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Rumoured Targets 3

slotmachine

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Other players like him will come along.

We won't see another Dom at the knights for 20 years, if ever.

Whoever plays right wing next year will be lucky to score 10 tries the way our attack is structured, while you could chuck me on the left wing and I'd finish half the tries Greg does.
 

Knight Tales

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Dom is on the verge of becoming the greatest winger of the modern era. He is irreplaceable. His work rate, power,
Height and speed are god given. It is not all about try scoring. The money Euro Rugby will inevitably throw at him will Likely see him become a dual international.
 
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Woody90

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Oh Jeez, massive overreaction IMO. Nobody is saying that Dom won’t be hard to replace, but he’s certainly not irreplaceable. Dom’s not even the best Winger we’ve had at the Knights, let alone the greatest in the modern era. I also have no doubt that if Dom didn’t look the way he did, the hysteria around him leaving would be a lot less.

We’re all very disappointed he’s leaving, but to imply that it’s going to cripple the side or we’ll never find a replacement that is at least capable is ridiculous. Hell, we had Marzhew fall into our laps as a swap deal for Chris f**king Randall. Someone will come available. No they probably won’t tick as many boxes at Dom, but finding someone capable to getting the job done on the end of our backline next to one of the most experienced centres in the game is definitely possible.
 

Woody90

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We won't see another Dom at the knights for 20 years, if ever.

Whoever plays right wing next year will be lucky to score 10 tries the way our attack is structured, while you could chuck me on the left wing and I'd finish half the tries Greg does.

Doesn’t give Marzhew enough credit IMO. The runs he takes to start our sets are usually more effective than the forwards.
 

Yosh

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Dom's good but he isn't Sua'ali'i good nor Inglis or Folau good. Dom is a huge loss but wingers are the easiest to replace. Dom will be hurting more than us when we become a top 4 side while the Roosters remain a bottom tier side next year.
 

Woosh

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Dom's good but he isn't Sua'ali'i good nor Inglis or Folau good. Dom is a huge loss but wingers are the easiest to replace. Dom will be hurting more than us when we become a top 4 side while the Roosters remain a bottom tier side next year.

Sua’ali’i is overrated.
Be interesting to see what the Storm do with their backline next year.
Faalogo is too good to be playing reserves.
I don’t really see him as a centre so he will be fighting for a wing spot with Coates and Warbrick. Unless they shift Coates to centre.
 

HarVeeGee

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Suaalii is a better winger than Dom. Better defender, better aerial weapon, better in yardage at the starts of sets. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the Roosters have turned their season around since they put him back on the wing where he belongs.

Neither is within cooee of Folau and Inglis though, or Latrell when he burst onto the scene for that matter, and to say otherwise shows how short the memories of the average league fan are.
 

Woosh

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Suaalii is a better winger than Dom. Better defender, better aerial weapon, better in yardage at the starts of sets. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the Roosters have turned their season around since they put him back on the wing where he belongs.

Neither is within cooee of Folau and Inglis though, or Latrell when he burst onto the scene for that matter, and to say otherwise shows how short the memories of the average league fan are.
On par with each other as wingers.
Young can score the 100m tries. Sua'ali'i has it over him in the air. Yardage and defense same same really. Though Young is more prone to handling errors.

Sua'ali'i on 700k+ makes him overrated.
He failed to make an impact playing centre and I don’t think he has the hands for fullback.
I would be happy to pay him 500k to play wing though.
 

Woody90

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Yeah I’d have have Suaallii and Dom pretty close. Suaallii definitely overrated given the Rugby perusal and salary so you’d take Dom in your side.

Saying that though, this is the Roosters, and with all of their additional benefits, who the f**k knows what either of them are actually on.

Either way I’d pick them both on the wing over Topou, but can’t see the Roosters dropping a club legend until he retires. Either way one of them will need to play out of position. I know Dom wants to pay centre and that’s been promised by Robbo, but tbh I just can’t see him working there. His natural size and attributes are all suited to the wing.
 

HarVeeGee

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I’m betting on Suaalii being shipped off to rugby a year early.

And yeah he’s good but definitely hasn’t lived up to the hype. People were calling him the greatest prospect ever. There’s at least ten currently active players who made their debut young and were obviously more impressive in their first 30-40 games, and a bunch more who were at least comparable.

Just off the top of my head: Ponga, Haas, D Fifita, Grant, Murray, Mitchell, Manu, S Walker, Nanai, Walsh, Mam, S Johnson, T Trbjoevic. All much more impressive early careers. Then a whole bunch at least comparable: Best, Cobbo, Taulagi, Young, Staggs, Penisini… I could go on.
 
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macavity

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Sua’ali’i is overrated.
Be interesting to see what the Storm do with their backline next year.
Faalogo is too good to be playing reserves.
I don’t really see him as a centre so he will be fighting for a wing spot with Coates and Warbrick. Unless they shift Coates to centre.

Have only seen him play one game but looks like an out and out fullback to me.

womder if Meaney would comeback. Probably doesn’t suit our yardage game though.
 

aqua_duck

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I think people are being overly harsh on Suualii, he was Dally M winger of the year as an 18 year old and helped Samoa get to the World Cup final.
 

aqua_duck

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I’m betting on Suaalii being shipped off to rugby a year early.

And yeah he’s good but definitely hasn’t lived up to the hype. People were calling him the greatest prospect ever. There’s at least ten currently active players who made their debut young and were obviously more impressive in their first 30-40 games, and a bunch more who were at least comparable.

Just off the top of my head: Ponga, Haas, D Fifita, Grant, Murray, Mitchell, Manu, S Walker, Nanai, Walsh, Mam, S Johnson, T Trbjoevic. All much more impressive early careers. Then a whole bunch at least comparable: Best, Cobbo, Taulagi, Young, Staggs, Penisini… I could go on.
suualii just turned 20, at the same age Grant, Manu, Johnson, and Taulagi had yet to even play first grade, Young, Best, Staggs, and Murray weren’t established first graders.
 

HarVeeGee

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suualii just turned 20, at the same age Grant, Manu, Johnson, and Taulagi had yet to even play first grade, Young, Best, Staggs, and Murray weren’t established first graders.
Bradman has been our first choice left centre since 2020. He turned 19 in August of that year & we tried to get him an exemption to debut at 17 like Suaalii got but got knocked back because different rules for the Chooks vs everyone else. Very close to being an exact 1 for 1 comparison between those 2, and Bradman but for injuries has been a better player. Has won us a few games almost single-handedly.

The others?

Joey Manu made his debut at 19 and was an established first grader at 20. Same also for Dom Young, Kotoni Staggs, and also Cam Murray. Murray as a middle forward making a debut that young is more impressive than doing it at 17/18 as a winger, props and locks tend to debut older.

Johnson was 20. Also, he plays halfback. A little harder to be good at as a teen.

Harry Grant getting a real crack at an older age may have had something to do with being stuck behind the best player in his position to ever play the game. But he was 20 on first grade debut.

The key point here though is that there was all this hype around Suaalii and while he’s a really good winger, there’s very much an “is this it?” reaction, particularly given how he was actually pretty bad at centre. We were told to expect the next Inglis and so far we’ve seen a rich man’s Daniel Tupou.
Have only seen him play one game but looks like an out and out fullback to me.

womder if Meaney would comeback. Probably doesn’t suit our yardage game though.
He can make metres from fullback but his ball playing and positional awareness haven’t been up to snuff to play centre at NRL level, no one would pick him week to week at fullback in first grade.
 

aqua_duck

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Bradman has been our first choice left centre since 2020. He turned 19 in August of that year & we tried to get him an exemption to debut at 17 like Suaalii got but got knocked back because different rules for the Chooks vs everyone else. Very close to being an exact 1 for 1 comparison between those 2, and Bradman but for injuries has been a better player. Has won us a few games almost single-handedly.

The others?

Joey Manu made his debut at 19 and was an established first grader at 20. Same also for Dom Young, Kotoni Staggs, and also Cam Murray. Murray as a middle forward making a debut that young is more impressive than doing it at 17/18 as a winger, props and locks tend to debut older.

Johnson was 20. Also, he plays halfback. A little harder to be good at as a teen.

Harry Grant getting a real crack at an older age may have had something to do with being stuck behind the best player in his position to ever play the game. But he was 20 on first grade debut.

The key point here though is that there was all this hype around Suaalii and while he’s a really good winger, there’s very much an “is this it?” reaction, particularly given how he was actually pretty bad at centre. We were told to expect the next Inglis and so far we’ve seen a rich man’s Daniel Tupou.

He can make metres from fullback but his ball playing and positional awareness haven’t been up to snuff to play centre at NRL level, no one would pick him week to week at fullback in first grade.
Suualii was dally M winger of the year last year when he was 18 for most of that year, would’ve played for Australia at the World Cup but chose to play for Samoa and helped them make the final paying fullback, he didnt set the world on fire this year but the reality is no one at the roosters did, bit like Best wasn’t very good last year, I mean a lot of us were questioning Best’s long term future and lamenting his contract 4 or 5 months ago
Manu did make his debut a week before his 20th birthday but only played 3 games that year, when Staggs and Murray were the same age as Suualii is now they were both coming off the bench so it’s abit of revisionist history there.
I think people have unrealistic expectations of Suualii, no 18-19 year old can come in and be a dominant fullback especially when they’re not given the opportunity to play there regularly.
 

ryan.a87

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From Brent Reid, so take with a grain of salt, but the foxx is apparently seeking an early release….would be a handy replacement for Dom if we can afford him
 
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