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Bazal

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What's race got to do with it? Cheyse Blair is the dumbest footballer in our side he's whiter than I am
 

IFR33K

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Not adding fuel to the fire or being racist, but poly's are generally bigger and stronger. White guys tend to have more stamina. The speed at which the game is played nowadays, would probably suits the white guys. Poly's have also had the reputation of being lazy on the footy field, so who knows.

I have being saying it for a couple of years now, that we need more white fellas in the team. Never have I mentioned it on a public forum for obvious reasons. Glad it's being mentioned by someone else.

As for Polynesian coach, pass.
 

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If there ard no injuries The reason Stewart will prob be picked at fullback for nsw over hayne and Maloney 5/8 over sutton is because of their consistency and ability to make good decisions on the field, even though hayne and sutton are bigger, stronger, faster and probably more skillful.

And you know where hayne and sutton will play for nsw if they get picked? Wing/centre for hayne and edge back rower for sutton. Does that mean Daley is racist?
 

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I think bringing race into things doesn't help. Culture might be a valid reason for certain attitudes and behaviours, particularly with players who are first generation migrants, but the problems associated with that would dissipate as certain groups get more settled and established in Australia.

It is a valid point to suggest that a player whose game in the junior levels has been built on strength and power may have less nuanced skills than another player who lacks that type of physical strength. That might account for the differences between Loko and Morgan and its a point that can be made without referencing (unhelpfully) race.
 

Jason70

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What's race got to do with it? Cheyse Blair is the dumbest footballer in our side he's whiter than I am

Not true Baz, Ben Smith is dumber but not much in it, although u have to give it to Smith. He has been giving away penalties and dropping the ball at critical times for a number of years
 

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Does it really matter in relation to backgrounds anymore? I think we are being too generalistic and a tad racist. Some of the best halves our game have produced have been aboriginal. Does that mean they are smarter footballers than Polynesians?

I think it clearly does, and TheRam touched on why in his post.

Players learn best how to play the game while they are children. This is where their skills are honed and instincts developed.

Naturally then, children with different physical gifts will develop different instincts and ways of looking at the game. It's no coincidence that (most) Aboriginal children learn to see the game in terms of space and avoiding collisions, while most physically powerful kids (including most Polynesians) see the game as a contest of physical power.

There is a similar issue in the US, where the most physically gifted quarterbacks (regardless of race) often don't develop their ability to read the game because all through childhood and college they can resort to running the ball rather than holding their ground and making the pass. This is why many of the best college quarterbacks go undrafted in the NFL.

So when people say "Blacks can't play quarterback" or "Polys don't have any football brains" they are rightly derided as racist because correlation doesn't equal causality.

Athletic white quarterbacks also struggle to read pass coverage, and powerful white rugby league players aren't generally known for their football brains either. Anyone remember Paul Carige? Pretty sure that merkin was white, and as dumb as Ben Roberts.
 

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I think it clearly does, and TheRam touched on why in his post.

Players learn best how to play the game while they are children. This is where their skills are honed and instincts developed.

Naturally then, children with different physical gifts will develop different instincts and ways of looking at the game. It's no coincidence that (most) Aboriginal children learn to see the game in terms of space and avoiding collisions, while most physically powerful kids (including most Polynesians) see the game as a contest of physical power.

There is a similar issue in the US, where the most physically gifted quarterbacks (regardless of race) often don't develop their ability to read the game because all through childhood and college they can resort to running the ball rather than holding their ground and making the pass. This is why many of the best college quarterbacks go undrafted in the NFL.

So when people say "Blacks can't play quarterback" or "Polys don't have any football brains" they are rightly derided as racist because correlation doesn't equal causality.

Athletic white quarterbacks also struggle to read pass coverage, and powerful white rugby league players aren't generally known for their football brains either. Anyone remember Paul Carige? Pretty sure that merkin was white, and as dumb as Ben Roberts.

Genuine question: Pou or anyone else who follows the NFL (i only follow the NBA), who are the top quaterbacks in the NFL these days and who do they play for? I remember a couple of years ago there was a big fuss over that Tebo fella (Tebo time or something) but wasn't he a ball running quaterback as Pou talked about?
 

DeanPay98

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Genuine question: Pou or anyone else who follows the NFL (i only follow the NBA), who are the top quaterbacks in the NFL these days and who do they play for? I remember a couple of years ago there was a big fuss over that Tebo fella (Tebo time or something) but wasn't he a ball running quaterback as Pou talked about?

FFS please don't give PooPoo an opportunity to respond and especially not on race (he's a bit "sensitive").

At any rate, if it was all down to intelligence all the quarter-backs would be Indian. You have to admit we are smart. So smart that most Indians don't play a game where concussion leads to long term health issues.

Completely irrelevant I know, but talking about race and football is annoying.
 

Noise

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FFS please don't give PooPoo an opportunity to respond and especially not on race (he's a bit "sensitive").

At any rate, if it was all down to intelligence all the quarter-backs would be Indian. You have to admit we are smart. So smart that most Indians don't play a game where concussion leads to long term health issues.

Completely irrelevant I know, but talking about race and football is annoying.

Have you heard of cricket?

Tell Justin Langer that

http://www.smh.com.au/news/columns/...ill-crazy-brave/2007/01/01/1167500062651.html
 

Poupou Escobar

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Genuine question: Pou or anyone else who follows the NFL (i only follow the NBA), who are the top quaterbacks in the NFL these days and who do they play for? I remember a couple of years ago there was a big fuss over that Tebo fella (Tebo time or something) but wasn't he a ball running quaterback as Pou talked about?

Being able to run the ball is still an advantage for a QB, and there have been plenty of good passers that can also run.

It's just that being a good runner provides so many college quarterbacks with an excuse not to hone their passing that many of them never develop that aspect as well as they could.

But the good runners who do develop their passing games become stars. Because they are exceptional.

It's like Benji - with his acceleration and footwork he could have easily become a one-dimensional running player. The fact that he didn't is why he is the best player in the game (your opinion probably varies).
 

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Genuine question: Pou or anyone else who follows the NFL (i only follow the NBA), who are the top quaterbacks in the NFL these days and who do they play for? I remember a couple of years ago there was a big fuss over that Tebo fella (Tebo time or something) but wasn't he a ball running quaterback as Pou talked about?

The new Big Gun Quarterback in the NFL is RG3 - aka Robert Grifiin III. Ironically a black quaterback...which is unusual, as although probably around 50% of the players in the NFL are black, the % of quaterback's is generally alot less. Still he is only early in his career so to compare him to Brady or Manning or a few of the other experienced guys is a bit premature.

Tebow can run and pass and was a big gun College Quarterback, but I talk to people in the know who have told me Tebow will never make it in the NFL because he doesnt really have the ability to think on his feet (make his own decisions)...Im pretty sure NFL Quarterbacks, and College as well, are wired up to the offensive co-ordinator to call the play for them. But if the play goes bad and the Quarterback needs to come up with a Plan B immediately, this is what generally separates the good and the bad NFL Quarterbacks.
 
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