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Rumoured Signings 2011/2012 II

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boxhead

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Clarification? NOONE "clarifies" what players are on. Noone knows with 100% certainty.

Crowe would have known the offer he was competing against. It's common sense.

Exactly my point. No one knows with any certainty.
So how could Crowe have known the figure?

You are contradicting yourself there. It is not common sense for him to have known. It might have been 550K including third party deals, but 400K under the cap, not 550K under the cap. He said with certainty in his tweet what the offer was, but there is no way he would have known anything concrete, which leads me to believe it was an act of petulance much like your CEO's 'Alan Bond' comment.
Who would tell him the figure anyway? Sandow's agent?
 

boxhead

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So no one can know for certain but you're certain that he isn't on $550k?

No. I said that he may well be on that figure.
My point is, it's highly unlikely that it is accurate.

I said Hopoate may well be on 800K too.
Again, considering the circumstances, that doesn't seem likely either.
 

M2D2

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"So how could Crowe have known the figure?"
Because Sandows agent would have gone back to Souths management claiming Parra are offering X. Match it or we are going.
Russ owns Souths. Management would have went "He wanted X"
Russ did the unprofessional thing and tweeted it.

Eels fans ITT are geniused and lack all logic. Just like their recruitment.
 

Y2Eel

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"So how could Crowe have known the figure?"
Because Sandows agent would have gone back to Souths management claiming Parra are offering X. Match it or we are going.
Russ owns Souths. Management would have went "He wanted X"
Russ did the unprofessional thing and tweeted it.

Eels fans ITT are geniused and lack all logic. Just like their recruitment.

Logic maybe when Russ tweeted he was using his emotional side of his brain not his logical side....


Maybe when Russ tweeted he just threw that figure out there and had a good good maybe your a midget maybe your not see where we are going its all heresy you dont have a clue what any player is on much like branmoron3000000 and bunninesgimp...

watching you fools Making your selves feel better though cos you think your oh so correct is fun to watch and troll though...
 

boxhead

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"So how could Crowe have known the figure?"
Because Sandows agent would have gone back to Souths management claiming Parra are offering X. Match it or we are going.
Russ owns Souths. Management would have went "He wanted X"
Russ did the unprofessional thing and tweeted it.

Eels fans ITT are geniused and lack all logic. Just like their recruitment.

Need I specify that I meant the exact figure?
When clubs were negotiating with T-Rex's agent do you really think he went and told all of them the exact figure that each club offered?
I can imagine that;
"Parra offered 400K, 300K under the cap, 100K subsidised under third-party agreements."

400K under the cap isn't bad money, but Souths fans think it is 550K under the cap, which is what I am disputing.
More likely than the above, following the example it would have been;
"Parra offered 400K"

Is that too hard to understand? Because from where I stand 400K was not overs. 550K was but would Crowe really know the ins and outs of the deal? He might have known a rough figure, but nothing exact.

I don't even know why this argument is still ongoing really, neither side really has any factual basis to go on because for all we know Crowe was pulling the figure out of his ass, which apparently Eels officials indicated.
Who do you trust more? Crowe or the people that signed him?
No facts but the most likely option, which is my entire point that you have missed, is that it is not what was tweeted by Crowe.

And even then, did you miss the rest of my post where I specifically said that Crowe's tweet was posted with certainty on an exact figure - one that I severely doubt he would have known, thus leading credence to the notion that he was simply bullsh*tting. Souths fans have interpreted it to be 550K under the cap. Eels fans have interpreted it to be 400K plus third-party agreements.
 
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boxhead

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Idiots throw around the word "Maybe" Not trolls.
Keep dreaming genius.

:lol: Point me to where Sandow is actually on 550K, moron.
Point me to concrete evidence to say that "maybe" is not the most applicable word for this pathetic argument.
Because people saying it was 400K is as much evidence as Rusty saying it was 550K, and thinking otherwise is stupid.

You and Souths fans saying Eels fans are pedantic or idiotic for arguing over this should learn the meaning of the word 'hypocrisy'. It ultimately doesn't matter either way because he is in terrible form at the moment and the figure, whatever it was, is overs. That's a fact that no Rugby League fan will dispute.
 
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M2D2

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Third Party payments are not allowed to be organised by the club.
This was discussed when Souths tried to put a huge chunk of his paycheck as third party payments that were organised by the phone chucker himself.
Who do you trust more? Crowe or the people that signed him?
Mr Crowe.
:lol: Point me to where Sandow is actually on 550K, moron.
Point to where i said that comment was replying to you.
Jeez you Eels fans are Special.
 

Rainbow

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Who cares what he is on? The reality is you need to look at total rosters rather than individual players. Parra have a few very good players but overall their squad is not as good as most others.
 

boxhead

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Third Party payments are not allowed to be organised by the club.
This was discussed when Souths tried to put a huge chunk of his paycheck as third party payments that were organised by the phone chucker himself.

Mr Crowe.

Then who organises it?
It's irrelevant in any case.

Funnily enough, I don't really trust the Eels board anymore either. But I have enough sense to believe they'd know what they are paying one of their own players moreso than Mr Crowe.

It doesn't matter if it was directed at me or you because your argument is still as paper thin as mine and the word "maybe" is certainly applicable, in this situation.
 

boxhead

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Who cares what he is on? The reality is you need to look at total rosters rather than individual players. Parra have a few very good players but overall their squad is not as good as most others.

Pretty much spot on.
It's not a terrible squad by any means, it's a decent one.
The reality is our entire team is under-performing, and even if were only comparable to other teams seen to have weak squads before, we are falling behind because of a lack of confidence and effective coaching.
 

MatthewA

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Need I specify that I meant the exact figure?
When clubs were negotiating with T-Rex's agent do you really think he went and told all of them the exact figure that each club offered?
I can imagine that;
"Parra offered 400K, 300K under the cap, 100K subsidised under third-party agreements."

400K under the cap isn't bad money, but Souths fans think it is 550K under the cap, which is what I am disputing.
More likely than the above, following the example it would have been;
"Parra offered 400K"

Is that too hard to understand? Because from where I stand 400K was not overs. 550K was but would Crowe really know the ins and outs of the deal? He might have known a rough figure, but nothing exact.

I don't even know why this argument is still ongoing really, neither side really has any factual basis to go on because for all we know Crowe was pulling the figure out of his ass, which apparently Eels officials indicated.
Who do you trust more? Crowe or the people that signed him?
No facts but the most likely option, which is my entire point that you have missed, is that it is not what was tweeted by Crowe.

And even then, did you miss the rest of my post where I specifically said that Crowe's tweet was posted with certainty on an exact figure - one that I severely doubt he would have known, thus leading credence to the notion that he was simply bullsh*tting. Souths fans have interpreted it to be 550K under the cap. Eels fans have interpreted it to be 400K plus third-party agreements.
400k for Sandow isn't overs? Sheesh..
 

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:lol: Point me to where Sandow is actually on 550K, moron.
Point me to concrete evidence to say that "maybe" is not the most applicable word for this pathetic argument.
Because people saying it was 400K is as much evidence as Rusty saying it was 550K, and thinking otherwise is stupid.

You and Souths fans saying Eels fans are pedantic or idiotic for arguing over this should learn the meaning of the word 'hypocrisy'. It ultimately doesn't matter either way because he is in terrible form at the moment and the figure, whatever it was, is overs. That's a fact that no Rugby League fan will dispute.

lol , every article in the media on Sandow , states he is on $550k .Get over it , if you are so concerned this is incorrect , then contact the media and get a correction. I would expect that Eels management would have done this already if indeed this number was incorrect. enough said .:lol:

oh yea , of course Sandow joined Eels because he loved them and money was not the factor:lol:. they paid overs, enough said
 

boxhead

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400k for Sandow isn't overs? Sheesh..

There's a difference between past and present tense.
The key word in that sentence is "was".
At the time, 400K would not have been overs. 550K would have been.
But, as I said, it probably doesn't matter what he is on given his form.
 

boxhead

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Your(the blind eels loyalty) argument doesnt hold water under the guise of Maybe.

Your (the blind Crowe loyalty) argument doesn't hold water under the guise of maybe.

lol , every article in the media on Sandow , states he is on $550k .Get over it , if you are so concerned this is incorrect , then contact the media and get a correction. I would expect that Eels management would have done this already if indeed this number was incorrect. enough said .:lol:

oh yea , of course Sandow joined Eels because he loved them and money was not the factor:lol:. they paid overs, enough said

Uh-huh, because the Eels have been heavily involved in the media to correct stories that come out. Like how they said Anderson was not going to be sacked, like how they have been silent on pretty much every player rumour that comes out. Yes, great argument there.
Obviously Sandow joined for the money. Was it 550K though? I doubt it.
 
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