Rumoured Targets 3

[Old dog]

Not saying I want him but Gagai will likely sign for less than 700k as he heads to his final few seasons. We are tied to players already signed meaning we can’t fit/afford some available, I would like Reynolds but we resigned Pearce, Gagai would be ok but we have Schibs signed for next year and probably extend/increase Best.
We are in a situation of make do with what we have or cut players over the next season or two to fit in new ones who have to be available

 

[Spot On]

The 'great divide' between the clubs and their performance is the great debate atm.

Signing Pearce at a million and a winger at 700K keeps the great divide alive and well.

Gagai has been on huge overs for years as has Pearce. We don't need to have the wool continually pulled over eyes.

 

[Woosh]

Yet Souths have built the best team in the competition with the most overpaid player in the NRL.
It would good to see him back at Newcastle

 

[perverse]

Oh man... them feels when you finally get your fix of Spot having a cry about Pearce...

 

[perverse]

In all seriousness though, Gagai would be great to have back at the right price. Obviously that's nowhere near his asking price. If he wants to come back, that gives us some leverage - but I daresay some desperate club will lure him for overs.

Weird how Souths didn't fall apart after paying him so much money, though. I was reliably informed that it would be roster suicide for them.

 

[slotmachine]

Highly wary of gagai's form at the end of last season and currently. While trying to get a new contract.

If you could get him on rolling 12 month deals he'd have to bring that origin effort every game.

 

[Yosh]

What's a good price for Gagai or someone like him these days. If he came for 2 seasons at 500k a year, would that be a good deal?

The experience will help a ton but I dont want an overpaid veteran taking up a spot someone like Dom Young might fulfill in a couple of months time.

 

[Apey]

I'd never want to see Gagai back here unless it was serious unders.

 

[aqua_duck]

In all seriousness though, Gagai would be great to have back at the right price. Obviously that's nowhere near his asking price. If he wants to come back, that gives us some leverage - but I daresay some desperate club will lure him for overs.

Weird how Souths didn't fall apart after paying him so much money, though. I was reliably informed that it would be roster suicide for them.

I mean it helps when you can 'medically retire' your overpaid broken down players to ease salary cap stress......

 

[Woosh]

I mean it helps when you can 'medically retire' your overpaid broken down players to ease salary cap stress......

Yet they managed to sign up at Mitchell and Arrow as replacements.

 

[aqua_duck]

Gagai will be 31 by the time the season starts next year, not sure how many outside backs excel at that age. In my opinion given our injury curse we'd be better off building depth rather than splurging on big names.

 

[aqua_duck]

Yet they managed to sign up at Mitchell and Arrow as replacements.

And if it wasn't for the NRL favourable treatment they wouldn't have been able to get those guys who are on alot less than Inglis and Burgess who were on big, back heavy deals.

 

[perverse]

Gagai will be 31 by the time the season starts next year, not sure how many outside backs excel at that age. In my opinion given our injury curse we'd be better off building depth rather than splurging on big names.

I didn't say anything about splurging. I'd offer him Eddies money plus maybe a bit of sweetener on top, but I certainly wouldn't go near his asking price. Perfectly happy for him to chase dollars elsewhere, but if he wants to be here, it can't hurt to throw him a bone and say take it or leave it.

We need better than depth. We're short a legitimate centre or a winger. I don't have much faith in Shibasaki or Tuala anymore. Shibs not even for depth, Tuala could be good depth.

 

[Woosh]

And if it wasn't for the NRL favourable treatment they wouldn't have been able to get those guys who are on alot less than Inglis and Burgess who were on big, back heavy deals.

You’re also forgetting the big upgrades for Cook, Walker and Murray during Gagai’s time at Souths.
But according to Spot On.. signing Gagai on so much money would set Souths back 10 years.

 

[aqua_duck]

You’re also forgetting the big upgrades for Cook, Walker and Murray during Gagai’s time at Souths.
But according to Spot On.. signing Gagai on so much money would set Souths back 10 years.

Mate the NRL salary cap is $9 million, one player being overpaid by 50 or 100k obviously isn't going to break a salary cap but would they have been able to sign and re-sign those players if they had Gagai on $700k, GI and Burgess on over $1 mil and Jimmy the Jet on $500k?
If you look across the league most teams have at least 1 or 2 players on abit more than they perhaps deserve.

 

[aqua_duck]

I didn't say anything about splurging. I'd offer him Eddies money plus maybe a bit of sweetener on top, but I certainly wouldn't go near his asking price. Perfectly happy for him to chase dollars elsewhere, but if he wants to be here, it can't hurt to throw him a bone and say take it or leave it.

We need better than depth. We're short a legitimate centre or a winger. I don't have much faith in Shibasaki or Tuala anymore. Shibs not even for depth, Tuala could be good depth.

We need a lot of things but if we had some depth Tuala wouldn't be an automatic starter and Shibasaki wouldn't be 1st cab off the rank.

 

[aqua_duck]

And for what it's worth are we forgetting that Gagai is literally the bloke that has memes about how he only performs in a maroon jersey? I mean he has some good moments as most players do in a good side but he still has the same deficiencies he always had.

 

[perverse]

We need a lot of things but if we had some depth Tuala wouldn't be an automatic starter and Shibasaki wouldn't be 1st cab off the rank.

Don't really agree, I just think we need to recruit over Tuala, not under. I think we see the same problem, though. It's a shame Young isn't a couple of years older, but who knows what he turns into at this stage. I think he's still a whiles off yet.

You seem to still be reacting like I want to sign Gagai for market price. I think if you've got a shot at getting a guy on unders on your terms, you at least float it. The Roosters with the Morris twins springs immediately to mind - but the top teams do it frequently (and no doubt they have certain brown paper... advantages... that we don't too). If he says no to a favourable deal for us, that's fine - he can f**k off and bleed someone elses cap. He'd improve the team as it stands today. If there's other options available, I'm open to them - but I'd stipulate that I do think they need to be an upgrade on what we have. If you don't agree with that, then we won't agree on anything regarding the topic really, and that's cool. I'm not going to sit here and claim there's an obvious, clear cut answer to the roster.

 

[aqua_duck]

Don't really agree, I just think we need to recruit over Tuala, not under. I think we see the same problem, though. It's a shame Young isn't a couple of years older, but who knows what he turns into at this stage. I think he's still a whiles off yet.

You seem to still be reacting like I want to sign Gagai for market price. I think if you've got a shot at getting a guy on unders on your terms, you at least float it. The Roosters with the Morris twins springs immediately to mind - but the top teams do it frequently (and no doubt they have certain brown paper... advantages... that we don't too). If he says no to a favourable deal for us, that's fine - he can f**k off and bleed someone elses cap. He'd improve the team as it stands today. If there's other options available, I'm open to them - but I'd stipulate that I do think they need to be an upgrade on what we have. If you don't agree with that, then we won't agree on anything regarding the topic really, and that's cool.

I'm not for a second suggesting we recruit under Tuala hence why I said if we had decent depth Tuala would not be an automatic starter.
The thing is if Gagai thinks he's worth $700k we're not getting him for $350k, he's had enough good origin games where some dumb team like the cowboys will give him $500-600k.

 

[Woosh]

And for what it's worth are we forgetting that Gagai is literally the bloke that has memes about how he only performs in a maroon jersey? I mean he has some good moments as most players do in a good side but he still has the same deficiencies he always had.

Over at the Souths forum, they want to keep him over Reynolds and Su’a.
He must be doing something right.