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Woody90 · Tuesday at 2:21 PM

I can’t see him being here past next season anyway as I say he’ll go to Sydney to be with Millie.

Knight Tales · Tuesday at 2:27 PM

Woody90 said:
I can’t see him being here past next season anyway as I say he’ll go to Sydney to be with Millie.

To the roosters?

Dr Dr Gimedanews · Tuesday at 3:02 PM

SamSepi0l said:
You said which top 4 team could he be in. Don't move the posts. That type of analsyis is useless for the reasons I gave.

As for in his position, I think he is value. He is on pretty low money for a veteran and is middle of the pack at worst.

Top 4 is always the aim. He's in an increasingly important position.

By your judgment he is value so will definitely be re-signed . Let's see shall we.

Burwood · Tuesday at 3:34 PM

There’s only three ways you can have value players like Lucas at your club:
1) a player has a breakout season
2) you are such a successful club that players will take unders to play there
3) brown paper bags

Lucas fits into category 1. As options 2 and 3 don’t really fit our club, the second his manager works out he’s not earning his true value, the club will need to renew his contract, or he’ll be agitating behind the scenes for an early release.

I also don’t see us as needing to invest more in our spine. Ponga, Hastings and Brailey are all on huge money- it’s just a case that two of those guys are terrible value.

Rod · Tuesday at 5:02 PM

I think what some people also forget is that with the salary cap going up, 450-500k really isn't that much. If every guy in the top 30 made the same they would get 375k. So Elliott getting 100k on top of an average top 30 salary is perfectly normal.

We have much bigger cap issues than him, especially when he turns up every week, doesn't really get injured (touchwood) and has a go at the very least.

Knight Tales · Tuesday at 5:07 PM

Nuke · 2024-07-03T01:24:56+1000

Is it just me and my 11pm eyes / judgement, but does the right leg of Ponga in that photo look all distorted? Just below the shorts of that grounded leg, that leg seems to zig zag and go in weird angles.

Years ago while I was a sports trainer of my club, a player broke his forearm in two places and made a horrible 'S' shape. The leg in this photo of KP kinda reminds me of that.

Apologies for the off-topic post!

kaynine · 2024-07-03T16:59:22+1000

how the hell are we having salary cap issues when 70% of our players are average or below

Knight Tales · 2024-07-03T17:47:58+1000

kaynine said:
how the hell are we having salary cap issues when 70% of our players are average or below

Pretty much our story since day one mate. The constant fear this club lives with regarding losing players that basically only play well when their contract is up for renewal, has never been addressed properly.

Dr Dr Gimedanews · 2024-07-03T18:18:25+1000

kaynine said:
how the hell are we having salary cap issues when 70% of our players are average or below

reading the last 2 pages of this thread apparently many fans are ok with it.

Knight Tales · 2024-07-03T18:33:05+1000

Dr Dr Gimedanews said:
reading the last 2 pages of this thread apparently many fans are ok with it.

No one said anyone was ok with it. It is the fact you cannot just recruit a roster where everyone is top quality across the park. It is fantasy BS. I’d like to know how you actually think this is feasible option for this club. Please explain how we do it.

ryan.a87 · 2024-07-03T18:35:48+1000

Random people on twitter saying Hynes is unhappy at sharks facilities and toxic fans

Would sign him in a heart beat if they get rid of the players mentioned during the week

Yosh · 2024-07-03T18:37:58+1000

ryan.a87 said:
Random people on twitter saying Hynes is unhappy at sharks facilities and toxic fans

Would sign him in a heart beat if they get rid of the players mentioned during the week

Isn't he another local junior?

Woody90 · 2024-07-03T18:38:45+1000

Dr Dr Gimedanews said:
reading the last 2 pages of this thread apparently many fans are ok with it.

No, you spent 2 pages complaining that one of the few players in the pack that isn’t actually screwing our salary cap is a major issue.

Woody90 · 2024-07-03T18:41:15+1000

ryan.a87 said:
Random people on twitter saying Hynes is unhappy at sharks facilities and toxic fans

Would sign him in a heart beat if they get rid of the players mentioned during the week

Would obviously 100% take him over our current halves. Hynes is a funny one though. When his side is going well he’s one of the most talented halves in the comp, but his tendency to crack under pressure is Mullo-esque.

Still though of course I’d take him (not that it would ever happen).

Woody90 · 2024-07-03T18:42:35+1000

Nuke said:
Is it just me and my 11pm eyes / judgement, but does the right leg of Ponga in that photo look all distorted? Just below the shorts of that grounded leg, that leg seems to zig zag and go in weird angles.

Years ago while I was a sports trainer of my club, a player broke his forearm in two places and made a horrible 'S' shape. The leg in this photo of KP kinda reminds me of that.

Apologies for the off-topic post!

Saw this too. Looks really weird haha

Dr Dr Gimedanews · 2024-07-03T18:51:04+1000

Knight Tales said:
No one said anyone was ok with it. It is the fact you cannot just recruit a roster where everyone is top quality across the park. It is fantasy BS. I’d like to know how you actually think this is feasible option for this club. Please explain how we do it.

Gus Gould is doing it with the Dogs in quick time. It's not fantasy, it's basic business sense.

As an example in basic terms - If a player is on the average salary for their relative position in the roster, they need to be AT LEAST providing the club with consistent stats that place them in the average for that position - above those stats and the club is winning - below those stats and you lose.

The more players performing above their pay grade the more successful the club

Unless of course your the Roosters and the cap does not apply.

Dr Dr Gimedanews · 2024-07-03T18:51:42+1000

Woody90 said:
No, you spent 2 pages complaining that one of the few players in the pack that isn’t actually screwing our salary cap is a major issue.

then he will be resigned in a heart beat wont he hey. Let's see buddy.

Woody90 · 2024-07-03T18:56:12+1000

Dr Dr Gimedanews said:
then he will be resigned in a heart beat wont he hey. Let's see buddy.

I literally said up thread Elliott likely won’t be here after his next contract anyway. His wife’s moved to Sydney since he signed here.

macavity · 2024-07-03T18:56:18+1000

Dr Dr Gimedanews said:
Gus Gould is doing it with the Dogs in quick time. It's not fantasy, it's basic business sense.

As an example in basic terms - If a player is on the average salary for their relative position in the roster, they need to be AT LEAST providing the club with consistent stats that place them in the average for that position - above those stats and the club is winning - below those stats and you lose.

The more players performing above their pay grade the more successful the club

Unless of course your the Roosters and the cap does not apply.

Value over replacement player - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Like most stats, Baseball has exactly this. VORP (or WARP).

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