more of an upside than anyone listed bar falou, just waiting for it to be unleashed at fullback. Also the eels team was 11 million the highest of the super league. We should stary freeing up some money for valentine holmes, he is the next big thing.

 

[hindy111]

ALSO anyone know any news on Pauli and Lussick re-signing?

 

[Craig Johnston]

Ive been riding this train since the day Hayne left

The Ewing Theory
A theory hashed by ESPN.com writer Bill Simmons and his friend Dave Cirilli. It that explains the reason why teams inexplicably become better after their star player leaves the team for any reason (trade, injury, etc.). Two elements must be present for a situation to be explained by the Ewing Theory: 1) The team has a star player who receives a lot of attention but never wins anything, and 2) The star player leaves the team and everybody writes the team off.
The Knicks lose Patrick Ewing to an injury in a 1999 NBA playoff series with the Indiana Pacers. Everyone writes them off. The Knicks then win three of the next four games and win the series to advance to the NBA finals.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=The+Ewing+Theory

sorry, when did the knicks make the nba finals after ewing retired?

 

[pedge]

sorry, when did the knicks make the nba finals after ewing retired?

he got injured not retired

 

[oldmancraigy]

I think people forget how much of our cap was taken up by players who wereno longer playing with us.

Once we got them off our books we had a lot of extra cash to spend; then there is Jarryd's money on top of that.

We must have salary cap cash to burn right now.

Allegedly 700k last season was being paid to players not with us. How much of that went here, there or everywhere, we don't know.

But we had some plodders on hefty cash, and are paying some blokes like stars when they are far from it. If those numbers are being shuffled around (ie, offering lower amounts), then there is every reason to believe there is still cash to spend.

 

[oldmancraigy]

sorry, when did the knicks make the nba finals after ewing retired?

They didn't.

Solid point. They overcame his loss for a short time, but have been a basketcase ever since then!!! They have only advanced once in 15 years, and have only made the post-season in the pathetically weak conference 5 times since he retired.
In the 15 years he was there, they only twice missed the playoffs, and only twice failed to advance.

Oh yes. The Knicks have been much better since Ewing left. The Ewing Factor :lol:

 

[Gronk]

The outrage over our cap has already begun in the main forum.

I find it equal parts annoying and amusing but either way it is a refreshingly different position to be in compared to 2011-13.

That can't be us mate cos Ram said that it only happens to professionally run teams with business nous.

 

[pedge]

They didn't.

Solid point. They overcame his loss for a short time, but have been a basketcase ever since then!!! They have only advanced once in 15 years, and have only made the post-season in the pathetically weak conference 5 times since he retired.
In the 15 years he was there, they only twice missed the playoffs, and only twice failed to advance.

Oh yes. The Knicks have been much better since Ewing left. The Ewing Factor :lol:

Well we barely made the finals with Hayne....so we are definitely doomed

 

[Avenger]

Ive been riding this train since the day Hayne left

The Ewing Theory
A theory hashed by ESPN.com writer Bill Simmons and his friend Dave Cirilli. It that explains the reason why teams inexplicably become better after their star player leaves the team for any reason (trade, injury, etc.). Two elements must be present for a situation to be explained by the Ewing Theory: 1) The team has a star player who receives a lot of attention but never wins anything, and 2) The star player leaves the team and everybody writes the team off.
The Knicks lose Patrick Ewing to an injury in a 1999 NBA playoff series with the Indiana Pacers. Everyone writes them off. The Knicks then win three of the next four games and win the series to advance to the NBA finals.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=The+Ewing+Theory

As each round is played I am hoping more and more that Hayne makes it. Selfishly I was wishing for him not to so that we can have him back. If that does happen and he fails he should play Union in France with his mate, Inu and maybe return one day to fulfill his destiny of winning a comp in the blue and gold, assuming one exists.

 

[forward pass]

Did you see on NRL360 last night they quoted a few Super League (20th Anniversary) facts. One was that at the height of the SL war the Eels fielded a team worth $11M.

FMD how much was MacCraken, Dymock, Smith and Pay on ? :crazy:

AND why TF did we not win the comp that year ?

I recall Fitzy always denied the side was worth that much so who knows. Around the Canterbury 4 - there wasn't much else really. Ritson, Raper?

 

[Craig Johnston]

he got injured not retired

hang on, didn't ewing come back in the last game and win the game with a dunk?

anyway, this theory is based on one conference final? very conclusive stuff

 

[hindy111]

Also keep in mind this - Hayne would of taken up close to 1 million this year. And 1 million next year. The fact is we probably front loaded guys like tepai and watmough with the spare million for this year. That means over the next two years we would have an extra 500k to spend over the salary cap.
The bulldogs did the same year when they lost a heap of guys-They ended up with the spoon than gf the next year.

Lets say haynes original 1 million is now forans pay.
Than we have a bonus 500k for the next two years( from beeing under this year)
Hoppa would be on IMO about 150k less on new contract.
Sandow id assume would be the same.
There is 800k right there and already accounting for FORAN. Id imagine guys like Falou-Tepai would demand a bigger pay but you talking maybe an xtra 150k each.There aint too many more who would be needing an upgrade IMO.

Also you may cut Morgan+ Terepo + Champion and there is another 450k.Plus pending on lussick staying and if he does again would be for less than getting now.

Oh and Wicks would deff need an upgrade too!

 

[pedge]

hang on, didn't ewing come back in the last game and win the game with a dunk?

anyway, this theory is based on one conference final? very conclusive stuff

I shall remember not to post with you around anymore, if things cannot be taken for what they are.....

 

[oldmancraigy]

Well we barely made the finals with Hayne....so we are definitely doomed

I don't see there being any correlation? Just pointing out that the Ewing factor is a bunch of crap.

Teams don't magically play better when they lose their best player. It takes a lot of hard work to get the team to perform better, and if they do, it is certainly NOT because they lost their best player, it is because the hard work has been put in.

We had a bunch of talented young blokes in the squad last year, and we were only just starting to 'change the culture'. They say it can take 18 months to break a bad culture, hopefully we are well into that process by now. The Warriors game (to me) suggested we were - yes, we got pumped - but to be 'thrashed' 29-16 is very different to getting thrashed 42-10. It shows that the long term process is starting to work doesn't it?

 

[pedge]

I don't see there being any correlation? Just pointing out that the Ewing factor is a bunch of crap.

Teams don't magically play better when they lose their best player. It takes a lot of hard work to get the team to perform better, and if they do, it is certainly NOT because they lost their best player, it is because the hard work has been put in.

We had a bunch of talented young blokes in the squad last year, and we were only just starting to 'change the culture'. They say it can take 18 months to break a bad culture, hopefully we are well into that process by now. The Warriors game (to me) suggested we were - yes, we got pumped - but to be 'thrashed' 29-16 is very different to getting thrashed 42-10. It shows that the long term process is starting to work doesn't it?

I cannot believe that with the amount of absolute tripe that goes through to the keeper on this site, THIS is what gets pulled up and torn apart

It was more a joke than anything, chill out fellas

 

[oldmancraigy]

Also keep in mind this - Hayne would of taken up close to 1 million this year. And 1 million next year. The fact is we probably front loaded guys like tepai and watmough with the spare million for this year. That means over the next two years we would have an extra 500k to spend over the salary cap.
The bulldogs did the same year when they lost a heap of guys-They ended up with the spoon than gf the next year.

Lets say haynes original 1 million is now forans pay.
Than we have a bonus 500k for the next two years( from beeing under this year)
Hoppa would be on IMO about 150k less on new contract.
Sandow id assume would be the same.
There is 800k right there and already accounting for FORAN. Id imagine guys like Falou-Tepai would demand a bigger pay but you talking maybe an xtra 150k each.There aint too many more who would be needing an upgrade IMO.

Also you may cut Morgan+ Terepo + Champion and there is another 450k.Plus pending on lussick staying and if he does again would be for less than getting now.

Oh and Wicks would deff need an upgrade too!

They definitely changed the rules duke111. People can't do what the Dogs did anymore - they effectively paid a contract up front, and were a million over the cap when they won that GF. 'No significant variance' is the rule since then. You can't pay a bloke $700k one year, then $100k the next. The stupid thing is that they don't have a rule on how 'significant' the variance should be. I have suggested they set it at 15%, but that would mean the cap auditor can't do favours for his mates and allow them to have 'significant variance'.... ridiculous!

 

[oldmancraigy]

I cannot believe that with the amount of absolute tripe that goes through to the keeper on this site, THIS is what gets pulled up and torn apart

It was more a joke than anything, chill out fellas

I think all the other posts are well thought out, and carefully crafted. That was clearly the one to pick on.