Rumoured Signings and Even More Crap X

[Poupou Escobar]

We could use depth in just about every position actually. I assume that's what he'd be recruited for.

No, everyone we sign is intended to play in the top 17 and if he's shit then WE NEED TO f**k HIM OFF!!!

 

[hindy111]

We signed hoppa for 750k.that is crap.we signed him back when the cap wasnt up.
I dont believe it for a second.Why would we pay gum that when guys like hodges where prob on 450 tops.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

We signed hoppa for 750k.that is crap.we signed him back when the cap wasnt up.
I dont believe it for a second.Why would we pay gum that when guys like hodges where prob on 450 tops.

Because it is costless to pull a number out of our own arses and assert that it is the truth. Then others can use that number as the basis for their own judgements on the quality of management.

 

[I bleed blue & gold]

I didn't mind Collis at the Tigers, but i thought he was poor at the Sharks.

 

[Gronk]

Dave's not here man

This deserved a quoted response.

:lol:

 

[natheel]

Where would Collis even play with us?

 

[I bleed blue & gold]

Where would Collis even play with us?

Dunno. Im guessing it's rubbish anyway mate. He is still under contract for next year too (not that it means much these days).

 

[84 Baby]

can you imagine the nrl if there was no salary cap whatsoever with players on multimillion dollar contracts like the top soccer stars

Ultimately it'd never work. Rugby league just doesn't have the population size to warrant the dollars players want. Economies of scale. Regardless of the intensity of fan following, 1 rabid fan doesn't make up for the roughly 14 average fan American sports can muster and definitely not the over 200 even so-so fans that soccer call on. The system would at best reset at a lower standard with players receiving as much as they are now with an economy enforced salary cap

 

[oldmancraigy]

Ultimately it'd never work. Rugby league just doesn't have the population size to warrant the dollars players want. Economies of scale. Regardless of the intensity of fan following, 1 rabid fan doesn't make up for the roughly 14 average fan American sports can muster and definitely not the over 200 even so-so fans that soccer call on. The system would at best reset at a lower standard with players receiving as much as they are now with an economy enforced salary cap

They'd definitely get more than they currently are! For proof look to the rorting efforts of Dogs and Storm in the last 10 years.

Many clubs (most?) can afford to spend more than the salary cap. So deals would certainly increase.

Also, there are already multi million dollar contracts - if Thurston's reported deal isn't "multi" million dollar, then I'm not sure what is?
I doubt anyone would get $2m per year straight off the bat, but it wouldn't be beyond the realms of imagination to see those numbers without a cap.

I think it's a bad idea, it'd mean poor clubs are perennially bad clubs

 

[84 Baby]

They'd definitely get more than they currently are! For proof look to the rorting efforts of Dogs and Storm in the last 10 years.

Many clubs (most?) can afford to spend more than the salary cap. So deals would certainly increase.

Also, there are already multi million dollar contracts - if Thurston's reported deal isn't "multi" million dollar, then I'm not sure what is?
I doubt anyone would get $2m per year straight off the bat, but it wouldn't be beyond the realms of imagination to see those numbers without a cap.

I think it's a bad idea, it'd mean poor clubs are perennially bad clubs

I was referring to the multimillion deals that topline Euro soccer players get. I agree initially players would receive pay increases, starting with bidding wars for representative players. Politis would go to Cameron Smith and ask how much he would have to offer to get him to Roosters, then he'd go back and try to make that happen and so on. Then clubs would move onto the best junior talent, buy them up and stockpile them. The excess money is now starting to dry up so the next tier will initially be only earning roughly want they are now and some of these guys will recognise they can earn more easier overseas or in a different sport.

This will happen year after year until it's the national teams plus guys like you and me. And there'd be entire teams (say Tigers & Penrith) who'd be almost entirely made up of park players with some decent under radar players who'd they'd probably lose in couple of years anyway. So the competition starts to suffer, there'd be some fans who stuck with it, but as I said for these dollar salaries for every 1 fan you lose would be the equivalent of 200 Man Utd fans leaving them. Then as fans leave, sponsors leave, which of course means less money for players, so more players start leaving.

No salary cap would work, just not the way the people (current players, agents, big market clubs) who would benefit the most initially from it would want it to work. The economy, fanbase & time would calculate how much the 'salary cap' was

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

I don't think one can usefully look at salary cap changes in isolation from the rest of the recruitment / transfer systems. A 'freer' salary cap, in conjunction with a genuine draft for U-20s (or whatever level), with the ability to sell players/picks quite freely may not be as bad for the poorer teams as it first appears.

Have a look in MLB....the Tampa Bay spend less than 40% of the Yankees payroll, have few fans who can be bothered attending games, and have been more than competitive.

Ultimately in the long run, teams run by leagues clubs are going to struggle against those on a more conventional commercial footing.....salary cap or not.

 

[natheel]

This is just a thought. On Soward possibly being released early by Dragons. Lets say Panthers don't take him early (unlikely) but with the form of their halves I can't see Soward getting a run there at the moment. Could Ricky step in and take Soward for the remainder of this year? It's just a thought. Would be better than what Kelly has shown this year

 

[born an eel]

Dave's not here man

This deserved a quoted response.

:lol:

:lol::lol:
cheech & chong fans :alcho:

 

[84 Baby]

A 'freer' salary cap, in conjunction with a genuine draft for U-20s (or whatever level), with the ability to sell players/picks quite freely may not be as bad for the poorer teams as it first appears.

Would require consent from players association and hasn't been forthcoming since Terry Hill's case (which isn't as be-all and end-all as people think). Again it works in American sports because of the dollars and weight of the draft system. Draftees get guaranteed salaries dependent on their draft position and give the amount of available players currently and in the future, players aren't usually stupid enough to give up money. Any draft system in the NRL wouldn't be able to provide draftees with enough guaranteed salary to make in incentive for players nor enough guaranteed years of contract to make it feasible for teams. And for a club's ability to sell/trade players, firstly see Terry Hill for currently why the team would have issues and then see SBW for why it isn't really an issue for the player to say no to moving teams

 

[84 Baby]

This is just a thought. On Soward possibly being released early by Dragons. Lets say Panthers don't take him early (unlikely) but with the form of their halves I can't see Soward getting a run there at the moment. Could Ricky step in and take Soward for the remainder of this year? It's just a thought. Would be better than what Kelly has shown this year

TBH while Soward may be the difference between winning or losing a grand final for us, he wouldn't be the difference between making/not making finals and so for mine ATM wouldn't be worth the money or effort

 

[Gronk]

This is just a thought. On Soward possibly being released early by Dragons. Lets say Panthers don't take him early (unlikely) but with the form of their halves I can't see Soward getting a run there at the moment. Could Ricky step in and take Soward for the remainder of this year? It's just a thought. Would be better than what Kelly has shown this year

Seems a very odd thing to do by Steve Price.

Rugby League Week ‏@LeagueWeek 31m Reports that Steve Price has given Jamie Soward time off from training to consider his future at the Dragons. #RedV

 

[I bleed blue & gold]

This is just a thought. On Soward possibly being released early by Dragons. Lets say Panthers don't take him early (unlikely) but with the form of their halves I can't see Soward getting a run there at the moment. Could Ricky step in and take Soward for the remainder of this year? It's just a thought. Would be better than what Kelly has shown this year

I'd say he will go to the Panthers early if he does leave.

If we were going to go for a mid season half signing i'd go for Gower lol. Not that it would happen.

 

[Ratchy]

Yep plenty of Porsches but no one to drive them - I reckon they would be a better side if they signed Sam Williams rather then izzy.

Maybe Izzy should ask Josh Morris and Inu how much quality they get not to mention it would mean Inu would have to change sides to the left.

 

[I bleed blue & gold]

Who would the Dragons play at 6?? Soward is their only playmaker at the moment. Maybe they would go with Drinkwater.

 

[Ratchy]

Where would Collis even play with us?

Wenty hopefully