Rumoured/Confirmed Signings and More Crap XX

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

So boring that it inspired you to post it

 

[Chipmunk]

The stats present bad cos we're coming off the back of 2 wooden spoons.

Pick any team who have had a rough trot and you can write a story about their record on the road.

#boring

We have won 5 games from 18 away from Pirtek since the start of last season, which is still only 27.7%.

Comparing this to other teams during the same time period:

* Titans have won 7 from 14 away from Cbus (50%)
* Sharks have won 4 from 14 away from Remondis (28.5%)
* Raiders have won 6 from 15 away from GIO (40%)
* Dragons have won 8 from 19 away from both WIN's (42.1%)

All four teams were poor last year and have not started this season significantly better, yet all four still have better records away from their main home grounds than Parra.

The Sharks haven't won a game anywhere since last July before last weekend and they still have a better away record!!!

Parra's record away from Pirtek is a joke.

 

[oldmancraigy]

Their point is that it wasn't played at home.

Must sell newspapers.

Right, so home is only Pirtek?

So the Rabbitohs haven't won a home game in a zillion years? Same for the Dogs? Or does it count because they play ALL their games there?

I'm confused.

The Eels have the highest 'home ground average' at ANZ of any team, and were clearly outnumbering the Tigers fans on Friday. Is it because there is a special slope at Pirtek that only we know about? We don't train there, so it can't be that.

 

[oldmancraigy]

The stats present bad cos we're coming off the back of 2 wooden spoons.

Pick any team who have had a rough trot and you can write a story about their record on the road.

#boring

Even the ANZ stats are crap. We were unbeatable at ANZ BEFORE coach Kearney's time. I think we had something like an 80% record at the ground prior to that season. Not that Kearney taught them to play poorly at ANZ, but rather the weak team couldn't win the higher profile games that we were playing there.

It is possible that there is something mental at the club? Some kind of 'bad feeling' which might affect performance. But really, we simply MUST learn to win at the ground if we want finals success.

 

[Chipmunk]

Right, so home is only Pirtek?

So the Rabbitohs haven't won a home game in a zillion years? Same for the Dogs? Or does it count because they play ALL their games there?

I'm confused.

The Eels have the highest 'home ground average' at ANZ of any team, and were clearly outnumbering the Tigers fans on Friday. Is it because there is a special slope at Pirtek that only we know about? We don't train there, so it can't be that.

ANZ is Souths and Dogs Home Ground. In a close competition like the NRL, to play a Home Game at your oppositions Home Ground is just f#$king dumb.

 

[greena]

I am concerned that we are going down the same path as the late 60's and early 70's when we relied too heavily on our juniors.

It is great when a good crop of juniors come along but we have to realise that in most years you will be lucky to get one or two who have potential. Going by the results in the 20's this season and the match reviews there are few if any players worth retaining from the squad.

When you look at most sides players at 19-20 who are going to make it are outstanding week in week out in the nyc and already pushing for firsts - who do we have in our current squad that fits that category.

It's great that we signed Foran but we should look at a few young players from other clubs who are looking for an opportunity. Look ate outside backs in the SG Ball and NYC at Penrith and Souths - they have a lot of young players already ahead of them and may be willing to look elsewhere.

 

[Parra47]

I am concerned that we are going down the same path as the late 60's and early 70's when we relied too heavily on our juniors.

It is great when a good crop of juniors come along but we have to realise that in most years you will be lucky to get one or two who have potential. Going by the results in the 20's this season and the match reviews there are few if any players worth retaining from the squad.

When you look at most sides players at 19-20 who are going to make it are outstanding week in week out in the nyc and already pushing for firsts - who do we have in our current squad that fits that category.

It's great that we signed Foran but we should look at a few young players from other clubs who are looking for an opportunity. Look ate outside backs in the SG Ball and NYC at Penrith and Souths - they have a lot of young players already ahead of them and may be willing to look elsewhere.

I agree. Clinton gutherson can play 1,2,3 and was off contact, if he still is he'd be a great signing.

 

[Chipmunk]

I agree. Clinton gutherson can play 1,2,3 and was off contact, if he still is he'd be a great signing.

Apparently Roger Tuavasa-Sheck is leaving the Rorters to head to the Warriors... You would hope we at least enquired, although he wouldn't have some cheap

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

I am concerned that we are going down the same path as the late 60's and early 70's when we relied too heavily on our juniors.

It is great when a good crop of juniors come along but we have to realise that in most years you will be lucky to get one or two who have potential. Going by the results in the 20's this season and the match reviews there are few if any players worth retaining from the squad.

When you look at most sides players at 19-20 who are going to make it are outstanding week in week out in the nyc and already pushing for firsts - who do we have in our current squad that fits that category.

It's great that we signed Foran but we should look at a few young players from other clubs who are looking for an opportunity. Look ate outside backs in the SG Ball and NYC at Penrith and Souths - they have a lot of young players already ahead of them and may be willing to look elsewhere.

We've been signing juniors from outside the local area for some time (e.g. Moeroa)...what makes you think that we don't look at young players from other clubs junior systems (whatever that means)? We don't necessarily have a record of getting the best ones, but it's not as if the 'home' club will make it easy to grab the best ones.

 

[Gronk]

Apparently Roger Tuavasa-Sheck is leaving the Rorters to head to the Warriors... You would hope we at least enquired, although he wouldn't have some cheap

Imagine having RTS + Shaun J in the same team. :crazy:

 

[pedge]

I cant see a scenario where the roosters lose someone whom they would want to keep, like RTS

 

[oldmancraigy]

ANZ is Souths and Dogs Home Ground. In a close competition like the NRL, to play a Home Game at your oppositions Home Ground is just f#$king dumb.

It is kind of a neutral ground isn't it? 5 teams play home games there, us being one of them, and us having the highest home ground attendance at the venue.
It is also closest to our 'patch'. When we play there, we tend to have the greater amount of support.

Wouldn't all that suggest that it is pretty dumb for them to be playing their home games against us there?

Not having a go at you at all, but we cannot let results that really MUST change dictate strategy.




Crowd averages at ANZ:
Parra 31,285
Souths 16,652 (from 2012 to the present they average 20,609 at the venue)
Bulldogs 19,399
Wests 23,688
St Geo/Illa 20,103

 

[Gronk]

I cant see a scenario where the roosters lose someone whom they would want to keep, like RTS

I read somewhere the Pommy FB is homesick. So there is big coin available for RTS in NZ.

 

[oldmancraigy]

The point of the article was that we do not have a good record away from Pirtek.

Whilst we choose to play less games than we can at Pirtek, we appear to be choosing to not playing in final series.

Given our record at Pirtek, it's difficult to see us missing the Top 8 last year if we had played two extra games at Pirtek.

So the players would have tried harder if the games were at Pirtek? I don't get it. We beat the Dogs at ANZ last season, and lost to them at ANZ. They were a team who made the GF. You think if our home game against them had been at Pirtek we would have won both contests? Or did we do well to split the games against a grand final team?

We lost to Souths at Pirtek, had we lost to them at ANZ, people would have been saying 'oh, but we would have won at Pirtek'. Why?
We also lost to Newcastle at Pirtek last year (when they were about last). Would we have won if we played that game at Pirtek instead? Oh whoops.


Now, no doubt the team seems to win more games at Pirtek, but we also lose games there. There is nothing to suggest we SHOULD win every game we play there. We had half a game of our 3rd string centre against the Tigers. We aren't going to beat anyone anywhere with 2 forwards playing out wide.

 

[Chipmunk]

So the players would have tried harder if the games were at Pirtek? I don't get it. We beat the Dogs at ANZ last season, and lost to them at ANZ. They were a team who made the GF. You think if our home game against them had been at Pirtek we would have won both contests? Or did we do well to split the games against a grand final team?

We lost to Souths at Pirtek, had we lost to them at ANZ, people would have been saying 'oh, but we would have won at Pirtek'. Why?
We also lost to Newcastle at Pirtek last year (when they were about last). Would we have won if we played that game at Pirtek instead? Oh whoops.


Now, no doubt the team seems to win more games at Pirtek, but we also lose games there. There is nothing to suggest we SHOULD win every game we play there. We had half a game of our 3rd string centre against the Tigers. We aren't going to beat anyone anywhere with 2 forwards playing out wide.

Statistics showed that last year we were a better team at Pirtek than not at Pirtek.

If we played more games at Pirtek last season, statistics show that we would have more than likely than not have won more games last season.

If we had won just won more game last season we would have made the Top 8.

We beat the Dogs in an Away game at ANZ during Origin. Origin period is a bit of a lottery and we came up with the goods on that occassion. It's possible we will also win some games Away during the Origin period this year also. Possible, but not Probabable.

Statistics show that if we had played the Tigers and Dogs at Pirtek last season that we would have more likely than not have won those games.

Statistics for this season is that we are 100% at Pirtek and 0% not at Pirtek. Although after 5 matches this is a small sample size.

Unless we can at least win all 9 games this year at Pirtek, we are statistically probably not going to make the Top 8 (which I don't think we will anyway). Every loss at Pirtek means that we are more likely than not of missing the Top 8.

 

[pedge]

I read somewhere the Pommy FB is homesick. So there is big coin available for RTS in NZ.

Yeh I read the same thing....they are talking 800+
But the roosters (and theyre supporters) have pretty deep pockets themselves

 

[Forty20]

Gaining RTS but losing Tomkins means there would be diddily squat in the way of change in their cap and thus no pressure to release anyone but one player I wouldn't mind pinching from the Warriors is Tui Lolohea.

 

[oldmancraigy]

Statistics showed that last year we were a better team at Pirtek than not at Pirtek.

If we played more games at Pirtek last season, statistics show that we would have more than likely than not have won more games last season.

If we had won just won more game last season we would have made the Top 8.

We beat the Dogs in an Away game at ANZ during Origin. Origin period is a bit of a lottery and we came up with the goods on that occassion. It's possible we will also win some games Away during the Origin period this year also. Possible, but not Probabable.

Statistics show that if we had played the Tigers and Dogs at Pirtek last season that we would have more likely than not have won those games.

Statistics for this season is that we are 100% at Pirtek and 0% not at Pirtek. Although after 5 matches this is a small sample size.

Unless we can at least win all 9 games this year at Pirtek, we are statistically probably not going to make the Top 8 (which I don't think we will anyway). Every loss at Pirtek means that we are more likely than not of missing the Top 8.

:?

Statistics also show that ANZ is more our home ground than anyone else's. So we should statistically win there more than anyone else.

Maybe the ground staff spike our Powerade??

 

[Chipmunk]

:?

Statistics also show that ANZ is more our home ground than anyone else's. So we should statistically win there more than anyone else.

Maybe the ground staff spike our Powerade??

How is a ground we play Home Games at twice a year statistically more of Parra's home ground than the people who play up to 10-12 home games per year there?

 

[El Diablo]

i can't think of any reason why we go no good at ANZ

the field is the same dimensions as Pirtek

i think it's just a statistical anomaly