What's new
The Front Row Forums

Register a free account today to become a member of the world's largest Rugby League discussion forum! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Rumoured Signings and Even More Crap X

Status
Not open for further replies.

Poupou Escobar

Post Whore
Messages
92,777
FFS please don't give PooPoo an opportunity to respond and especially not on race (he's a bit "sensitive").

At any rate, if it was all down to intelligence all the quarter-backs would be Indian. You have to admit we are smart. So smart that most Indians don't play a game where concussion leads to long term health issues.

Completely irrelevant I know, but talking about race and football is annoying.

And I'm the sensitive one? lol

Also, I agree that the Indians rich enough to migrate out of India are smarter than the average Aussie. Also helps that culturally they value education more than the average Australian does.

As for concussion, my brother-in-law played rugby right up until his early 20s. Now that he is a doctor he won't let my nephews (his kids) play contact sports. He says the long term consequences are massive.

Personally I think there are more important qualities in life than being smart, and you better believe I'll be signing my daughter up for women's rugby.

"f**ken smash her!!!!!"
 

hindy111

Post Whore
Messages
63,764
Top QB's
Ok last season you had three rookies who where stars in there debut seasons
RG3-African american
Wilson-African american
kapernaick-African american

All have great running games.And can pass too

But the 3 best QB's would be
Brady-Caucasian- cant run
Rodgers-Caucasian-Not a great runner
Manning -caucasian-cant run

The games changing at the moment where running qb's are in fashion.And african american qb's seem to have to superior running games and more athletic.

It could be simply they use what skills they are best at the most thou???
 

Chipmunk

Coach
Messages
17,434
With tautai gone we may need him especially through origin because Timmy may get a call up. Ironic that Ricky dropped him from origin but now has nothing but praise for the bloke. I hope Ricky is in daley a ear because Timmy is probably the form nsw prop at the moment

I think it is completely different to consider one thing to drop a player because he is not good enough to play State Of Origin, to a player being a good solid front rower in the NRL...
 

Noise

Coach
Messages
18,269
Being able to run the ball is still an advantage for a QB, and there have been plenty of good passers that can also run.

It's just that being a good runner provides so many college quarterbacks with an excuse not to hone their passing that many of them never develop that aspect as well as they could.

But the good runners who do develop their passing games become stars. Because they are exceptional.

It's like Benji - with his acceleration and footwork he could have easily become a one-dimensional running player. The fact that he didn't is why he is the best player in the game (your opinion probably varies).

haha it probably does but im not getting into that argument with you

The new Big Gun Quarterback in the NFL is RG3 - aka Robert Grifiin III. Ironically a black quaterback...which is unusual, as although probably around 50% of the players in the NFL are black, the % of quaterback's is generally alot less. Still he is only early in his career so to compare him to Brady or Manning or a few of the other experienced guys is a bit premature.

Tebow can run and pass and was a big gun College Quarterback, but I talk to people in the know who have told me Tebow will never make it in the NFL because he doesnt really have the ability to think on his feet (make his own decisions)...Im pretty sure NFL Quarterbacks, and College as well, are wired up to the offensive co-ordinator to call the play for them. But if the play goes bad and the Quarterback needs to come up with a Plan B immediately, this is what generally separates the good and the bad NFL Quarterbacks.

Cheers mate. Good info.
 

Chipmunk

Coach
Messages
17,434
Just on our players at the club and in the league generally. The more I watch the more I am coming to the opinion and I know that this has been brought up many times before, that we as a club in particular, have to many Islanders in our squad.

I know that this statement won't be popular with a lot of insecure politically corrects out there, but if you're one of these, please try to understand what I am saying here.

I'm talking about football savvy here, nothing else. I believe that many of these guys, due to their obvious power and size advantage while growing up, stunts them of the finer points of the game, like in particular, awareness and even simple things like running good lines.

Sure many of them show Harlem globe trotter skills at times, but generally that is against weak defense or they try it all the time in the most inappropriate times. I feel, again this is partly due to their nature, but also and probably mainly due to their power advantage while growing up which allowed them to get away with it growing up and has now become second nature.

But simple things like line running is beyond so many of them, which I suppose is fair enough when all your life growing up, who needed to develop that skill(and believe me it is a skill) when all you have to do is run over people all the time. A glaring example of this is players like Loko v Morgan.

Loko just has no idea about anything other than running hard and smashing his way through and that is fine to a point of course, but a player like Morgan needed to learn skills that would allow him to beat his opposition without the collision.

So now who is the better FOOTBALLER???

My point is, have we got to many islanders in our team, with their penchant to clock off easily when the game is tight and their high mistake rate?

I for one have come around to the realization that we have and on a greater scale the NRL itself is also suffering due to this, with so many terrible and dumb decisions out on the field over the last couple of years by so many footballers who are just not footballers, but powerfully bulldozers.

So many out there really don't have a clue, I mean they can't even draw and pass to an unmarked player and look at the amount of times backline movements have gone awry due to players passing way too deep and out to touch because their outside men had no idea how to simply set themselves up to capitalize by running onto the ball. Timing, line running, drawing, passing, catching, running to the weaker shoulder of a defender, instead of just running without thought, catching bombs, all these little things in our team, in particular, are woefully.

Sure I know all players no matter what their descent make errors, that is not the point, I am referring to the lack of football nous and fundamental skill level appropriate to the position a player takes in the team and at the moment I think we have gone over the tipping point of having way to many robots and not enough footballers in our team, which is also being reflected in the NRL.

What are others thoughts on this matter?

I think alot of your points you make a valid, irrespective of the race issue. I think in general you cannot have too many players that can only just try and run over the top of other players. Alot of this mentallity is driven into players from a young age or are bigger and faster than their opposition and really dont have to have any skills to be good players.
 

Poupou Escobar

Post Whore
Messages
92,777
They are not whites, they are called Anglo (Anglo Saxons)

Anglos are only a small portion of what we call white people.

Tim Mannah is white but not Anglo. Curtis Sironen is at least partly Finno-Ugric (Sironen is a Finnish name), which is also not Anglo.

Then there are guys like Clinton Schifcofske who is Slavic, not Anglo. Don't forget Gary Larson whose grandparents came from Sweden. He is also not Anglo-Saxon.

It's actually quite offensive that you would tar all white peoples with the same brush (pun intended). White people are not all Anglo. They are indigenous to all of Europe, the Middle East and central Asia. The Pashtuns of Afghanistan refer to themselves as 'white' and Anglo-Saxons as 'red' people.

#NotReallyOffendedButHaveBeenTaughtToTakeEveryOpportunityToPretendIAm
 

DeanPay98

Juniors
Messages
1,116
Anglos are only a small portion of what we call white people.

Tim Mannah is white but not Anglo. Curtis Sironen is at least partly Finno-Ugric (Sironen is a Finnish name), which is also not Anglo.

Then there are guys like Clinton Schifcofske who is Slavic, not Anglo. Don't forget Gary Larson whose grandparents came from Sweden. He is also not Anglo-Saxon.

It's actually quite offensive that you would tar all white peoples with the same brush (pun intended). White people are not all Anglo. They are indigenous to all of Europe, the Middle East and central Asia. The Pashtuns of Afghanistan refer to themselves as 'white' and Anglo-Saxons as 'red' people.

#NotReallyOffendedButHaveBeenTaughtToTakeEveryOpportunityToPretendIAm

Actually the Anglo-Saxons are made up of the Angles, Saxons, Jutes and Celts. So Larson's forbears would fit in.

Mostly when people talk of white they mean Anglo-Saxon. Particularly, in the context of 'white privilege'.
 

DeanPay98

Juniors
Messages
1,116
And I'm the sensitive one? lol

Also, I agree that the Indians rich enough to migrate out of India are smarter than the average Aussie.[Not exactly hard]
Also helps that culturally they value education more than the average Australian does. [Who doesn't?]

As for concussion, my brother-in-law played rugby right up until his early 20s. Now that he is a doctor he won't let my nephews (his kids) play contact sports. He says the long term consequences are massive.

Personally I think there are more important qualities in life than being smart, and you better believe I'll be signing my daughter up for women's rugby.

"f**ken smash her!!!!!"

I just don't want you to get your feelings hurt.
#JustBecauseICare

The only thing more important than being smart is being wealthy. Still, its better to be both.
#I'mReallySmug
 

DeanPay98

Juniors
Messages
1,116
Some people on here and some cultures seem to confuse educated with smart.

Don't be offended we're not being serious. There are at least four different types of intelligence: mechanical intelligence, conceptual intelligence, numerical intelligence and the one that a lot of sportspeople and musicians actually do have where they can respond to things in real time and anticipate changes in situations again in real time.
 

Kornstar

Coach
Messages
15,578
Top QB's
Ok last season you had three rookies who where stars in there debut seasons
RG3-African american
Wilson-African american
kapernaick-African american

All have great running games.And can pass too

But the 3 best QB's would be
Brady-Caucasian- cant run
Rodgers-Caucasian-Not a great runner
Manning -caucasian-cant run

The games changing at the moment where running qb's are in fashion.And african american qb's seem to have to superior running games and more athletic.

It could be simply they use what skills they are best at the most thou???

You forgot Andrew Luck for my team the Colts, he had an outstanding Rookie season, he is Caucasian for the record.

RG3 is impressive though, shame he was only on one leg in their last game.
 
Messages
11,677
Don't be offended we're not being serious. There are at least four different types of intelligence: mechanical intelligence, conceptual intelligence, numerical intelligence and the one that a lot of sportspeople and musicians actually do have where they can respond to things in real time and anticipate changes in situations again in real time.

According to Gardner there are seven.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Latest posts

Top